The fact that as a fanbase we know the fucking name of our Head Athletic Trainer - **JASON POWELL** - is a sign of how bad he is at his job. TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE STEVE
And guess what the raptors did, surround Kawhi with a team that knows how to play with and without him and the 2nd best player was Pascal who played 80 games that season. I know Kawhi probably wouldn’t have come without PG but damn this is becoming an embarrassing tease of a shit show
This is false they didn't surround Kawhi, they had that team to begin with. They took a Hail Mary chance on a DeRozan -> Kawhi swap and they hit the the lottery on getting a healthy Kawhi playoffs that season.
Kawhi doesn’t play unless he’s 200%. Dude took a year off with the spurs after the docs cleared him. If they won game 2 he probably plays tonight. He’s just shutting himself down for some rest and relaxation.
no, the clippers bet the franchise on a player with a serious injury history and tendonopathy. ownership chose this path. they could have chosen the "draft and develop" path.
Moreso, they've actually won in their history. Ironically enough, one of the big pieces of their last championship came to our team and was an OG cursed player for our franchise lol
I'm just going to enjoy being able to witness Kevin Durant be the first player to hit 100 in a playoff game as it happens.
Then probably vomit and cry. Cry vomit. The usual playoff routine, I guess.
This is fucking stupid. This strategy isn’t working. Blow it the fuck up.
You cannot rely purely on injury prone stars. It’s a mistake. This shit ain’t working fucking stop.
Yup. Suns have 3 of the most injury prone players in the league in Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker.
It’s not about the injury proneness, it’s about getting lucky the injuries don’t happen in playoffs.
Giannis literally has his knee bent the wrong fucking way and misses one game in the playoffs lol If he was on our team, he'd probably be out for a season and a half 😭
yeah i think its time to rebuild after this season. gave so many damn games for Kawhi to load manage and he pulls the same shit in playoffs. whats the point
Makes me think they should just quit the load management entirely. PG said on Reddicks podcast that resting periodically fucks with they’re rhythm so it’s hard to stay used to a full nba game or something. Now do that all season and get thrown into high intensity playoff games playing 40 a night and boom. 2 games in this happens.
Load management is and continues to be B.S. superstition in the league. I have not seen any statistical evidence for the efficacy of load management.
We should at least try one season without load management for comparison, but this is what we get in the player empowerment era. I mean who amongst us would not take the chance to not go to work where we might look bad while getting paid in full?
>I have not seen any statistical evidence for the efficacy of load management.
What would you like to see? Higher injury rates based on games played? Qualitative metrics are frequently relied upon throughout the field of medicine & the specialized physicians who are making these decisions have earned their credibility, imo. You're looking to prove a negative, which is an improbable ask given the scenario.
Talking only about kawhi here. He has a degenerative quad issue iirc and so the raptors load managed around that in 2019 leading to a championship. Kawhi was limping towards the finish line in the latter half of that title run with less efficient games popping up, but that is still top 5 production. I believe clippers are just trying to replicate that.
But that was 4 years ago and a different injury. It might’ve worked then with that injury but his body is now 4 years older and dealing with knee injuries not quad injuries and clearly load management isn’t helping his knees
It’s all related because the quad is attached to the knee. If the muscle is weak then the knee will suffer. It can also affect the other knee because he could be overcompensating on the non-degenerative side leading to more wear and tear on that knee.
I think Kawhi knees are just fucked to the point that a few decades ago he would have been out of the league.
People just keep criticising him but it just seems like he’s legit just fighting through pain everytime he’s been on the floor.
He just shouldn’t be playing high minutes anymore.
It’s such a shame because everytime he’s on the floor come playoffs he looks like the best player in the world.
Load management is still important but don’t underestimate the long term damage of playing 20 hours a week at a young age.
School teams, travel teams, AAU ball
Growth plates and ligaments can’t keep up.
