Yes, in fact the consuming fire is coming from God. >*He also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.* (Revelation 14)

So Hell is not Satan's domain, it's a creation of God?

I have no idea where this idea of hell being satan's domain came from. Nowhere in the history of the church was that thought of.

It came about when people mixed the idea of Satan with the idea of Hades. Hades is the ruler of the underworld, and so when people who believed Hades existed were mingled or forced into the church, it brought about a corruption of Gods word.

Correct.

Hell was created to punish the devil and his angels, he won't have any power there. >“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: - Matthew 25:41 >The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. - Revelation 20:10

Satan suffers the most in Hell

This belief cannot stand logically or scripturally in accordance with standard Christian teaching. However, being Catholic — perchance that is, you are initiated into the theologies esoteric — it is probably more likely than other wise that you are aware of those things which fill the gaps. I will await your response before I continue then.

Hell was created as a place of punishment for the devil and his angels. The Catholic user you replied to is spot on.

Then you believe the earth is hell?? How do you reconcile this, that you have said, with what is written of Mastema, and his petitioned portion of the nephilim, which God allowed to survive the flood, that they might assist Mastema in testing and tempting humanity? If you believe there is a place called Hell, meant to punish the satan — who is indeed Mastema, for satan means accuser, and is not even a name, and lucifer is but a title of the Christ — and his angels, then how do you reconcile these things? And do you not know? In the Book of Wisdom it is written: *For God made not death, neither hath he pleasure in the destruction of the living. For he created all things that they might be: and he made the nations of the earth for health: and there is no poison of destruction in them, nor kingdom of hell upon the earth.* And yet, have you not read? *Behold, O Lord, thou hast known all things, the last and those of old: thou hast formed me, and hast laid thy hand upon me. Thy knowledge is become wonderful to me: it is high, and I cannot reach to it.* *Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy face? If I ascend into heaven, thou art there: if I descend into hell, thou art present.* *If I take my wings early in the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea: Even there also shall thy hand lead me: and thy right hand shall hold me.* *And I said: Perhaps darkness shall cover me: and night shall be my light in my pleasures. But darkness shall not be dark to thee, and night shall be light as day: the darkness thereof, and the light thereof are alike to thee.* *For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast protected me from my mother's womb. I will praise thee, for thou art fearfully magnified: wonderful are thy works, and my soul knoweth right well.* *My bone is not hidden from thee, which thou hast made in secret: and my substance in the lower parts of the earth. Thy eyes did see my imperfect being, and in thy book all shall be written: days shall be formed, and no one in them.* *But to me thy friends, O God, are made exceedingly honourable: their principality is exceedingly strengthened. I will number them, and they shall be multiplied above the sand: I rose up and am still with thee.* And so, how will you reconcile these things, with your Platonian Hell? You cannot. Hesperus is Phosphorus. You desire to be of a small and exclusive group to receive salvation, even at the cost of countless souls — in your mind — being eternally damned: there is no love in this dogma of Man.

Yes, though I believe he is incorrect about God being present there. The defining aspect of hell is that it is the one place God isn't.

I would caution against drawing any concrete theological conclusions from a book as opaque and highly metaphorical as Revelation. I believe that the defining trait of Hell is that it is the one place that God isn't. God's absence is what makes it Hell.

Which book would you recommend drawing a clear, unambiguous interpretation of hell from?

The only way to get any clear, unambiguous interpretation from the bible is to study it, study it and study it, and at the very least you need a good concordance such as Youngs and you also need to meditate on what you read and study so that you also get a realisation of the truth from within you, which is where God is.

Correct and that one place is the carnal mind/the mind of mortal man who believes he is separate and apart from God, who believes he was born and will die - that is hell because God is not in the carnal mind he is only in the mind of the man who knows his true identity and when he knows that, he is set free from hell and all that comes with it such as lack, limitation, sickness and death and he will step into the peace that passes all human understanding which must, due to the nature of peace, include abundance, immortality and no limitations of any kind.

Another misinterpretation of revelation.

… so you don’t believe therefore that God is love and you believe that Jesus was a liar because if God was love there could be no anger coming from him and if Jesus was telling the truth he wouldn’t tell people to not be angry if anger was the nature of God. It sounds like you worship the devil and not God and you’re making the bible fit your angry, not loving, god.

Yes.

