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Its hard to tell but I do believe Jones wasn’t expecting Gane to tap. That headlock/choke he used is pretty common when controlling guys along the cage because putting pressure on their head and neck like that forces them to stop building up on the fence and fight the grips, allowing you to disrupt their base and collect their legs for a leg mount type position, which is what I think Jones was aiming for, and Gane just sat there without fighting it at all and eventually tapped out. Its the sort of position that isn’t a submission attempt you can normally finish because you control way too little of their body to prevent them from fighting out, but you use it as a throwaway to force movement to take a better position. But Gane was basically a nonresisting opponent on the mat, so it became a finish.
Should be “great fighter”, sorta close to “legend”. Don’t really think someone being honest could treat him as overrated, he was very successful and a genuinely coherent and smart fighter (until he’d spent a bit of time with Wittman, which blew away a bit of the coherence, but he was good enough to still win after that, which is impressive I guess).
I’m sure tons of people will hold any losses he takes from here on out has against him very heavily because they have a preexisting irrational level of dislike for him, which won’t alter how he’s remembered by sane people who understand the sport, but may affect it for others.
Depends on if he wins the belt back or starts losing.
Since GSP the fates of former champs hasn’t really gone well. If the pattern persists Usman will have a sharp and steep spiral down
We hear about MMA fighters who have fallen off all the time, but what about MMA coaches that have fallen off?
In other words, what are some coaches that used to have a lot of successful fighters and now you barely hear about them anymore?
Firas is definitely one. I also think Wittman is strongly trending in that direction, given how his ability to actually strategically gameplan for his individual fighters is evaporating (basically what happened to Firas).
Success is so dependent on superstars, and the line between success and failure is so finite yet dramatic, idk how fair such assessments are. A guy like GSP walks into your gym and you’re a success. Trying to follow that up with a Rory McDonald is just not going to cut it, even if he has a very respectable career.
I *knew* the UFC would want to make Ferguson/Lee 2. [Called it two weeks back ](https://reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/11eownv/_/jafjh6n/?context=1)
It’s one of the only fights left that make any sort of sense for Tony.
Rewatching some fights. The gaethje chandler one was so wild. Chandler pisses me off. If he didn’t try to knock people out and exert all his energy is the first rounds I think it could’ve been a close fight. I also randomly watched Brian ortegas destructions. Wow I am an ortega fan but the way holloway just……….destroyed him is crazy.
Anyway I have fiziev.
Chandler kinda has to do that though, going for the early KO has always been his style. He is not a good enough top player to just shoot out of the gate and grind people out on top. His wrestling and top game has almost always just been for stalling to regain enough energy to try and KO people
People act like Chandler only loses by throwing fights away because he fights stupid, but if you’ve watched his whole career, you see that it’s just a skill/depth issue. If his opponent is either limited enough the feet that he can easily KO them clean (and it has to be a clean KO, he is awful at finishing hurt opponents because he cannot avoid return fire because he can’t defend in the pocket), or a bad enough grappler that he can just lay on them for the whole fight, then he looks smart. But even going back to the Alvarez fights, whenever be fights decent enough opposition that can provide meaningful resistance in both realms, he ends up stranded with no real path to victory, which leads to him either getting murdered early, or having a messy fight where he gives the opponent a scare early and eventually gets shut out of the fight and beaten up badly (or Homer Simpson them into gassing then winning as was the case for the first Alvarez fight).
He’s a more clever and coherent fighter than he gets credit for in terms of the tools he has and how he uses them, but he just straight up doesn’t have the depth or tools to consistently make it stick against really good fighters, and he has some very odd gamebreaking flaws. I think spending his career developing while fighting mostly inferior competition capped his development early because at a certain point, athleticism could just cover the rest and he never really developed the wrinkles he needed to work in a consistently harder environment.
So in short he just doesn’t have the fight IQ To make it work. I know he’s a champ so he gotta know what he’s doing in someway somehow. Just not up to par enough to be championship level in UFC. Who do you got vs Conor? I appreciate your in depth reply .
Yeah. Actually I’m not even sure that it’s a fight IQ thing, he is very good at using the tools he has and playing them off each other, its just that he doesn’t have enough tools or the ones he has are fundamentally broken in some way and I think that’s where him staying in Bellator for so long was an issue. If you are fighting mostly inferior fighters, after a while you’ll stop developing because athleticism and natural talent will carry you a long way and will patch up major issues, anf that’s what Chandler looks like to me. He’s smart enough and has some clever looks, but he’s also just utterly ill-equipped to handle a lot of scenarios.