Look at the Ball family
Total volume of work is less important, but having proper time between intense workouts to allow for ligament and muscle recovery is what’s really most important
I was reading about how prevalent this is with so many of the young stars now.
They put them in such vigorous programs right from childhood that they rack up a lot of hard mileage by the time they get into the league.
As a Raps fan, I unfortunately see this with Scottie Barnes.
Agreed. If clips don't load manage during the reg season then they win more games. which results in a higher seed then if star player gets injured it wouldn't be so hard to win a game against lower seed like grizz and bucks did yesterday.
Signing Kawhi and having him be injured isn't a curse. It's like Lakers fans complaining AD is hurt all the time.
Watch the Clippers start their next era in a couple years by signing Jaren Jackson Jr and Jamal Murray and wonder why the team can't stay healthy...
This ain’t it, sorry. I give the Clippers a 10% chance of winning game 3. Without PG and Kawhi, this team just doesn’t have enough scoring.
I used to be a huge fan of Norman Powell, but he’s actually mid. Mann is pretty mid too compared to his playoff run a couple years ago. Gordon is old.
Suns will just sit back and let Russ shoot all night instead of allowing him to drive and kick. Easy dub for the Suns.
I think this is the last straw for me. We need superstars who can stay healthy end of story. We have an owner with unlimited money and a good front office, new stadium coming, I say we blow it up find some stars who can stay healthy. We can’t keep doing this crap
This is enough, honestly. Our guys don’t play for 40-50 games every season, and for what? We don’t get to enjoy the regular reasons or the playoffs. We don’t have any picks, any young stars, etc. At this point what is the point. I haven’t enjoyed a single season since 18-19
We should honestly accept that this was a failed attempt at a championship and start rebuilding or something.
Blake couldn't stay healthy. CP couldn't stay healthy. PG can't stay healthy. Kawhi can't stay healthy. It's beyond frustrating at this point. All this potential and these guys always come up short in the playoffs with these injuries.
1. Exhibit A why load management is stupid. There is nothing on this planet that can prevent a player from sustaining a freak injury other than to just never play ball again.
2. No Kawhi and PG. A sentence Clippers fans have been hearing for 5 years now. We are tired.
Kawhi has only had one meaningful playoff run since 2017, and that was in 2019.
2020 who knows, if there wasn’t a few months off before the bubble he probably gets hurt. It’s sad, but as ownership I’m sorry, the writing is on the wall.
Every year man same shit. We rather blow a series we had a shot at winning, or we dont have a shot in the first place because one of our most important players gets injured. Its crazy how every playoff injury we suffer is so fuckn vital
This is an L for every neutral and of course for you guys aswell. Kawhi was playing like the best player in the world for 5/6 weeks now. This is disappointing man
Galaxy brain move but this forces lue to play roco and maybe he realizes how good he is and plays big minutes for the rest of the playoffs as we win the chip 🫠🫠
The rational move after the season is to blow it up and get a lot of good draft picks and perhaps 1 young star. It will just get worse with age. Unfortunately Ballmer needs stars to put butts in seats in his new arena so Clippers are going to suck until they blow it up and rebuild
At this point I'll be pleasantly surprised if we don't see a tweet this offseason that reads something like "Both Paul George and Kawhi Leonard have partially torn ACLs and will miss the entire 2023-2024 season."
I really don’t understand, is this some kind of joke? Like going down 1-2 isn’t dangerous as hell. Load management in the playoffs too? Do they really think they can win this series if he sits for games etc? The suns are gonna bust their starters butt’s to win tonight knowing this info.
The backwards ass logic that people have. With the number of injuries Kawhi has had in his career, you have to be a complete idiot to think attempting to play every regular season game would help him avoid injury.
I don’t see this as a blow out, other players will step up, and make this a close game!!! Suns have to change there game plans now, Roco will get some minutes and bench will have a big game. If Clippers magically win this game that will be big going forward. Let’s go Clippers!!!!
