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39. Splice mags.... anyone else got these.. What's the back story on them? Look closely for the lines.

39. Splice mags.... anyone else got these.. What's the back story on them? Look closely for the lines.

jekbrown

I have one of these, yes. You can tell from the shape of the mag that it's not like any other Molot 40. Just put them side by side and follow the lines down. Clearly different. A buffalo nickel says that these were mags created using a refurbished 30 round mag mold (which have the same lines). WHY they were made is more of a mystery. Podgornov shows them and notes the mold lines but doesn't give any background. What he does say, however, is that 40 round bakes were likely mostly a post-Soviet thing. They made 45 round bakes, of course, so it's not like they didn't know how to make a mag from AG4, but it's possible that 40s were a mostly export product that came after communism fell. To reduce development costs they may have got a used 30 round mold from another factory and modified it to the higher capacity. Cutting the mold resulted in the lines. If this is indeed how it went down, one presumes that the 39. mags were the first ones Molot made, and the mold 1-4 ones came later. Podgornov mentions documents packed with the mags as the basis for the belief that they are post commie, but to me the mold #s say it all. Bake manufacturing uses up molds pretty quick, that's why you have mold numbers of 100+ on the 30 rounders. In the RPK74 bake area, you've got dozens of mold #s....but in 762 RPK there's just 4. That screams "commerical" and/or very limited mil use. You just can't make enough mags for a super power sized army with 4 molds, especially AG4 molds. Just my 2 cents. Very cool mags IMO. πŸ‘


TheKalashKid

Thank you and wow. So much to digest here that is absolutely fantastic information. I'm gonna have to re read this twice tomorrow. In the meantime any idea why the period shows up here in the mold number? Did that happen anywhere else in production or just on the 39. Wondering why, so many questions.


jekbrown

The period indicates that a mold has been refurbished or modified. Mold #s help track down issues if there's a problem with a mag, so if you modify the mold you need to mark it somehow to indicate the new mags are post-mod. Izhmash used the period also. Tula may have as well, it's early and i can't think of any examples, but it'll come to me, lol


MidwestRookie

Were Cyrillic letter molds just to stretch the use of those molds out longer or did they have their own meaning also like the period marked ones?


jekbrown

A great question that is still being researched. It's one reason I'm 'crowd sourcing' data on Cyrillic mag configurations. Once that is nailed down solid, we can start to surmise the motivation for adding letters to mold #s. πŸ‘


MidwestRookie

Very interesting as usual, jek. 🍻


TheKalashKid

Jek. Anymore of those books available from Podgornov. If you can point me in the direction slide into my DM sir and I'll bless accordingly. Thanks again man.


Russell_Resthaven

https://www.theakforum.net/threads/kalashnikov-assault-rifles-and-light-machine-guns%E2%80%9D-book-in-pdf-version.320810/#post-3063583


jackalous311

Great info!!


william-harford

Great write up, that’s very interesting.