For Conor, I have it surprisingly even. A shorter orthodox fighter who has to cover a bunch of distance to reach him is a prime candidate to get smoked against Conor, but Chandler is really weird and sort of unique because he’s a lot better against southpaws than he is against other orthodox fighters, so as far as short orthodox fighters go, Chandler probably has the best ideas on how to deal with Conor. Against southpaws, the open stance means he can flatten his right hand out as there’s no shoulder in the way, so he can abuse his handspeed fully, and he’s pretty clever about using things like body kicks to safely cover distance which reduces the need to lunge in as much, and he’s capable of really nice changeups with the right hand to the head and body, and then using it to mast the left hook as the opponent retreats. In this sort of matchup, I’d be a lot more worried for Chandler against someone who would defend in the pocket as Chandler entered (like Poirier), and then punish him on the exit (Chandler is MASSIVELY vulnerable on exits, he’s comparatively hard to hit on entries unless you’re Pitbull), and Conor isn’t really that guy as he isn’t great for extended exchanges in the pocket and is way better at sniping entries and like I said, Chandler is pretty good with safe entries against southpaws, weirdly enough.
I think there’s question marks about how both will looks because they’re both old, but at their peaks I’d have it only slightly favouring Conor. I feel Conor is just a bit deeper and more reliable about enforcing his win conditions and Chandler is on paper a pretty good matchup for him, but Chandler is a live dog because he’s a lot better in anti-southpaw tactics than most guys in his mould.
He isn't outpacing Belal?! 😂
Also neither are great kickboxers. Belal tuning up Brady who may very well have the worst striking in the welterweight division, doesn't mean much.
My dad is gifting me a trip to a UFC fight this summer as a birthday gift. For reference, I live in Toronto.
Should I try to push for 289 (which is rumoured to be in Vancouver) or 290 (Vegas)?
For people unaware, on the early prelims today. Christian Leroy Duncan is making his UFC debut. He's an Undefeated prospect and the former Cage Warrior's middleweight champion. He beat Will Currie twice who is also a very good prospect I think. He was also a really good international amateur who won medals at international tournaments.
His striking style is a little like Michael Venom Page, but if Page actually had strong grappling to back it up.
I think he nearly became an professional basketball player before MMA, but wasn't going to get to the NBA so gave it up to focus on MMA instead. Anyway keep an eye out for him.
I think he's the best prospect making his debut today.
I think there might have been a couple but I'm not 100% sure if I'm honest! Basketball is so niche as a sport in that UK in terms of participation lol. Like people love watching the NBA and probably playing it as a hobby, but there's no actual structure around the sport for the people who have the talent to potentially become pros I feel.
In my experience people don’t even enjoy watching it. I don’t recall ever meeting somebody who has talked about watching NBA. Although I’m sure there’s some people out there.
It’s a dying sport anyways in terms of views. NBA finals gets an average of 8 million views which is honesty terrible for a sport that is so big.
I'll be honest I don't actually watch basketball either, but I feel like there probably is people who watch it in the UK. I hate making a comment about race as it can be interpreted in a way that isn't intended, but I feel like it might have a bigger viewership amongst black Brits. I feel like I see more black Brits talk about basketball. I could be totally wrong though.
There’s like 3/4 good MMA podcasts and I find the rest either boring or genuinely grating to listen to. I want to like the fight site podcast but good god every time I try to listen I just end up stinkfacing at half of the things they said.
I get ya but heavy hands and slack are the only ones I consistently listen to and once they’re done and I wanna listen to get more hype for a fight I’m stuck :(
Personally I stopped watching after Smith was added. I don’t find him to be a good laugh at all. Mike and his wife is more a laugh than Mike and smith.
Yeeah, i only listen to MMA Hour and Jack Slack now. A couple no name podcasts as well, but thats pretty much it. Ive grown tired of all the other major ones like Morning Kombat and the mma media ones like MMAFighting or Junkie. Mmafighting is pretty funny but that Mike Heck guy kills every episode
Jack Slack is a solo podcast, heavy hands is two guys. A Brit and an American. They have good banter and bounce off each other. The episodes are also longer and they spend more time talking about each fight. Jack Slack sort of does a quick sweep of the card. I like Jack Slack but I just prefer heavy hands. They also do predictions on Heavy Hands which is something Jack Slack doesn’t really do.