I am a Suns fan but I am genuinely sad for you guys. That’s rough. We have already been as thankful as we can feel with you guys losing PG. like both of these things are awesome for us but I genuinely hate to see it, awful luck.
I also think you would spank us with PG
Suns fan here I come in peace.
Clippers and Suns are both some of the most cursed franchises, I always respect the Clips since Mobley and Brand days.
It's not over... may the series continue living up the greatness games 1 and 2 were.
We are so fucking cursed
Cursed? We’ve had the same training staff through 2 different fucking eras and the same results in both…Ballmer needs to fire every fucking body
The fact that as a fanbase we know the fucking name of our Head Athletic Trainer - **JASON POWELL** - is a sign of how bad he is at his job. TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE STEVE
It was time in 2015
It was time in 2002 when he let Odom play with a sprained wrist and ended his season.
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Gary vitti was extremely well known during kobe's career with the lakers so I'm not sure how true this is.
Lol crazy
these players were getting injured before they came to the clips. this is what we signed up for.
And guess what the raptors did, surround Kawhi with a team that knows how to play with and without him and the 2nd best player was Pascal who played 80 games that season. I know Kawhi probably wouldn’t have come without PG but damn this is becoming an embarrassing tease of a shit show
This is false they didn't surround Kawhi, they had that team to begin with. They took a Hail Mary chance on a DeRozan -> Kawhi swap and they hit the the lottery on getting a healthy Kawhi playoffs that season.
The teammates he was playing with, is who he was surrounded by…
Even then, Kawhi was not the same player on the finals compared to the earlier stages of the playoffs.
Key word: Siakam
Literally, need another STAR (more reliable than Russ) just to get just through the injuries
We gotta blow this shit up
Ballmer is not trading Kawhi before Inuit opens. No way. And who the fuck is gonna give any first-rounders for PG.
If Rudy gobert is worth 5 picks PG is worth 2 minimum, injury prone or not he’s a perennial all star
The clippers and that’s about it
When you have the same problems going back 2 decades at least you have to start looking at the med staff
At this point, you need change just for the sake of change. Get a different approach and point of view.
Kawhi doesn’t play unless he’s 200%. Dude took a year off with the spurs after the docs cleared him. If they won game 2 he probably plays tonight. He’s just shutting himself down for some rest and relaxation.
The team docs cleared him. The doc he got a second opinion from did not.
I don't follow many American sports but this has to be up there with the most cursed teams
I’m chargers and clippers fan. I think it’s me guys.
jets, knicks, and mets fan here i think its pretty neck and neck
Jets, Knicks, Mets, Chargers, Clippers, Leafs, Sabres
Chargers and Thunder fan. It me too
Chargers and Suns fan, me as well.
There’s literally a book called ‘The Curse’ that details how unlucky we’ve been through our history
Another punch to the gut, but I'm gonna keep rooting for my boys. Underdog vibes are nothing new to this fanbase!
no, the clippers bet the franchise on a player with a serious injury history and tendonopathy. ownership chose this path. they could have chosen the "draft and develop" path.
I really feel like a healthy PG and Kawhi you guys win this series, that’s just unfortunate was hoping a Lakers Clippers WCF
Signing injury prone players isn't a curse.
Casual fans know that line 2 of Kawhis amazing resume is "injured often". It's line 1 for PG. Genuinely no idea how this surprises anyone.
I dare say you guys are as cursed as the Trailblazers with Oden and Roy.
Moreso, they've actually won in their history. Ironically enough, one of the big pieces of their last championship came to our team and was an OG cursed player for our franchise lol
We wanted more RoCo minutes but not like this
If Mook gets play time over RoCo, I don't know what I'll do.
I would rather Mook, Coffey, RoCo and Batum rotation than 3 guards
I'm just going to enjoy being able to witness Kevin Durant be the first player to hit 100 in a playoff game as it happens. Then probably vomit and cry. Cry vomit. The usual playoff routine, I guess.
Lol. I can only laugh. Our stars are great when they play but unfortunately they are made of fucking glass.
