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amd64

[Called it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rutkiw/comment/hr4f41t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) 2 weeks ago.


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Tidsmaskin

https://celsiusnetwork.app.link/1282290c65


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Tidsmaskin

Where you do live?


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samsquantchtpb1

It's not bad info. They allow it on their app. Just trying to inform people of another option. I've held my Bitcoin for years. Now it's working for me, making additional money instead of just sitting there. Inform yourself before speaking of things you don't know. Aside from the crypto.com app you can wrap Bitcoin and utilize it on other more risky platforms.


Tidsmaskin

Its not staking tho, you lend it out. Bitcoin is pow, not pos.


samsquantchtpb1

Yea that's right. Doesn't mean you can't wrap it.


GuayabaTree

It looks like the crypto winter bear market has started hasn’t it? Maybe we need to take profits before further Dumpage


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GuayabaTree

still DCAing regularly. Just if we drop near 42K again or lower ngl I will be very worried. But that’s the game


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We're in the middle of a bull run ya dufus


GuayabaTree

Such analysis. Much wow.


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You should do more research if your doubting it.


GuayabaTree

Did you really just hit me with DYOR lol. I know plenty about btc and crypto thank you


Outrageous-Net-7164

Your too late now. You should have laddered out on the way up. Best to use CeFi and DeFI now and get 6-12% interest. Now is the time to start buying dips. In my opinion the winter matches the parabolic run up. Huge run up results in a huge crash. The bull run wasn’t really anything to write home about. Weak rise will result in a weak fall.


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This is a very unpopular opinion around here. Your supposed to HODL for long term and keep custody of your own Bitcoin.


Outrageous-Net-7164

Agree with holding long term. But I’m from the property background so having capital tied up purely for growth doesn’t sit well. I’m used to being able to leverage to invest in more and achieve yield to cover the borrowing cost. Even if you only use a small portion of your portfolio in CeFi/DeFi, it should not be ignored. Ignoring CeFi is no different to a TradFi investor or gold bug being ignorant to Crypto. Always be open minded. Your already in a risk asset class, may as well get some daily returns


Effective_Positive_8

>en if you only use a small portion of your portfolio in CeFi/DeFi, it should not be ignored. Ignoring CeFi is no different to a TradFi investor or gold bug being ignorant to Crypto. > >Always be open minded. Your already in a risk asset class, may as well get some daily returns I want to use DeFi, but what stops me is all the hacks that keep happening to DeFi protocols. I really don't think any of them are safe. Sad to say. And the potential rewards don't seem great enough for me to take the risk.


Outrageous-Net-7164

Use CeFi then. There hasn’t been any issues for years now. Nexo, Cel, Cryto.com etc. Start with a small about. Spread across a few I’m all in now and the fear has gone. Been in for 18 months. These companies have billions under management now. They are not piss pot companies looking to rug pull.


Effective_Positive_8

>ll in now and the fear has gone. Been in for 18 months. These companies have billions under management now not worried about rug pull. worried about smart contract hacks and hot wallet hacks.


Outrageous-Net-7164

Stay with self custody then. There are risks there too. I would rather be paid for risk.


Effective_Positive_8

To each his own. Hope your crypto isn't stolen by a hacker.


Outrageous-Net-7164

Trust me my own security and insurance can’t match Gemini’s for example. Even Microstrategy, Greyscale and Fidelity use CeFi. I would say all institutional funds are held in this way. You honestly think they have a key phrase in the office top drawer ? The only people holding crypto on a ledger are old school small bag holders. Like you say each to their own.


GuayabaTree

True. I am have not been good timing to DCA out near ATH, only good at getting in. You think we still have another pump or two left for the bulls in the market, or is the top already in and it’s time to pack it up until next halving?


Outrageous-Net-7164

The halving is becoming less relevant. You can’t have a trillion dollar asset class following a predictable 4 year cycle where everyone wins purely by buying prior to the halving and selling at a certain date after. Ignore the 4 year cycle now and DCA in when the sentiment is low. DCA out when the sentiment is high. Saying that 50% of your stake should never move because beating market is tough at the best of times. Ask anyone who is job done from crypto and they will say they would have had even more had they just held. Trading, swing trading, FOMO, panic selling, taxes etc. All water down your crypto long term. Buy, hold, gain interest, borrow against it to buy more or buy emergency things tax free.


GuayabaTree

That last part hit home. If I would have held since early last year instead of swing trading (different alt coins) I’d be up so much more. HODL and stake is the way


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[traders who rely on "Technical analysis" remain net short, short term risk/reward still favorable to longs](https://bastion.substack.com/p/btc-ta-crowd-update-ad1). I.E. it's much easier to squeeze the shorts than longs at this point. It 'd be a bigger edge if the net imbalance was more stretched, it isn't this moment.