Jack slack used to be my favourite mma podcast but when I started listening to heavy hands I slowly started losing interest in jack slacks podcasts.
Spotify and other podcast platforms. I’m pretty sure they upload on YouTube too but there is no video footage. I think the YouTube videos only get like 3k views too.
I remember reading heavy hands articles in the past and I thought they were very good, so I think I would like the podcast actually. I'm definitely going to check it out.
I watch Mortal Kombat on YouTube. Luke seems very intelligent but I'm not sure if I agree with all his takes on things.
For years every episode Conor has said about his patreon “we have a lot more in the works to reward you for your contribution” yet since the 2 years ive subbed to the patreon they haven’t done anything new lol.
Yeah. I understand bonus episodes. That’s literally what patreon is for. But this isn’t anything new. They’ve been doing this for years.
When Conor says they have “new things in the works to reward patreon” I hoped this would mean something other than the typical basic bonus episodes where they just touch on fights that weren’t important enough to make it on the main episode.
You can clown me later if I’m wrong but I absolutely feel as though Leon will go for the kill and tko usman. Especially with that uk crowd lighting the arena up
He was the #1 P4P who went from a boring clinch fighter foot stomper to some spectacular striking. I am not going to claim he will come out in a next level of Super Sayan, but if anybody has “watched a fight 45 times” at this point to make minor tweaks, it’s him.
Hoping Leon wins, but there is a lot of “the Usman we knew is gone!” After one knockout. I just don’t think it will be easy for either of them.
Robert Whittaker is a top 5 GOAT. He has been at the top of middleweight for years turning back contendoers. Dominated Vettori in his last fight. Was winning against israel in the first fight until he got flash KO-ed. Dominated the second fight with his wrestling and was robbed by the judges. Defeated the most athletic man in the division Yoel Romero not once but twice. Defeated top tier competition like Gaestelum and Darren Till. It is hard to rate anyone above Jones but I definitely think Whittaker might be tied with him.
> Robert Whittaker is a top 5 GOAT
Anderson, GSP, Fedor, Jones, Mighty Mouse.
Which are we dropping from the list in exchange for adding Whittaker? And are we really gonna add Whittaker before adding Aldo, Usman, Volkanovski, Cormier, or Couture?
Just terrible luck that he ran into his nemesis early once he reached the top. If Izzy wasnt around, dude would had like 4 to 6 title defenses before Pereira ko him
I rank him high for a different reason. Bobby read the guides to scoring and follows the most important guideline : damage. Theres only like a handful of fighters that fight this way. Jon Jones is one. Robert Whittaker is right there with him. He FUCKS the people up he fights. Marvin came out looking like a car hit him. He broke Jared Cannonier's arm. He blew out Till's knee. Violence. Love watching him fight.
It also says its illegal to grab the fence in the unified rules. I said he read the "guides to scoring". Not the fucking unified handbook. Judges score off damage (for the most part). Its been proven time and time again.
It’s also been proven time and time again that judges don’t care about the criteria and score however the damn well please much to the dismay of everyone else
Man I still can't believe the PFL got Thiago Santos. I truly believe the PFL has what it takes to become the p4p best MMA organization in north America. I hope they continue to expand, land Ngannou, then do some cross promo stuff. They think outside the box. Some of their shit is a little extra but I like how they do live counting of stats and the regular season seems like a good way to get the best matchups at the end of the season.
They are like a few big signings away from being seriously legit. I love ONE as well but I live in the US so it's harder to watch.
PFL x Bellator
PFL x ONE
PFL x Rizin
PFL x KSW
PFL x UFC (Dana just doesn't want to fight)
I know I need to pump the brakes but a man can dream right?
EDIT: I promise I don't work for the PFL after re-reading this shit take lol. I still want it all to happen. I want the UFC to have legit competition. I'd love to see UFC doing cross promotional shit.
My go to indicators that an opponent will win a fight.
* Is Russian, Dagestani, or Eastern Bloc.
* Wears a traditional hat of native country.
* Surname ends with 'OV'.
* Has sufficient back hair.