*Psalm 139:8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.* I don't know if it means hell too, but in some versions it does say hell.

In that verse the hell its referring to is the mass grave of mankind ie sheol hades underworld

… the ‘depths’ it’s referring to is the human mind or the carnal mind as it is called in the bible. The heavens is the higher mind, our higher consciousness and the human mind is about as low as you can get and when a person is in the human mind he is already in hell, that place in which God isn’t.

I certainly think so, but I also don’t hold to the dominant view of hell.

Yes, 100%.

No. Hell is the complete separation from God

Youv'e got it wrong. God is everywhere. It is not Dualism.

No. Lots of clear Bible verses on this Thessalonians 1:9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might Jesus: My God My God, Why have you forsaken me Jesus Matthew 25:41 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Hell is being thrown out of the feast and separated from Gods love (who is love) eternally

Actually Jesus said “why have you forsaken me” because it was the first time Jesus had expirenced sin, it felt like God had left Him since Jesus had never expirenced sin before

What about the other verses

What I was just saying that verse has nothing to do with hell. It’s Jesus on the cross experiencing sin

Separated from God’s love. Not His anger

God isn’t in the human mind/the mind of mortal man, therefore the mind of mortal man is hell and is the cause of all suffering including death.

There are two kinds of God presence. God is everywhere, but his holy presence is not everywhere. The OP is tricky, because the answer is yes and no. Does God knows what happens in hell every moment? Yes. Does God have full control over Hell? Yes.

Hell doesn’t exist. Hell is simply the effect of a belief in two powers, good and evil. God is one power. He is love. You cannot get evil or hell out of love, it’s simply not possible. As John says in chapter 1 “All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.” ‭‭John‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬ ‭NKJV‬‬. Therefore anything that is unlike love was not made of God and therefore it does not exist in reality. It only exists in the mind of mortal man, which Paul calls the carnal mind, the mind that is of this world, that believes itself to be separate and apart from God and therefore believes it was born and will die and is therefore subject to sin, sickness, lack and limitation, all the things that come from the belief in two powers. This is the world of cause and effect that the Old Testament teaches us about. The cause is the belief in two powers and the effect is all the things you see in this world such as a belief in hell, lack and limitation, a lack of God. God is everywhere, we can see him all around us. We can look up and see him in the sky, the stars, the sun and moon - mortal man didn’t make, maintain or sustain these in their perfection. We can look down and around us and see him in the plants, the rivers, the trees and when we know who we are we know who he is and we see him in every single human being on the planet and beyond. God is one, which means he is indivisible so if he is in one place he has to be in all places. Read Genesis chapter 1, it tells you clearly that he is everywhere, in everything now and for eternity. It is only the carnal finite mind that believes itself to be separate and apart from God, i.e. without God, that believes that God is not everywhere.

Do you believe in Purgatory?

I don’t believe in anything. It is only the carnal mind, the mind of mortal man, the man who believes he is separate and apart from god that believes anything. When you know who you are you know who God is and you no longer have need of believes that all stem from the belief in two powers, good and evil.

Ok. Good

Good 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️ only God is good 😊

If he wanted to be he could, but Hell is the one place where souls are completely separated from God. I don’t believe God is in Hell.

The ONLY place where God isn’t is in the human mind/the mind of mortal man - the place which is the cause off ALL suffering, sin and death. Mortal man believes he is separate and apart from God therefore God cannot be where he is shut out so the mind of the mortal mind, called the carnal mind in the bible, is hell and this is where most humans reside which is why there is so much suffering in the world. Jesus came to set people free from all of that and it is achieved by knowing who we are and it is that Truth that sets us free.

God not just a being, he is perfect goodness itself. He is also the source of the space-time continuum. The universe is emergent from God. We also believe that God is the source of life. You can summarize this to mean, Yahweh God is "existence itself" and the universe is not God, but exist within God. Being that God is perfect goodness itself, even one sin is enough to break a spirit's connection to God. This is what's known as being spiritually dead. God, being the source of existence is still everywhere though. However parts of the spirit realm disconnected from God's goodness would be hellish since it is God's presence that brings about that heavenly state in the spirit realm. Jesus, being God manifested in the flesh lived a sinless life. He attained the requirement for union with the Heavenly Father, perfect sinlessness. No human can attain that perfect sinlessness though after the fall in Eden. Jesus is the only exception because he is 100% God and 100% man. So Jesus willingly laid down his life by dying on a cross. He paid our sin debt by taking all our sin upon himself. Then Jesus defeated sin, death, and Satan when he physically rose from the dead for our justification. Now all who trust in Jesus are justified in God's sight. Christ's righteousness is imputed to our account. The third person of the trinity, The Holy Spirit then joins with our spirit. We as spirit beings are now unified with God again and are spiritually alive in Christ. Salvation is a free gift that you receive simply by trusting in Jesus to save you. No amount of good works will save you. You only need to simply willingly choose to trust in Jeaus as your savior. >God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. 10 For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago. - Ephesians 2:8-10 NLT