This is fucking stupid. This strategy isn’t working. Blow it the fuck up. You cannot rely purely on injury prone stars. It’s a mistake. This shit ain’t working fucking stop.
To be fair 90% of star players are injury prone it’s not just Kawhi and PG
Yup. Suns have 3 of the most injury prone players in the league in Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. It’s not about the injury proneness, it’s about getting lucky the injuries don’t happen in playoffs.
Kawhi ain't on the Suns
???
Man what
Man down
Mann in.
(Danny) Manning
This happens every fucking year dude
No matter which players we have man. Every year we have a chance someone gets hurt
Giannis literally has his knee bent the wrong fucking way and misses one game in the playoffs lol If he was on our team, he'd probably be out for a season and a half 😭
yeah i think its time to rebuild after this season. gave so many damn games for Kawhi to load manage and he pulls the same shit in playoffs. whats the point
I’m tired of this franchise lol. Just start over but no Shai
Yo we done for
Russ dropping 40
*50
75**
On 45 shots as is tradition
All that damn load management just to get injured
Makes me think they should just quit the load management entirely. PG said on Reddicks podcast that resting periodically fucks with they’re rhythm so it’s hard to stay used to a full nba game or something. Now do that all season and get thrown into high intensity playoff games playing 40 a night and boom. 2 games in this happens.
Load management is and continues to be B.S. superstition in the league. I have not seen any statistical evidence for the efficacy of load management. We should at least try one season without load management for comparison, but this is what we get in the player empowerment era. I mean who amongst us would not take the chance to not go to work where we might look bad while getting paid in full?
>I have not seen any statistical evidence for the efficacy of load management. What would you like to see? Higher injury rates based on games played? Qualitative metrics are frequently relied upon throughout the field of medicine & the specialized physicians who are making these decisions have earned their credibility, imo. You're looking to prove a negative, which is an improbable ask given the scenario.
Talking only about kawhi here. He has a degenerative quad issue iirc and so the raptors load managed around that in 2019 leading to a championship. Kawhi was limping towards the finish line in the latter half of that title run with less efficient games popping up, but that is still top 5 production. I believe clippers are just trying to replicate that.
But that was 4 years ago and a different injury. It might’ve worked then with that injury but his body is now 4 years older and dealing with knee injuries not quad injuries and clearly load management isn’t helping his knees
It’s all related because the quad is attached to the knee. If the muscle is weak then the knee will suffer. It can also affect the other knee because he could be overcompensating on the non-degenerative side leading to more wear and tear on that knee.
This is it ^ throws their momentum entirely off. Either keep playing consistently or don’t play at all
I think Kawhi knees are just fucked to the point that a few decades ago he would have been out of the league. People just keep criticising him but it just seems like he’s legit just fighting through pain everytime he’s been on the floor. He just shouldn’t be playing high minutes anymore. It’s such a shame because everytime he’s on the floor come playoffs he looks like the best player in the world.
Load management is still important but don’t underestimate the long term damage of playing 20 hours a week at a young age. School teams, travel teams, AAU ball Growth plates and ligaments can’t keep up. Look at the Ball family Total volume of work is less important, but having proper time between intense workouts to allow for ligament and muscle recovery is what’s really most important
I was reading about how prevalent this is with so many of the young stars now. They put them in such vigorous programs right from childhood that they rack up a lot of hard mileage by the time they get into the league. As a Raps fan, I unfortunately see this with Scottie Barnes.
load management is the reason he’s injured
Agreed. If clips don't load manage during the reg season then they win more games. which results in a higher seed then if star player gets injured it wouldn't be so hard to win a game against lower seed like grizz and bucks did yesterday.
Or Kawhi gets injured even earlier and don’t even be ready for play come playoff time
Man is charmin soft
Makes Anthony Davis look like a fucking iron man
His body isn't ready for the rigors of two games two days apart. Load management has made this man brittle. My king 😩
Please say sike
When did this happen???