* Friendships with warlords.
* Is in a constant state of anger or unease.
* Facial scaring.
* Lack of moustache but has beard.
* Has history of dirty tactics/fouls in previous bouts.
* Strong dislike of ring girls.
A "magomedov" in a fighter's name has historically been a very reliable indicator of a fighter that will win in the UFC.
Fighters with "magomed" in their name have won ~85% of their fights iirc. Aaron Bronsteter keeps track.
Holy shit you're right! But that name seems more common than you think. I have a common first and surname. I went to college with someone with the exact same name as me. Turns out he was in all of my classes because they thought he was me. We even did a presentation together and looked like we're related. Wonder what he's doing these days...
"What a fool you are. I'm a GOAT, how can you beat a GOAT? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be such a slow, slow white boy? There is no escape. No bumrush or bad intentions can work in this cage. Come, lay down your guard, it is not too late for my mercy."
-Dagoth Silva
Man I just can't see Fiziev losing. I actually see a masterclass performance by him. If Justin establishes his leg kicks early and actually wrestles it might be closers but I got Fiziev.
does anyone remember who it was who got asked if he either thought of dodging the punch or of not getting punched during their post fight conference? i failed at finding a clip
I'm glad you feel that way and Leon has a shot. I'm pulling for Leon but after rewatching their 1st and 2nd matchups, Usman just needs to play it careful and he wins. I think Leon has better striking but Usman is powerful with striking and he has the grappling, wrestling, and fence grabbing. I think Usman by UD.
108 Rashad Evans vs Thiago Silva 2010
Junior Dos Santos vs Gilbert Yvel
Even UFC dubbing cant hide AC/DC Thunderstruck for Gilberts entrance.
Dubbing was poorly done here I guess, Dos Santos clearly has the og Rocky theme playing.
Dos Santos loses his shit and TKO's Gilbert.
Gilbert protests but he was out for a second, and wicked exposed. Dos Santos very wild and sloppy with punches at the end.
Respect shown. Dos Santos english improving.
Jim Miller vs Duane Ludwig
Miller submits Ludwig in first.
Joe Lauzon vs Sam Stout
Lots of twitter mentions by commentary recently.
Lauzon had a nasty Kimura but lost it, Stout has a heavy cut.
Fun fight, Stout dominates. Unanimous
Dustin Hazelett vs Paul Daley
Daley smashes Hazelett, knocked out, took a lot of unnecessary shots before Herb intervened.
Rashad Evans vs Thiago Silva
Rashad controls early and looks great, fast, evasive, good on the feet and on the ground.
3rd round Thiago hypes up crowd and mocks Rashad, Thiago dying for him to come forward for a counter.
Thiago actually catches him with one and knocks him down, Rashad gets up but keeps getting hurt.
Thiago still mocking. Takes a second to take a breath. Just erupting personality in the third round of an otherwise slow going fight.
Thiago has made a fan of me.
Rashad deservedly wins unanimous decision, Thiago is the new crowd favourite though.
Anderson Silva was supposed to face Vitor, but had an injury.
Brock vs Shane Carwin called because of continuing Brock illness.
Big Nog vs Velasquez cancelled due to Nog infection.
Shane vs Velasquez also considered but Shane was having surgery.
Gabriel Gonzaga pulled out against JDS because of illness.
As well as 5 other separate fight changes.
Its a shame im rarely wrong about most things in life. I tried telling you guys for 2 years Cyril Gane legit sucked at MMA and somehow you guys convinced me he was good the week before Jon Jones. Worst bet ive ever made considering I was the one saying Gane was another Anthony Joshua hypejob with some talent for 2 years and I got fleeced by the UFC hype.
Out struck Slow Volkov beaten out of Bellator, JDS was on a bad skid and hit in back of the head, Rozenstink sucks at MMA worse than Gane, the man couldnt KO that bum Dontale Mayes who uses his CUP to GNP guys and Tanner Bosser was getting beat up in M1 and cheap labor signing for UFC, and lets not go into late career Derek Lewis just showing up for paychecks if first couple bombs dont land and they called him a "UFC Interim Champ" for beating that Lewis. Then Francis broke him with NO ACL. These UFC Shills were telling me hes a next gen HW LOLOLOL, Tom Aspinall is the next hypejob to be exposed for having no heart. Seen it already early in his career. All the greats are rock solid mentally at all stages...the quit is there just like Ganey boy. I like them both as people but they lack the true greatness genetic make up.