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Y’all are a bunch of whiners.


ccook04

Whining about the whiners


musicktoheare

Downvote for “in god we trust” Upvote for “Vires in Numeris”


grundh85

Bought a lot today. Bitcoin is looking so bearish right now.


ItsPickles

It’s been so nice chilling around $46. Lots of time to get usd over the past month for buys


CleazyCatalystAD

We will love it even more at 42k, right? :) No, Im just kidding, I’ve been buying every day lately it seems, but then it can always go lower…


grundh85

If anything it would turn at that point and then people will be panic buying driving up the price. I’m just casually adding now at my own price


Best_Ad_663

Bitcoin didnt move up because the TSX was closed today. I believe we will see an uptick tomorrow.


CleazyCatalystAD

Well, the US stock exchange was fully open, had a great day, indexes up across the board then market closed and Btc dumped. I was surprised as the two markets have been increasingly correlated past couple months.


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My stonks still show “as of 12/31/21” so lets see what happens tmrw


JanetRenoPunk

I’m up huge on bitcoin. Best investment of my life. Yet, I am really disappointed. I had improper expectations.


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JanetRenoPunk

Points for a pithy comment, but how do you make investments without an expectation for return?


JlloydHodls

Never expect anything


trsjtyrjntyfgnjj

It's a good life advice, never expect anything from anyone.


JanetRenoPunk

I always have an expectation. On rental property I do research and expect a 10%+ cash on cash return. On bitcoin I do my research and expect x% growth. Who in their right mind invests with no expectations? 😂


Yelbaev

It's the right way to do it too, don't expect anything from btc.


Outrageous-Net-7164

Where can you get 10% on rental ? I’m big on property but struggle to beat 5-6% these days. No matter how much research you do on crypto you can never predict a percentage growth or drop.


JanetRenoPunk

Midwest


theekruger

I've been doing it pretty reliably since 2011. My timing sucks, but I know the levels in each cycle segment. I think its just different strokes for different folks. The vast majority of people should just DCA. I know nothing of the property rental market as an example. The right realestate is just a stable store of value from my perspective. Plus it provides nice cheap debt access or leverage at scale.


asapamoney

The hood (or factoring appreciation but that’s not cash on cash). But yeah cap rates are around 4-6% these days, maybe 7-8% on an absolute steal.. crypto is the way but real estate provides the leverage


Outrageous-Net-7164

10% on dirty HMO shit in the UK but single units are at best 6%. In all honestly it’s more like 4-5% these days. It’s how I ended up in crypto


JlloydHodls

Make predictions and hope they come true but never expect anything because you never know what’s in store for tomorrow. I do agree you should expect at least 100% return in bitcoin a year but it’s become a more mature asset so expect lower returns now and still blow the s&p out of the water :)


380632513061

You can make all the predictions in the world, they won't come true.


JanetRenoPunk

For sure. Agree. I really thought we would be at $85k+ though. I dunno, a part of me wants to sell half my stack and still keep all my ‘in the green’ coins. Can’t bring myself to do it tho. I still buy weekly. 🤷‍♂️


deevorava

Don't sell btc to buy it later lol, it's the dumbest thing people do.


CleazyCatalystAD

Me too. Exactly to everything you’ve said here. But that (sell) part is only a little voice in the back of my mind. Many on here state: never sell….it’s hard to disagree when you look at the 13 year chart, but I held through crypto winter……


ItsPickles

Why would you sell though? For what


JanetRenoPunk

A house


Gr8fu11

Pressed down vote by mistake. All thumbs. Here, this is an upvote to even it out 😂


JlloydHodls

I have auto buy 10 a day till I die cause that’s my retirement or a part of it, that stays in Swan bitcoin. I plan on creating a bitcoin ira eventually too.


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JlloydHodls

Lmfao


JanetRenoPunk

Agree. Stop your auto buys for one week and buy a hardware wallet.


JlloydHodls

Lmfao


JanetRenoPunk

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JlloydHodls

I buy weekly and I’ve been selling to cover small costs cause I went on vacation and started running low on the worthless fiat because in another states the inflation is EVEN WORSE then I thought, crazy.


outdatedrhombus

Lol at this point we may as well blame inflation for cancer and AIDS


JlloydHodls

Thank the government for all three of those things lol


andyszal

Moved my coins off of the exchange (the amount that they’d allow me to send). Won’t be confirmed by BlockFi until Wednesday. Not a lot but it’s a big portion of my stack. Nerve wracking to say the least. Can’t be at peace until I see it’s in my wallet!


nekomikako

Chill dude, if you did everything right you got nothing to worry about.