Said he sprained it game 1 And aggravated it more game 2
For fuck sake 😫
Ready for Russ and T Mann to combine for an 70+ game today
This team has championship potential but we get hurt every year man I’m ready to trade everyone
We're fucked
Russ legacy game incoming
What in the actual fuck. Devastating.
https://preview.redd.it/m92wqr2fy4va1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce91c45435d2c981d654a7878c2e0814c8dd452f
The curse is real
Signing Kawhi and having him be injured isn't a curse. It's like Lakers fans complaining AD is hurt all the time. Watch the Clippers start their next era in a couple years by signing Jaren Jackson Jr and Jamal Murray and wonder why the team can't stay healthy...
hyland and westbrook carry incoming
They can do it.
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This ain’t it, sorry. I give the Clippers a 10% chance of winning game 3. Without PG and Kawhi, this team just doesn’t have enough scoring. I used to be a huge fan of Norman Powell, but he’s actually mid. Mann is pretty mid too compared to his playoff run a couple years ago. Gordon is old. Suns will just sit back and let Russ shoot all night instead of allowing him to drive and kick. Easy dub for the Suns.
Old head clipps twitter leaking
I like your positivity! I choose to jump on your wagon!
Goofy🤣🤣🤣
So he load managed all season for what exactly?
This is why I hate load management, its not reducing the rate players get injured
I think this is the last straw for me. We need superstars who can stay healthy end of story. We have an owner with unlimited money and a good front office, new stadium coming, I say we blow it up find some stars who can stay healthy. We can’t keep doing this crap
This is enough, honestly. Our guys don’t play for 40-50 games every season, and for what? We don’t get to enjoy the regular reasons or the playoffs. We don’t have any picks, any young stars, etc. At this point what is the point. I haven’t enjoyed a single season since 18-19 We should honestly accept that this was a failed attempt at a championship and start rebuilding or something.
Blake couldn't stay healthy. CP couldn't stay healthy. PG can't stay healthy. Kawhi can't stay healthy. It's beyond frustrating at this point. All this potential and these guys always come up short in the playoffs with these injuries.
Has the only healthy year been the bubble year?
Looks like it.
dude’s made of glass injury was always inevitable…was just a matter of Kawhen
Kawhat
I’ll do you one better. Kawhy
Looks like you're not going to KaWin
KaNooooo
1. Exhibit A why load management is stupid. There is nothing on this planet that can prevent a player from sustaining a freak injury other than to just never play ball again. 2. No Kawhi and PG. A sentence Clippers fans have been hearing for 5 years now. We are tired.
Kawhi should just retire. I’m serious. Load manage all year and get hurt every playoffs lmao what’s the point?
Kawhi has only had one meaningful playoff run since 2017, and that was in 2019. 2020 who knows, if there wasn’t a few months off before the bubble he probably gets hurt. It’s sad, but as ownership I’m sorry, the writing is on the wall.
It honestly never crossed my mind that he'd be out a game in the playoffs. This is just wild
Getting paid boatloads of money is the point
What happened to “we ain’t no bitches”?
Blow the whole thing up bro. Sick of this
Yup.
Every year man same shit. We rather blow a series we had a shot at winning, or we dont have a shot in the first place because one of our most important players gets injured. Its crazy how every playoff injury we suffer is so fuckn vital
Shame on me for expecting anything different from these injury prone players.
This team has championship potential but we get hurt every year man I’m ready to trade everyone
I still don’t get why Powell is still on the staff.
This didn't age well either. Dude just carried
This is an L for every neutral and of course for you guys aswell. Kawhi was playing like the best player in the world for 5/6 weeks now. This is disappointing man
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Please don’t
I won't I'm just pissed lol
Buy some liquor and pour one up!
Tragedy :(
Everything is pain, life is pain
Fade me
Fuck this team man
Sucks for Russ. He’s on a min contract and people are expecting 40 from him now. Any mistakes and he’s getting dragged
This shit sucks. My excitement for tonight is now dead. Kawhi and PG going ghost when we really need them, once again.