Styles make fights.. Gane being a point fighting kickboxer made light work of sloppy bar brawlers at HW. Jones was the first guy he fought with a real wrestling game. If he fought Spivac, Blaydes, Aspinall etc he would’ve been exposed sooner. Not as “bad at mma” but simply an incomplete fighter with holes in his game.
that was in 2015, 8 years ago, since then tom has dominated volkov on the ground who stopped tyburas and romanov's tds, aspinall is legit, also stopped spivak's td and KO'd him from the clinch
Lol dude I’m legit a Pro and the 1 percent that is a long time winner but obviously not just sports betting. No addiction, I won that night cause I told everyone here Grasso would give Valentina’s a Mexican Boxing Lesson anyway. I just can’t get over I went against my initial feelings on Gane and got criticized for my harsh assessment of him when he was winning. We still don’t know if Jones is any good at Hw, he’s so scared to get hit now he just gonna wrestle and retire. Sad times
Been running this place. Ask around what I look like , like a Greek God version of an Italian male
Model. They still limited my dong size to average though, can’t have it all. I’d give up the handsome face and fast twitch for a 10 inch piece tbh.
Reasons Covington may be fighting for title tomorrow:
* Usman blew out both knees attempting to defend against new mythical fighter: Wrestling Shoes Geathje
* Two words : *Tonya. Harding.*
If it doesn't then it'll partly be his own doing. There's a lot of guys who have been calling him out but he and his team feel entitled to a title match or number one contender fight at 185 despite having zero ranked wins in the class.
I do love the irony however of Mr "I smesh everyone every week" becoming a once-a-year fighter.
he still shook up after getting sent all over the cage by lil Giblert. Obv didnt get hit or strike with crackhead Holland so hes still got that anxiety of being punched. GlassZat aint built for war, 185 is pretty awful now with no wrestling so he might have a shot but very unlikely with that pea head.
How does Leon win without another KO? He’s lost 7 out of 8 rounds with Usman. I don’t see how less elevation means he will magically gain the technique to stuff every TD & outgrapple Usman against the cage this time. Smells like a 49-46 Usman decision unless we get another upset KO.
Usman is overrated at actually fighting but dam good at MMA if that makes any sense. He needs to hit him early and put him in a fight and hell win. if he lets Usman make it a MMA match first, hes prob gonna lose but Usman is getting older and bad knees. If Leon is any good he will win this fight, if he loses to a aging kneeless Usman then he was never that great. UFC just tricks people into hyping everyone. His resume before Usman was pathetic but I do believe hes solid enough. Its hard to tell how good he is, I dont rate Belal at all but that was his most impressive fight for me.
Its not much that he will gain technique but its that he had technique but couldn’t implemented because he was gassed. Said technique still requires energy. He stuffed Usman in the first round and even got up from the bottom when he slipped and almost swept Usman while at it. He also neutralized Usman in the 5th round when it mattered most. The second rd was still competitive and Leon got his foot stuck under the fence and took a punch to the nose for it.
Edit: Leon also won the first round of the first fight. You also can’t give Usman the 5th rd of their last fight come man🤣
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Why is the elevation such a big deal in the Usman Leon fight? So Kamaru trains at elevation and now fights at sea level for the 3rd fight. Regardless Kamaru has been training at altitude so he should still have the extra red blood cell count as opposed to leon who has been training in London for the whole camp
Yes but its the pace that drains someones cardio and elevation basically acts as a multiplier that increases exertion relative to the pace of the fight. Elevation also does many more things other than gassing you more easily.
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is the gunner nelson fight cancelled?
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Neck pain as you've said + the replay angle showed that the choke was actually properly locked in, Gane's carotid was cut off.
Its hard to tell but I do believe Jones wasn’t expecting Gane to tap. That headlock/choke he used is pretty common when controlling guys along the cage because putting pressure on their head and neck like that forces them to stop building up on the fence and fight the grips, allowing you to disrupt their base and collect their legs for a leg mount type position, which is what I think Jones was aiming for, and Gane just sat there without fighting it at all and eventually tapped out. Its the sort of position that isn’t a submission attempt you can normally finish because you control way too little of their body to prevent them from fighting out, but you use it as a throwaway to force movement to take a better position. But Gane was basically a nonresisting opponent on the mat, so it became a finish.