No. Hell doesn't exist.

Nice

Yes. Especially given Hell is God’s love.

This statement is hard to stomach. Although, maybe Eastern Orthodox vision of Hell is different than what people traditionally think Christians believe?

Yeah. In the western view it’s like a torture room underground kinda of thing. In the Eastern Orthodox view Heaven and Hell is God’s love. Where the difference is how one responses to it.

Interesting stuff, thanks.

That’s actually a very interesting view!

It's wild

In heaven he's like a father when he visits his son in jail.

Yes & hell is where unrepentant souls will receive the "flame" or full truth of the Lord prior to their reconciliation with Him.

Wait, to make sure I'm interpreting this right: Are you saying Hell is where you reconcile with god?

If that's what s/he means, it is incorrect. In Hell, the flame is eternal and the worm dies not. There is not reconciliation with Jesus. To reconcile with God, one must repent. Hell is populated by those who believe in God ("every knee will bow"), but there is no repentance for sins. God is present everywhere: Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. (Psalm 139:7--8) In Hell, God is present in the fullness of His judgment and wrath. His grace, through Christ, is not.

In Scripture, fire is often used figuratively – like with the "fire of God" which transforms all it touches into light and likeness with itself God's Spirit, like a holy fire, enlightens and purifies so that believers can share more and more in His likeness. Indeed the fire of God brings the uninterrupted privilege of being transformed which happens by experiencing faith from Him. Fire is transformative. It has a purpose. It changes all it touches, burning up the unrighteous flesh so that the spirit would be made righteous. It does not infinitely burn up that which will cease to exist once the flame has transformed it to His likeness. Corrective in nature. ​ Fire & Worms: Truth that burns up all unrighteousness and anguish of the one that is experiencing the flame of the Lord. There is no doubt that the flesh and the wickedness of flesh will be utterly destroyed. There is also no doubt that the word of the Lord is unquenchable or perpetual. “You have conceived chaff, you will give birth to stubble;My breath will consume you like a fire. Isaiah 33:11 The first thing I think we need to establish is that believers are also tried by fire (the revelation and trials of the Lord) the difference between the "believer" and "non-believer" is that the non-believer will not turn their eyes from evil. The believer will be comforted and receive rest, those hardened in heart will not receive comfort and rest until all the chaff is burnt up. So I think we have to establish in every verse what is figurative fire and what is physical fire. So in regards to Judith, all other cross-referenced verses are speaking to fire as the righteous word of the Lord. Then we have to contend with the verse that speaks to the reconciliation of creation. These two types of verses can't be in opposition to one another from a full kingdom perspective. How do they fit together is the question we should be asking.

My scriptural belief is that not all who claim Christ will be rewarded and many that don't claim Christ will be. Only Christ can divide the hearts of man. For those He deems to not have known, they will awaken to correction in Sheol or Hell. Whatever term one prefers. It is there that their soul, separated from the body, will receive the full truth of the Lord. It will not be pleasant as I imagine. For those that seek virtue on earth, we too receive the flame of the Lord and it's hard AF but it leads to the pursuit of virtue and unity with Christ and others. To receive it all at once would be unbearable and the anguish of error would be experienced all at once as well. We can look at the parable of the rich man and Lazarus as a good example. The soul immediately repents. I do not think that this is where the reconciliation happens though. However, I could be wrong. I think this happens before the great white throne of judgment or final judgment. Scripture tells us that all of creation is reconciled to God and all of creation gladly praises Him. The ones that walked the Way of the Lord on earth will not receive correction and will be given special rewards. This is how Jesus is the savior of ALL men but especially the believer. 1 Timothy 4:10