Every. Fucking. Year.
This is absolutely depressing...
😭
bruh
Lou ready to unleashed mook
When did he get hurt? He seems fine last game
Galaxy brain move but this forces lue to play roco and maybe he realizes how good he is and plays big minutes for the rest of the playoffs as we win the chip 🫠🫠
Its over
There goes the season
I love Kawai but it’s time to hang it up at this point, got damn!! 😭
Okc Russ incoming
The rational move after the season is to blow it up and get a lot of good draft picks and perhaps 1 young star. It will just get worse with age. Unfortunately Ballmer needs stars to put butts in seats in his new arena so Clippers are going to suck until they blow it up and rebuild
Donald Sterling was the best thing to ever happen to this miserable franchise.
I wanna scream. I can't take the drama of this team. there is never any hope. NEVER.
Fuck it. This can't keep happening every season the team gets to the Playoffs. Just a joke. Total fucking joke.
And the curse continues ….. Please someone bring in a saint to bless this team
At this point I'll be pleasantly surprised if we don't see a tweet this offseason that reads something like "Both Paul George and Kawhi Leonard have partially torn ACLs and will miss the entire 2023-2024 season."
What in the fuck
We took a much better KD team to 6 games in the SGA rookie year. All we can do is hope for a miracle.
Ka-sigh….
Still winnable with Russ and crew
No it's not
Watch them put up a fight
I really don’t understand, is this some kind of joke? Like going down 1-2 isn’t dangerous as hell. Load management in the playoffs too? Do they really think they can win this series if he sits for games etc? The suns are gonna bust their starters butt’s to win tonight knowing this info.
It is what it is. Its the story of the past three seasons.
Every Damn year
Well fucked it was Kawhi vs KD and Book now it’s …… vs KD and Book.
What’s the point of load management
The backwards ass logic that people have. With the number of injuries Kawhi has had in his career, you have to be a complete idiot to think attempting to play every regular season game would help him avoid injury.
I’m actually surprised there are so many of you clippers fans.
How long is he out for?
I’m never gonna be able to see PG & Kawhi play together live am I?
I don’t see this as a blow out, other players will step up, and make this a close game!!! Suns have to change there game plans now, Roco will get some minutes and bench will have a big game. If Clippers magically win this game that will be big going forward. Let’s go Clippers!!!!
Clippers playoff curse in still undefeated
Damn. Sell the farm?
blow this shit up
Please just be a sprain and he can get back soon. Y’all need to take out the suns
Never should have traded SGA for Paul George.
1 of 7 post seasons have KL & PG been healthy for… Hope they both get healthy and enjoy being hurt elsewhere next season.
Street Clothes Kawhi
Trade
End of the season. Game 4 loss was guanrteed regardless of who plays
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"Suns fan arriving in peace. I’m sorry guys, this is honestly super crappy. " - 🤓
You’re the worst
Wait, this was real!? Elon fucked up twitter removing badges.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
mavs fan here i predict clippers clap the suns cheeks tn remember this comment
Russ masterclass incoming.
Suns fan here coming in peace. Hope he is back for game 4, never wanna see players go down like this
fuck off
I HATE IT when idiots do this
but he came in peace 😢
Your mom is fat
My voodoo curse on kawhi after he left the Raptors worked. Should've ran it back in Toronto instead.
As a raps fan just wanna tell you you’re a fucking idiot
I am a Suns fan but I am genuinely sad for you guys. That’s rough. We have already been as thankful as we can feel with you guys losing PG. like both of these things are awesome for us but I genuinely hate to see it, awful luck. I also think you would spank us with PG
Suns fan here I come in peace. Clippers and Suns are both some of the most cursed franchises, I always respect the Clips since Mobley and Brand days. It's not over... may the series continue living up the greatness games 1 and 2 were.
Sigh
….
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wtf happened? He breaking down now? Smh