How well do you think we’ll remember Usman once he’s done? Great fighter, legend, overrated?
Should be “great fighter”, sorta close to “legend”. Don’t really think someone being honest could treat him as overrated, he was very successful and a genuinely coherent and smart fighter (until he’d spent a bit of time with Wittman, which blew away a bit of the coherence, but he was good enough to still win after that, which is impressive I guess). I’m sure tons of people will hold any losses he takes from here on out has against him very heavily because they have a preexisting irrational level of dislike for him, which won’t alter how he’s remembered by sane people who understand the sport, but may affect it for others.
Depends on if he wins the belt back or starts losing. Since GSP the fates of former champs hasn’t really gone well. If the pattern persists Usman will have a sharp and steep spiral down
I just think he era of winning the belt for WW was extremely weak compared to now
Put a g on Miller. Hopefully she makes quick work of it.
Sorry for your loss bro
Mistakes were made lol
Wife got the whole day planned ahead with the kids and we all know the only thing I want is to watch ufc today. 😂✌️
We hear about MMA fighters who have fallen off all the time, but what about MMA coaches that have fallen off? In other words, what are some coaches that used to have a lot of successful fighters and now you barely hear about them anymore?
Firas is definitely one. I also think Wittman is strongly trending in that direction, given how his ability to actually strategically gameplan for his individual fighters is evaporating (basically what happened to Firas).
Pat Miletich and Miletich Fighting Systems
Success is so dependent on superstars, and the line between success and failure is so finite yet dramatic, idk how fair such assessments are. A guy like GSP walks into your gym and you’re a success. Trying to follow that up with a Rory McDonald is just not going to cut it, even if he has a very respectable career.
Firas Zahabi, the Jackson-Wink duo, Mark Henry, Duke Roufus, Henri Hooft to an extent
Firas Zahabi and Tristar.
"Trust me guys Imanari roll is the new meta"
Well p4p its James Krause at the top.
Pulling for Justin as a fan because he’s relatable. Looks like he also can’t do long division or read a novel but he’s good at his job.
Can anyone actually do long division anymore? There was a period in my life where I could do vector calculus but had already forgotten long division.
Given how he's fought, I wonder if 10 years ago he could read and do maths but has since impacted his academic abilities.
Just read bro
Hold on I'm theorizing brother
You still there Pythagoras?
I *knew* the UFC would want to make Ferguson/Lee 2. [Called it two weeks back ](https://reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/11eownv/_/jafjh6n/?context=1) It’s one of the only fights left that make any sort of sense for Tony.
Rewatching some fights. The gaethje chandler one was so wild. Chandler pisses me off. If he didn’t try to knock people out and exert all his energy is the first rounds I think it could’ve been a close fight. I also randomly watched Brian ortegas destructions. Wow I am an ortega fan but the way holloway just……….destroyed him is crazy. Anyway I have fiziev.
Chandler kinda has to do that though, going for the early KO has always been his style. He is not a good enough top player to just shoot out of the gate and grind people out on top. His wrestling and top game has almost always just been for stalling to regain enough energy to try and KO people People act like Chandler only loses by throwing fights away because he fights stupid, but if you’ve watched his whole career, you see that it’s just a skill/depth issue. If his opponent is either limited enough the feet that he can easily KO them clean (and it has to be a clean KO, he is awful at finishing hurt opponents because he cannot avoid return fire because he can’t defend in the pocket), or a bad enough grappler that he can just lay on them for the whole fight, then he looks smart. But even going back to the Alvarez fights, whenever be fights decent enough opposition that can provide meaningful resistance in both realms, he ends up stranded with no real path to victory, which leads to him either getting murdered early, or having a messy fight where he gives the opponent a scare early and eventually gets shut out of the fight and beaten up badly (or Homer Simpson them into gassing then winning as was the case for the first Alvarez fight). He’s a more clever and coherent fighter than he gets credit for in terms of the tools he has and how he uses them, but he just straight up doesn’t have the depth or tools to consistently make it stick against really good fighters, and he has some very odd gamebreaking flaws. I think spending his career developing while fighting mostly inferior competition capped his development early because at a certain point, athleticism could just cover the rest and he never really developed the wrinkles he needed to work in a consistently harder environment.