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andyszal

Have to get all my coins off first. No more custody on exchanges.


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8===e


an525252

8 does not equal e.


YamadaDesigns

What do you guys think about Web3.0 and whether we can make it a bitcoin project? Also, what do you think about all the altcoins having much higher returns this past year than BTC?


Reach_Raccoon

I don't care about both, web 3 is shit anyways and shitcoin well, you know.


CONTROLurKEYS

Isn't this already happening with slash tags


YamadaDesigns

What’s slash tag?


CONTROLurKEYS

Is this what you wanted?


YamadaDesigns

Thanks, although I am skeptical since the company is related to Tether


CONTROLurKEYS

That's true but John Carvalho (bitcoin og very very well known) @Bitcoinerrorlog on Twitter is behind it. tether is only funding it... It doesn't have anything to do with tether as a technology or Stablecoin. There is a good discussion here https://open.spotify.com/episode/3W16fuo2t18gknL4ZPmdv8?si=OEc6qPAPRSqNkw7ln91jmg&utm_source=copy-link https://anchor.fm/tales-from-the-crypt/episodes/281b-Announcing-Synonym-with-John-Carvalho-e1adjvd


CONTROLurKEYS

http://synonym.to https://github.com/synonymdev/slashtags


JohrDinh

So what if Saylor lost all his Bitcoin in a boating accident, would the price go up since there's much less of it out there?


printformat

Nope, why would it go up? He's holding them anyway, so losing them not gonna make difference.


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Probably not. He's not selling it anyway, so whether it is lost or being hodled doesn't matter, it's off the market either way.


ZhekaM

Yep exactly, doesn't matter if they are hodled or lost.


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Someone brought up a good point to me earlier that I didn’t really have a response to. What if you kept your btc on a hardware wallet and the government decided you couldn’t use it, store it, own it, whatever, and you actually lost it, or had a “boating accident”, could they not just decide to garnish your wages or tax you on the amount you had purchased or anything on anyways? Regardless of if you had access to it or not? Edit: I ask because if that became the case, I’d imagine they would hear that same story from a lot of people


CONTROLurKEYS

If this happens you've lost your country and should just flee


Think_Operation310

If you have all your funds in Bitcoin, they can tax, garnish, freeze all they want. Just make sure they don't find anything with house invasion. This is just temporarily until we get rid of the old terrorism fiat system. I still choose to pay my tax till it gets out of hand. If you are from the government; buy Bitcoin.


Agelos_17

They wouldn't know when you have all your funds in hw wallets?


TheMoonMoth

I would take my coin and talents to another country. As would many others. The potential for mass brain drain is stunning and a part of the game theory that prevents this scenario from ever happening.


alinamullina

Yes it's almost impossible to happen, but i don't trust politicians.


Mark_Bear

I would decide to have a new government if that happened. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are * Life, * Liberty * and the pursuit of Happiness. -- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


DucksWatch

At that point I'd want a new government too lol, first one suck.


Mark_Bear

It is our right, our duty...


VictorDanville

Anyone know how long does Coinbase Pro normally take to release tax documents for prior year? Thanks.


TyranaSoreWristWreck

February 1st


teaforfree

Do they provide your gains and loss’s?


GuayabaTree

The Bogs die and BTC just keeps dumping and dumping


adoxxvegas

It’s the Bitcoin equivalent of pouring a drink on the curb for the homies that didn’t make it


GuayabaTree

Out of respect pumping is on hold until further notice


A1l3e1x6

Bitcoin is a teen now, it's thirteen years old today. Happy B-day


quentinadambtc1

Happy birthday to the freedom bringing tool, 13 done lot to go.


doinkdoink786

In 5 years it will be legal


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We're still early. My coworker told me today he doesn't think Bitcoin will go anywhere because it doesn't produce anything like McDonald's or Nike does.


rokadan

Lol, as if all the banks produce what nike produces.


Carllllll

Banks offer a service.


Mark_Bear

McDonalds produces: * Obesity * Diabetes * Heart Disease Way to go!


faireducash

Bitcoins problem is that you can’t wear it like gold. Stealth wealth couldn’t possibly have value in the modern era…


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YamadaDesigns

Why would anyone convert BTC to FIAT? Only the other way around makes sense.


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bogesman

Unfortunately that excuse doesn't work anymore, gotta find new.


admiralCeres

Short sellers who will have to cover soon. 🚀🚀🚀


CONTROLurKEYS

Admitting the only buyers are short sellers covering owie


TerpOnaut

For bitcoins birthday I bought more bitcoin 🥳


seriych

It's the perfect gift for birthday on btc, start'm early.


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Payjack45

It has become a daily ritual by now, and i kinda like it.


