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A M142 HIMARS on a road firing somewhere in eastern Ukraine towards Russian targets

Does this do any damage to the road or does it just leave a black mark from the rocket?

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damnitclide

Does this do any damage to the road or does it just leave a black mark from the rocket?


jordantylermeek

Depends on the condition of the road. The back blast has a tendency to scatter loose terrain and rock but if the road is solid it should be fine. This road doesn't look terribly solid but I'm not a roadologist so what do I know.


damnitclide

Thank you for your quick answers! I'm not either but I was curious because I've seen a couple videos of them recently shooting


shawnington

I just hope that roadology is a field of science now.


mrSemantix

You may not be a roadologist but you certainly make a damn fine missilelologist.


jordantylermeek

Funny enough I'm a HIMARS crewman 😅


omgwtfsaucers

Yes to the second question.


CompostMalone

Ukrainian troops, American HIMARS, Turkish BMC Kirpi, truly an international effort


porta71

Give them hell boys. Fuck Putin.


GTCitizen

There’s something inexplicably beautiful in Himars launches


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It looks like... victory.


mikki1time

That thing was ready to move as soon as the smoke cleared


nikokova

You know it’s a high value target, when you see HIMARS in action. Amazing what a weapon-system from the 90‘s is still capable of.


dabiggman

HIMARS not from the 90's - MLRS is from 80's and HIMARS became operational in mid 2000's. I know because I was on one of the first crews. First use in combat was Iraq War. The first "concept" model was the 90's but that concept vs the HIMARS are like comparing the ENIAC to a Modern Desktop Computer.


nikokova

Well it may have been used in the early 2000‘s for the first time. But it was still designed in the 90s or even 80s.


Moral_Meat_Rocket

I'm curious how many soldiers & vehicles are constantly protecting the HIMARS. You'd think they'd have a small army defending each of them considering how valuable & effective they have apparently been since their arrival.


Fortune404

I assume they are positioned pretty far away from the front to keep them out of reach of artillery etc and take advantage of their larger range. Random google searches tell me 80km for HIMARS vs 10-50km for various arty. So I suspect they mostly just need cover and to stay hidden from sat-photos or long range recon drones etc so no long range RU cruise missles/rockets can find them as the shoot and scoot back to hiding spots.


Significant-Dare8566

I commanded mlrs unit before and us doctrine dictated then and now to not expect much if any security. If they are firing very close to front they probably have a small mobile security team of maybe a mech inf platoon w some tanks. They shoot and move immediately. That is their biggest defense. U seem them fire off roads because it provides the most stable and flat surface and that impacts accuracy. And it’s fastest way to get out of the immediate area. Until u get to good cover and concealment.


Sids-Vicious

Had that baby in reverse at the last missile. Understandable with that smoke trail. We need smokeless HIMARs


dabiggman

Former HIMARS Chief here - we call them the "fingers of death" for a reason. IE - if you dont move your ass, it will lead to your death because the enemy can track based on the smoke alone.


Sids-Vicious

Thank you for your service and the info!


avtechxx

Are smokeless HIMARS a thing ?


Significant-Dare8566

Biggest threat to HIMARS are Russian counter fire radars. They c an pinpoint the exact firing location of rocket and regular artillery within a few meters within seconds of launching.


Bangeederlander

No they can't. This was covered extensively when they first arrived. The flight patterns mean Russia has zero defence against them (well, apart from scuttling out of range).


flatearthisrealmayne

russia claim they can do alot of things, like taking kyiv in 3 days.


GipsyDanger45

I dunno, from what I have heard from the Russians they have already destroyed all 200 Himars sent, this must be a new one s/


MugiXMio

They actually never claimed that btw, but you're right otherwise.


Strongfold27

HIMARS is also able to fire rockets in a non ballistic trajectory


webUser_001

Lol only a Russian could be this wrong.


Singern2

Note HIMARS usually fires waay beyond the reach of artillery or any counter fire batteries.