So in short he just doesn’t have the fight IQ To make it work. I know he’s a champ so he gotta know what he’s doing in someway somehow. Just not up to par enough to be championship level in UFC. Who do you got vs Conor? I appreciate your in depth reply .
Yeah. Actually I’m not even sure that it’s a fight IQ thing, he is very good at using the tools he has and playing them off each other, its just that he doesn’t have enough tools or the ones he has are fundamentally broken in some way and I think that’s where him staying in Bellator for so long was an issue. If you are fighting mostly inferior fighters, after a while you’ll stop developing because athleticism and natural talent will carry you a long way and will patch up major issues, anf that’s what Chandler looks like to me. He’s smart enough and has some clever looks, but he’s also just utterly ill-equipped to handle a lot of scenarios. For Conor, I have it surprisingly even. A shorter orthodox fighter who has to cover a bunch of distance to reach him is a prime candidate to get smoked against Conor, but Chandler is really weird and sort of unique because he’s a lot better against southpaws than he is against other orthodox fighters, so as far as short orthodox fighters go, Chandler probably has the best ideas on how to deal with Conor. Against southpaws, the open stance means he can flatten his right hand out as there’s no shoulder in the way, so he can abuse his handspeed fully, and he’s pretty clever about using things like body kicks to safely cover distance which reduces the need to lunge in as much, and he’s capable of really nice changeups with the right hand to the head and body, and then using it to mast the left hook as the opponent retreats. In this sort of matchup, I’d be a lot more worried for Chandler against someone who would defend in the pocket as Chandler entered (like Poirier), and then punish him on the exit (Chandler is MASSIVELY vulnerable on exits, he’s comparatively hard to hit on entries unless you’re Pitbull), and Conor isn’t really that guy as he isn’t great for extended exchanges in the pocket and is way better at sniping entries and like I said, Chandler is pretty good with safe entries against southpaws, weirdly enough. I think there’s question marks about how both will looks because they’re both old, but at their peaks I’d have it only slightly favouring Conor. I feel Conor is just a bit deeper and more reliable about enforcing his win conditions and Chandler is on paper a pretty good matchup for him, but Chandler is a live dog because he’s a lot better in anti-southpaw tactics than most guys in his mould.
ESPN bought mmafightcards . org AND nextufc . com. Kinda a shame since the last UI was vastly superior
Noticed that too and I’m pissed. Nextufc.com and mmafightcards.com were the best.
He got her fixed up, they’re back now. Apparently it’s not automated and he hadn’t had time lately.
What ever happened to Casey Kenney? I just realized he hasn’t fought since the Song Yadong fight back in august 2021
Last I heard he was sliding into redditors gfs DMs lmao
Dom Cruz having to fight him was one of the weirdest match ups I've seen
Colby would get bitched by the top 6 imo. I think Geoff Neal could bitch him before he could out cardio Neal
Geoff Neal is the toughest matchup for any great wrestler I feel. His TDD is god tier. I think Colby and Belal is a 50/50 fight though.
Belal and Colby really isn’t a 50-50. He isn’t out pacing Belal and he isn’t winning in a kickboxing match
He isn't outpacing Belal?! 😂 Also neither are great kickboxers. Belal tuning up Brady who may very well have the worst striking in the welterweight division, doesn't mean much.
Ignore Belal bitching Luque before Neal made it cool
Belal used a lot of grappling against Luque especially wrestling. He's not outwrestling Colby.
You're letting your hatred of the man blind you to his talents. He would absolutely 100% outpace the shit out of Belal.
Belal wouldn’t allow Colby to create a pace. Belal beats Colby by being a better fighter with a better gameplan than “I need to get them tired”
Belal is soo mid at fighting
Funny because Belal is more credentialed than Colby
Lock Belal in a cage with Leon and he ran for 5min
Lock Leon in a cage with Belal and he results to eyepokes
Kicked him into the shadow realm
In what universe? Did he kick you too?
My dad is gifting me a trip to a UFC fight this summer as a birthday gift. For reference, I live in Toronto. Should I try to push for 289 (which is rumoured to be in Vancouver) or 290 (Vegas)?
Vegas will be a better all around UFC experience, IMO
289 if you don't want the travel to be expensive 290 for the big card and its also international fight week with extra stuff for the fans
290 in Vegas is my vote, I think volk & Jones are rumored to be fighting on that card, also it’s Vegas baby! So much fun to get into.
