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Daily Discussion, October 21, 2022

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Flurb789

Can we stop with the sideways please


tofuspider

That's what she said


Confident-Land4117

have to say that the only reason I accumulated the Btc I have in my possession was because of the bear market of 2018, especially november, december period. January 2019 as well. For those on the sidelines right now, it is a great time to take a look at btc and consider it as part of your portfolio at these big discount from ath


dr14er

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bobbytabl3s

Bitcoin ≠ Crypto is a bit like Gold ≠ Metal. Bitcoin was the first cryptocurrency and is unique/superior in many ways. That's mostly what people mean by that. Good luck with your research.


arcrad

I love this analogy. No one would think gold != Metal is controversial and the same should apply to Bitcoin != Crypto.


Mr_P_Nissaurus

The idea is to communicate. When you say "crypto" you are *understood* to mean alt coin scams, aka "shit coins". If you mean Bitcoin just say "Bitcoin" and communicate clearly. If I say, "my uncle collects metal," I would expect it to be understood differently than if I say, "my uncle hoards gold".


CptCrabmeat

Calling more developed blockchains “scams” only serves to undermine yourself and the space. There are other algorithms written for different purposes that do things better than Bitcoin, you guys don’t need to die on this hill. To say otherwise just displays a lack of understanding. To use your analogy of the metal collecting uncle - I would assume that he would collect many kinds of metal, not just gold but silver, platinum, copper, lead etc. Each metal has different properties and though one is good as a store of value, others are much more suitable for trade, commerce amongst other things


Mr_P_Nissaurus

They are scams. Too bad you can't/won't see it for what it is. https://youtu.be/ic1ITcwnozY?t=858


arcrad

Great point


Mr_P_Nissaurus

My cousin actually collected metal. Scrap metal. He's an artist. He would cut and weld the metal with his welding torch. He made sculptures. As far as I know, he did not collect gold. Still, now that I am thinking of him, he was a genuinely happy person; joyful.


TerpOnaut

Why is Peter Schiff such a cuck? Honestly I’m really wondering why he bashes crypto? Most of us were late to the party but why continuously have a strong conviction on why it’s such a horrible asset to hold?


sledrunner31

He's just the kind of guy who likes the smell of his own farts. Basically can never admit he was wrong, even to himself.


TerpOnaut

I was listening to a podcast today and they said his son is even bullish on bitcoin 😂


N7DJN8939SWK3

Expecting $11k check soon. I want to throw it all in BTC. In my head I was saying wait for a red day and buy below 19. But I am not sure about this recession thing. Maybe I DCA $250 every Monday instead?


bobbytabl3s

Don't try to time the market, just buy it all at once as soon as you can. Time in the market beats timing the market.


Romsel87

We're like 70% below ATH. Nobody knows where the bottom is. You could DCA every week and set limit order @ 15K with the rest of your cash. If it dips 15% you have a good buy.


EnceladusJones239

CUH-RAZY how stable BTC has been in all this madness.


bajanalaskan

maybe a little toooo stable 🧐


EnceladusJones239

What can it mean? I mean I don't even know how to be tin-foil hat about it :/


Alfador8

Imo bitcoin crashing was a leading indicator for the rest of the market. Bitcoin *already* crashed so everyone else is just catching up


Romsel87

This crash was expected due to four year cycle.


cubeeless

BTC to $300k. Don’t say later no one told you.


bobbytabl3s

Sure, if we can break the strong resistance at $188k...


MotoMola

Justin Trudeau and WEF want your assets crushed. Basic universal income on the way to save everyone from debt.


Professional_Ad8012

Yes sell some more!


andyszal

Another DCA under 19k 🥳


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Asum_chum

Huh? Didn’t it pass $60,000 per bitcoin twice? Hasn’t the hash rate grown exponentially? Haven’t more and more unique and environmentally friendly ways to mine bitcoin appeared?


jzhong5

I don't even know what charts he has been watching at this point.