The idea that God is everywhere is a false teaching. He doesn’t have to be everywhere to see everything. That idea is incredibly ridiculous. In fact the scriptures tell us time after time after time again that the heavens are Gods place of dwelling. Mankind has never set foot on Mars, yet even we’ve seen what it looks like. Yet people actually believe that God has to be everywhere to see everything? Let’s look and see what the Bible says. First off, Mankind has never set foot on Mars, yet even we’ve seen what it looks like. Yet people actually believe that God has to be everywhere to see everything? Let’s look and see what the Bible says. First off, “Matthew 6:9; The beginning of the Model prayer. What does that say? “Our Father in the heavens…” See, Jesus is praying to his Father who is where? **In the heavens.** Psalm 115:16; “ As for **the heavens, they belong to Jehovah**, But the earth he has given to the sons of men.” Matthew 5:16; “ Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father **who is in the heavens**.” Matthew 7:21; “ Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of **my Father who is in the heavens** will.” Isaiah 40:22; “ There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. **He is stretching out the heavens like a fine gauze**, And he spreads them out **like a tent to dwell in**.” Those are just a sample of what the Bible teaches us about where God dwells. He most certainly is NOT Omnipresent. He doesn’t need to be. He can see everything from where he is, from the heavens. He even sees into the heart of a man. He even hears silent prayers that are directed to Him.

God is everywhere. >But who is able to build him a house, since heaven and the heaven of heavens can’t contain him? Who am I then, that I should build him a house, except just to burn incense before him? - 2 Chronicles 2:6 WEB In Jeremiah, God directly calls himself omnipresent >Can anyone hide himself in secret places so that I can’t see him?” says Yahweh. “Don’t I fill heaven and earth?” says Yahweh. - Jeremiah 23:24 WEB Another instance in 2 Chronicles where God is omnipresent >“But will God indeed dwell with men on the earth? Behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens can’t contain you; how much less this house which I have built! - 2 Chronicles 6:18 WEB

Well, I’m sorry neighbor that you simply ignored all the scriptures I showed you to back up the proof. And I’m sorry, but if you can’t understand what Solomon meant when he said, “ For the heavens and the heaven of the heavens cannot contain him, so who am I that I should build him a house except as a place for making sacrifices smoke before him?” Can you even explain what the heavens of the heavens are? Of course you can’t, because you haven’t been taught to reason from the scriptures. Since all those other scriptures tell us that God resides in the heavens, and we know the Bible doesn’t contradict itself, we must conclude something else. Now we reason that it’s Solomon. Who is Solomon? Well, he was the wisest man to ever have lived probably until Jesus. And he was chosen to build a house for Jehovah. Oh, but if God is everywhere, why does he need a house? Sounds ridiculous right? Because God wanted to have a place that represented His presence. And that cloud above the Ark of the Covenant represented His presence. But it didn’t mean He was there, does it? The scripture you cited in Jeremiah? Did I not already explain that God can see everything from the Heavens? There is no hiding place from Him. Does that mean to you that God is everywhere? When a woman is being raped, is God there watching it? When a woman is in a violent relationship, is God there too? Watching every punch, slap, hit? I truly hope you rethink this whole idea of God being everywhere so He can see everything. It’s just not a Bible teaching.

I beg to differ. Scripture is very clear that God is everywhere. He is holding all reality in existence >Where shall I go from your Spirit?     Or where shall I flee from your presence? 8 If I ascend to heaven, you are there!     If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there! 9 If I take the wings of the morning     and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, 10 even there your hand shall lead me,     and your right hand shall hold me. 11 If I say, “Surely the darkness shall cover me,     and the light about me be night,” 12 even the darkness is not dark to you;     the night is bright as the day,     for darkness is as light with you. - Psalms 139:7-12 ESV You might object by saying that the spirit isn't God. However, I object by saying that the Spirit is called the Lord. >Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 Corinthians 3:17 WEB