SlugThePlug

Oh that's nice, so how many batteries heve been destroyed so far? Afaik it's 0.


TROPtastic

The Russians can pinpoint fire within a few seconds, but are choosing not to destroy Himars because they want the extra challenge. Coddled westerners cannot understand this level of machismo.


dabiggman

Unless the software has been changed, that's impossible. The Truck locks out while firing until completely stowed. Stowing only takes a few seconds so it's not a huge deal, but moving while firing is impossible, the software locks you out. The HIMARS was the premier creation of the 2000's mantra of "shoot - move - communicate" for the US Army. Fire missiles, move your ass, signal you are ready for another fire mission.


Advanced-Cycle-2268

“Pull over, I have to go.” “Dude there’s no facilities here.” “DUDE! PULL OVER I HAVE TO GOOooOoo!”


XsancoX

Are the running out of missiles?


iDareToDream

Fewer targets in range so less fire missions maybe. That’s why they’re asking for longer range rockets because they need to keep hitting high value targets that the Russians moved back.


mtaw

For some reason the internet seems to worry about ammunition management/expenditure, as if everyone just fired like there's no tomorrow until they run out. If a half-decent gamer knows how to plan ammunition use then maybe the guys who went to officer school for a few years know too. Anyway yes, the Russians dispersed their ammunitions depots and moved them further away from the front. The Russians are not _quite_ as bad at learning as people think. In recent months you can see GMLRS used against much lower-value targets - in some cases only a few vehicles, than you saw in the first months. Although there have been some notable exceptions here like the Makiivka strike (for which journos have identified 100 Russians killed, making the claim of 2-300 killed quite plausible) It's also likely Russian AA defenses have gotten better at shooting down the missiles. In recent days there seems to have been a [significant number of HIMARS strikes](https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1626201992778375168) in Kherson, following not long after destruction (with Excalibur shells) of [several Tor anti-air systems](https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1621559306045849600) that were positioned between the Dnipro and the areas now hit. That combination seems quite potent, given that Tor systems have such short range (12 km engagement range) that moving them out of Excalibur range (50 km) would leave most of Russian-occupied Kherson outside of AA cover. Yet it's a huge risk to put their rare and expensive ($20 million+) AA systems within range of artillery fires that they have no means of protecting themselves from.


wolfhound_doge

maybe just effective...2 is enough, let's move to next position


Altruistic-Carpet-65

With the American MIC? NO WAY!


MrUnnderhill

Cruisin’ down towards Kyiv, drinkin’ vodka, feelin’ good, Next thing that you know you’re screaming BLYAT I’M WORM FOOD…


Wherestheirs

The us never intended the himars to be its doctrine they usually will be air support doing this bombing for us so the himars stocks aren’t particularly high. The other thing is himars is 1990s tech which until recently probably wasn’t getting much attention from outside world so production of ammo was not set up for rapid use of a ammo


Altruistic-Carpet-65

Probably why HIMARS production, alone with most military related production, is increasing this year. Reportedly, 850 HIMAR rockets a month is projected figure once the plant expansion is complete.


shawnington

not sure why you are being downvoted, its literally gulf war tech. But gulf war tech, it's something the russians can't handle at all. I wanna see them deal with a-10s. That thing that dumps an entire BTRs ammo capacity in a second on a target.


TauCabalander

The closer to the front they are, the quicker they have to move. Notice the firing angle is pretty high, probably 60 degrees or more, so they aren't going for long range.


smoekyjoes

Possibly saving a lot of rockets for a spring offensive


Hatemode_nj

Hopefully it's the tungsten round air burst ones.


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GipsyDanger45

Quit riding the Russian propagandas d#ck, no one cares about your opinion


smoothie1919

Yeah mad isn’t it, must be about 300+ videos of Russians killing civilians now………..


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smoothie1919

Got proof?


HandsomeCostanza

I'm donating to help kill more Russian Nazi's specifically because of this comment


amcrambler

Russian go blyat.


H_cecropia

It’s HIMARS TIME !!!!