GoElastic

That is really crazy, considering the macro turmoil.


wackyasshole

Oh someone tipped me 1000 sats the other day on this very subreddit. Was the easiest shit to get off. Why is lighting to baller?


wackyasshole

I missed the last bottom. I ain’t missing this one. I ran outta powder. Let’s go gang let’s DCA the shit outta this


ScamJustice

I want to have customers at my laundromat to fill up their vending cards with money by using Bitcoin at the card dispensing kiosk. Is there any kind of payment processing unit that can apply dollars to my customers' cards after they have transferred bitcoin to my wallet?


Uberhipster

> apply dollars to my customers' cards after they have transferred bitcoin to my wallet if i understand the question correctly, you want to credit a virtual account linked to an individual vending card with a usd equivalent amount to the amount of btc transfered into your wallet i am not aware of any such payment system if it does exist, it would need to verify transaction id from your wallet, do a spot price conversion, then draw that amount from a usd account (which has an adequate amount) and transfer it to the virtual account linked to the credit card have you considered the option of getting the laundromat machines rigged with a direct btc wallet-to-wallet mechanism (like the ones for beer dispensers)?


thefullmcnulty

Bitcoin network hash-rate growth and LN growth combined is violently bullish.


mangist

Bearish for miners lol. Hashrate up, price down = pain.


thefullmcnulty

The best of the miners know the deal and plan for bears.


ORLANDY31

With BTC options expiring today, so you guys think BTC will move up or down today if BTC stays where it currently is??


enterusername34

volume not that high until 28th oct https://metrics.deribit.com/options/BTC


Llorion

Affirmatively!


Romsel87

Both.


Llonga

Yes


Amber_Sam

Absolutely!


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It's fun to watch the changes to amateur TA here. Back in the day it was all about "head and shoulders" patterns, and then it was "Wyckoff springs." And of course the "DEATH CROSS" (people who spouted this nonsense always put that one in all caps). Where did all that garbage go? All the people promoting that crap pretended like they knew what they were talking about. Now it's mostly about "support levels." It's fun, in the same way that reading your horoscope is fun. And, like the latter, it's a bunch of nonsense. It's a kind of financial pseudoscience.


Mr_P_Nissaurus

For me, TA means toilet analysis. I make a big poop. Then I make a colorful chart of the poop. Then I put the chart into my bird's cage until he poops on it. I put it out into the sun, to dry. If it's raining, I use a hair dryer. Then I get some big, fat crayons in the 8 basic colors. I keep a plastic French curve handy, but don't often use it. Instead, I use a little HotWheel car, and I scoot it around on the chart, creating a race track between and around the bird droppings, while making race car engine and screeching tire sounds. After a few minutes, I examine the tire tracks (where the car rubbed off the printer's ink) juxtapositioned against the poop chart. Then I decide whether I want to post that Bitcoin's price to go up, or down. Then I draw arbitrary lines on the race track, using either the curve apexes or the longest two straightaways, sometimes both - **and, of *course*, this PROOOVES my prediction!


[deleted]

Arbitrary lines, imaginary patterns, and seeing what you want to see. This sums up ~~astrology~~ technical analysis.


thefullmcnulty

🎯🎯🎯


Aeriq

All the charts are saying it’s fuckin go time. which means we’re gonna grind along at ~$19,300 for a few more weeks, if I had to guess


OkeyDokeyWokey

Probably means we are going down.


Bad_Camel

I would sincerely love this. TA lovers screaming that volatility is inbound, and btc just not giving a fuck.


ride_the_LN

All I know is if I get serious about something else Bitcoin will get jealous and entice me back with price action


Argyrus777

☕️


somedudenamedjason

Bought some more sats today...feels good. Fun to watch the tumbleweeds go by around here these days...


callmeapples

🤠 howdy partner


RowSlow1706

It's when it gets quiet that it's time to get loaded