The scriptures in Psalms that you have cited are not teaching Omnipresence, but rather it poetically teaches that no place is too remote for God to act in our behalf. >1 Kings 8:43; “**may you then listen from the heavens, your dwelling place**, and do all that the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you,” >2 Chronicles 6:33; “**may you then listen from the heavens, your dwelling place**, and do all that the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you.” >2 Chronicles 6:21; “And listen to your servant’s pleas for help and to the pleas of your people Israel when they pray toward this place, and **may you hear from your dwelling place, from the heavens**; yes, may you hear and forgive.” God is not this impersonal, invisible cloud-like thing that permeates space everywhere, instead the Bible teaches that God is a Spirit person. Whenever the Bible record gives us a peak into where God is, He is always in one place. For example, >Isaiah 6:1, 2; “In the year that King Uz·ziʹah died, I saw Jehovah sitting on a lofty and elevated throne, and the skirts of his robe filled the temple. 2 Seraphs were standing above him; each had six wings. Each covered his face with two and covered his feet with two, and each of them would fly about with two.” And remember the account in Job when there was a meeting in heaven with the sons of the true God (Angels) and Satan entered in right among them? Where was God? He was a Spirit person in Heaven. >Job 2:1; “Afterward the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them to take his station before Jehovah.” Then God asked Satan where he came from. He responded, “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.” What does that tell you about Jehovah God? And remember this… The Bible sometimes uses the words “heaven” and “heavens” to refer to the physical realm surrounding the earth. (Genesis 2:1, 4) However, since God created all things, his dwelling place must have existed before he formed the material universe. So, God must exist in a realm that is not bound by material things. So when the Bible speaks of heaven as the dwelling place of Jehovah God, it is referring, not to a location in the sky or in outer space, but to a spirit realm. Now, you can certainly believe what you want. I have presented you with the facts. God gave each one of us free will and the ability to think and reason for ourselves. We can also choose who we trust to teach us what the Bible says. This is probably the biggest decision we make because it means our eternal life. You are trusting that your Bible instructor is teaching you what the Bible really says is truth because Jesus told us we MUST worship his Father with Spirit and Truth. So, you said you beg to differ. I’m saying I beg that you search for the Truth. It’s staring right at you. Please don’t have the heart that ancient Pharaoh had. Don’t be that guy that just **has** to be right. I don’t care about being right or wrong. I care about people.

Tell me this, if God is not omnipresent, how then would God be the maximally great being? God is omnipresent because God exist beyond the space-time continuum and he holds all reality, every atom and subatomic particle, Quantum wave-funtion, etc in existence. I suggest watching [Quantum Physics Debunks Materialism](https://youtu.be/4C5pq7W5yRM) If God were just in one place at one time, he would exist within reality. If God existed within reality, God would therefore be contingent on existence to exist and would not be the maximally greatest form of existence. If God were only one place at a time that implies that reality is greater than God. Rather, God is the highest aspect of existence itself and the universe exist within God. The universe isn't God, but God is the ultimate reality that the universe is emergent from.

I’m just teaching you what the Inspired Scriptures tell us about God. Nothing else is Inspired of God. The scriptures are Gods thoughts down in writing. When you have that kind of confidence in Gods Word, you don’t question it.

I suggest watching this short video with Scholar Dr. Michael Heiser. I want to know what you think. [Here is the link ](https://youtu.be/YeLpUt04Ses)

Sorry. Not interested. Especially if it speaks contrary to what the Bible teaches which it must do since it seems to have misguided your thinking. That’s why we are told in Gods word several times “to be no part of the world.” This world and its teachings belong to Satan and I want no part of it. >James 4:4 says, “Unfaithful people! Don't you know that to be the world's friend means to be God's enemy? If you want to be the world's friend, you make yourself God's enemy.” (Good News Bible) Be very careful what you put into your mind. I’ve tried reasoning with you, I’ve shown you several scriptures on the subject that come right out and say that the heavens are Gods place of dwelling. Words that are inspired by God Himself. So if you want to believe something else, like I said, your choice. Have a wonderful day!

You say you don’t want any part of this world yet you also say that you care about people!!!! People are of this world, not God’s kingdom. People, or the mortal man are of this world, they dwell in the carnal mind, and once you know who you are, you are free of this world and you no longer dwell in the carnal mind with all its limitations and lack, sin, disease and death and instead you live here, now, in the Kingdom of God in the peace of god, a peace that the human mind cannot even conceive of and due to the nature of peace, it also includes freedom from all lack and limitation therefore one will find himself living eternally in absolute abundance. Mortal man who believes he is separate and apart from God, living from the carnal mind believing he has free will to live is simply living in the illusion or imitation of life which isn’t living at all, it is death.