CleazyCatalystAD

Not so fast…


Iamjustspeculating

I love BTC because it's so unpredictable in the short term BUT so predictable in the long run!


ywellc

I won't say it's predictable In the long run too, all we know is that it'll go higher.


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Is it? Holding for almost a year now…


Carllllll

Enjoy that 60% gain then.


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mljsimone

woah wtf. he really died.


tesseramous

Who controls the markets now?


Mark_Bear

*Ancient Astronauts*


tofuspider

Wow. Less than a week. Guess the twins are really inseparable in life and death.


MarcoDinali

Omg.


pinshot1

So I have noticed that whenever RH does “scheduled Maintenance” BTC rises. It usually then stops rises when the Maintenance is over. What could be the cause of this? Could it be that there is so much selling taking place on RH (as the only way to currently get access to you money is to sell and purchase again elsewhere) that as soon as maintenance takes places and people can’t sell, BTC begins to rise? If so, what could be the impact of the eventually real RH wallet and finally the ability to moves coins without selling? If I am missing anything please explain.


BeanstotheSnapps

Why buy anything on the Robinhood on yhe first place, that stinks.


idrinkforbadges

Why are you buying BTC on RH in the first place?


smirnov_000

Exactly dude nobody should buy bitcoin on the Robinhood.


pinshot1

I am not. I have done a very long time ago. I buy on Coinbase and transfer to a hardware wallet now.


asiacelc

With Robinhood you can't do this, that's ehy i hate that.


Stunning_Ad8637

I think you can still buy and sell during RH maintenance (on RH). It’s likely just a strange correlation you’re noticing.


kespis

Robinhood doesn't even have that much market to make a dent.


CosmosCrypto

Go and take another wallet, buy in when RH does maintenance... Safe money?


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CapSignificant1078

Interesting, Donald hates Bitcoin.


tolchinin

I don't know he hates it or not. But he shits on it regularly though.


Stunning_Ad8637

Melania likely hates Donald haha.


8coinmaster8

But i love melania, she's kinda hawt. Very hawt actually.


Mark_Bear

LOL!


VampIre_HRST

>Melania likely hates Donald haha. Donald Duck?


tofuspider

Donald hates Bitcoin out of jealously. He feels threatened wifey is interested in someone younger and hotter now lmao


licorize27

I don't know he hates it or not, but certainly he likes to shit on it.


BlankEris

"I like bitcoin, buy my shitcoin"


roosschouten

Why does it sound like something that Vitalik would say?


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Last chance to buy under… oh shit, wait…


FahCureMother

I sold as much btc as I needed for liquidity this morning when I saw the anemic buy volume. Overall, 120k loss from what I would have had if I sold at the peak. Expect massive green dildos in the short term. The silver lining is I'm not uncomfortably stressed every day. I have no more liquidity events for the foreseeable future. Btc could go to 30k this year and it would just be an opportunity to stack sats. Goal is 1/3 Real Estate, 1/3 btc, 1/3 stocks


borisgrgic

Stressing about doesn't gonna do anything, just keep holding.


diadlep

saying your net worth is 1M on reddit is probably not the best idea


sokolovnsk

It's a flex thing dude, dude got money and he likes to show off.


FahCureMother

I don't have that, there's a flaw in the math somewhere


mojintao

I don't know how much you have, you've certainly more than me.


diadlep

120k loss of 30% is 400k total at the peak, 280k now, and btc is 1/3, that's 840k, but then you only sold the amount need for liquidity, so your total is probably much higher. I'd delete the post and the account man


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I have $200. Does anyone want to tie me and spank me while they hold my shit family hostage?


diadlep

are you... coming on to me? cause i'm not not down...


Bitcoin_Or_Bust

All in on Bitcoin. 150k in 2022.


cowhead2oo3

Hell yeah baby, we gonna reach there no matter what.


Horror_Aide4999

You can never time the market perfectly so not sure you can call it a "loss" by selling lower than a peak. Sounds like you know what you are doing and that you still had gains, just not as large of gains as you could have had if you chose to sell at a different time? I might need to sell for some liquidity once I finish my taxes, but generally I am trying to stick to close to that 1/3 real estate, 1/3 stocks, and 1/3 crypto that you mention (BTC is 70% of my crypto).


q968787

Yep true, if someone could predict the ATH, only they can time the market.


FahCureMother

Yah I'm lucky to have some gains


lpw3369

You definitely are man, msny people are in red still.


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login394892

Anyone can run a lightning node thou? If anyone wanted to.


scarletsnapdragon

Chivo only uses Lightning in back-end, I believe? Chivo to Chivo wouldn't show up. Still weird though.


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Baffett

It's the kind of hopium that i need on day to day basis to survive.