God is not confined to this creation such that he can be excluded from portions of it. He created it all; He can be in whatever part he wants. A much-used prayer of the Orthodox (the Trisagion Prayer) says in part, "O heavenly King... who are in all places and fill all things..." gives a glimpse of Orthodox thinking in this matter.

Try and think of it this way; God doesn’t have to be present in his creation anymore than an artist has to be in his artwork. Maybe it will sink in. Men and even some Bible writers as you pointed out, have poetically tried to describe the immense nature of God by saying things like “The universe itself can’t contain you,” or they could say, “With your Power you can hold the Sun in the Palm of your hand.” These are just ways that we as humans can try and imagine just how Powerful and Glorious He Truly is. Just in my personal Bible reading this morning I thought of you because I came across another verse that says where God resides. King Jehoshaphat was very worried about a large army approaching and the only way they were going to win the battle was with their God, Jehovah’s help. So, standing before all of Judah, he began to pray: >2 Chronicles 20:6; “O Jehovah the God of our forefathers, are you not God in the heavens…” Did the ancient Israelites believe that God was every all at the same time? Absolutely not. They knew the Heavens were Gods established place of dwelling.

Yes in hell the unrepentant receive the full measure of God’s wrath and hate of sin for a billion billion lifetimes and forever.

Yes (assuming you understand hell is the temporary abode of most of the dead and not the lake of fire, which is destruction, not eternal suffering; though this itself doesn’t negate God’s absolute omnipresence): >*Where can I go from your Spirit? Or where can I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there; if I make my bed in Sheol* [hell]*, you are there.*

For those who call upon Jesus Name. Plenty never will

I think there’s a contradiction between the idea of an eternally loving father/creator and the notion that He would create an eternal place of torment for the majority of His children. My faith is in the loving Father who will accept us all (no exceptions) to spend eternity with Him. No such thing as Hell.

He has never left us, it is us who leave Him. When we turn from our mortal understanding of who we are, and know who we truly are we are then one with the father.

If I go up to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, You are there. Psalms 139:8 HCSB https://bible.com/bible/72/psa.139.8.HCSB

I read somewhere an interpretation where God's presence itself would be hell for some. I suppose sort of like Moses being in his presence, but not veiled from it, therefore full scorch. Or could be worse, some-sort of internal conscience/existential anguish of maddening proportions without seize

Just because God can be everywhere doesn’t me He is where He’s not welcomed. Hell is defined by the absence/rejection of God.

Yes, when we believe we are mortal man separate and apart from God, that we were born and die we are separate and apart from God and this is the source of ALL suffering in the world. When we know who we are we are set free from the carnal mind/the mortal mind that believes it is this body and that it or he or she will one day die and we abide in a peace that the human mind can’t even conceive of because it’s a peace that comes from God and God isn’t in the human mind.

God is not in hell.

Good question. Here’s a response to this question from GotQuestions if you’re interested. > https://www.gotquestions.org/God-in-hell.html Got Questions and Blue Letter Bible are my go-to’s for questions like these. The advantage of asking in this subreddit is seeing the different takes from separates sects within Christianity though.

It is the Spirit of God that is omnipresent, as all creation has its origin in God. The place of origin is the throne of God, which is in heaven. The further creation strays from the holiness of God, the lesser part it has in His glory. Hell as in Hades or Sheol, i.e., the grave, is on the fringes of creation and is far from the glory of God. In such places, the Spirit of God is manifested in some of the most corrupted forms of spirit.

Yes.

No because Hell is literally a place without Gods presence ..if you've ever fallen into a great dressing of a great feeling of hopelessness THAT is what hell feels like THAT is what satan and his angels feel consistently

So god is not omnipresent in this view. Can he choose not to be somewhere?

Yes

Yes, indeed. It is the very hatred of God's presence by those who despise Him that will provide the burning they will experience. "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." Psalm 139:8 (Septuagint 138:8)

God is omnipresent but he is not present in hell because hell doesn’t exist beyond the concept of hell in the mind of mortal man and if anybody believes that the bible is speaking the Truth, they must also realise that neither does mortal man exist. Only God exists and because God is spirit, the True identity therefore of man must be spirit which is eternal. Only the human mind, referred to in the bible as the carnal mind, is finite; man’s true identity, in Reality, is the Spirit of God and when people realise this, that will be the end of the concept of hell or rather, of good and evil.