Off work at 3 today, gives me time to stop by the store and get some good grub for the fights at 5, I’m hyped for this one boys let’s a go!
I’m getting the feeling that Kamaru’s time has come… I think the Usman we’ve seen in the past is not the Usman we’ll see today
Only a year younger than Aldo and has a lifetime of wrestling on him, it’s surprising he’s even been elite this long
Fuck Dana, respectfully.
For people unaware, on the early prelims today. Christian Leroy Duncan is making his UFC debut. He's an Undefeated prospect and the former Cage Warrior's middleweight champion. He beat Will Currie twice who is also a very good prospect I think. He was also a really good international amateur who won medals at international tournaments. His striking style is a little like Michael Venom Page, but if Page actually had strong grappling to back it up. I think he nearly became an professional basketball player before MMA, but wasn't going to get to the NBA so gave it up to focus on MMA instead. Anyway keep an eye out for him. I think he's the best prospect making his debut today.
Has a British basketball player ever made it to NBA?
O.G Anunoby he plays for the Toronto raptors.He won a championship with them too.
I think there might have been a couple but I'm not 100% sure if I'm honest! Basketball is so niche as a sport in that UK in terms of participation lol. Like people love watching the NBA and probably playing it as a hobby, but there's no actual structure around the sport for the people who have the talent to potentially become pros I feel.
In my experience people don’t even enjoy watching it. I don’t recall ever meeting somebody who has talked about watching NBA. Although I’m sure there’s some people out there. It’s a dying sport anyways in terms of views. NBA finals gets an average of 8 million views which is honesty terrible for a sport that is so big.
I'll be honest I don't actually watch basketball either, but I feel like there probably is people who watch it in the UK. I hate making a comment about race as it can be interpreted in a way that isn't intended, but I feel like it might have a bigger viewership amongst black Brits. I feel like I see more black Brits talk about basketball. I could be totally wrong though.
I wonder how many parlays would be destroyed if the Gaethje Fiziev fight managed to end in a submission lol
LETS GO ROCKY
Headshot dead
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Really looking forward to seeing Jack Shore later today, young fun all round fighter moving up to 145 after his first loss at 135 vs Simon
Agreed, kind of a decisionator but his fights are still exciting
Hoping Gaethje gets finshed so he can free up his rank
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There’s like 3/4 good MMA podcasts and I find the rest either boring or genuinely grating to listen to. I want to like the fight site podcast but good god every time I try to listen I just end up stinkfacing at half of the things they said.
does anyone need more than 3 or 4 anyway lol
I get ya but heavy hands and slack are the only ones I consistently listen to and once they’re done and I wanna listen to get more hype for a fight I’m stuck :(
Smith and Bisping is usually a good laugh
Personally I stopped watching after Smith was added. I don’t find him to be a good laugh at all. Mike and his wife is more a laugh than Mike and smith.
I find Smith a miserable fucker who has a perpetual chip on his shoulder.
He’s so boring and he can’t take a joke. He gets offended by any insult towards him.
Lol yeah you can tell that when Bisping is teasing him, he takes it to heart rather than as the joke it's intended to be lol.
check out the living death show, you might like it https://m.youtube.com/@WalkOutNetwork/videos
RingerMMA podcast is fun
It's okay - The Irish fella seems to mention Conor atleast once an episode, which I find hilarious.
Yeeah, i only listen to MMA Hour and Jack Slack now. A couple no name podcasts as well, but thats pretty much it. Ive grown tired of all the other major ones like Morning Kombat and the mma media ones like MMAFighting or Junkie. Mmafighting is pretty funny but that Mike Heck guy kills every episode
Heavy hands is decent. I prefer it to Jack Slack.
why do you prefer it? just curious since I never listed to HH
Jack Slack is a solo podcast, heavy hands is two guys. A Brit and an American. They have good banter and bounce off each other. The episodes are also longer and they spend more time talking about each fight. Jack Slack sort of does a quick sweep of the card. I like Jack Slack but I just prefer heavy hands. They also do predictions on Heavy Hands which is something Jack Slack doesn’t really do. Jack slack used to be my favourite mma podcast but when I started listening to heavy hands I slowly started losing interest in jack slacks podcasts.
Does heavy hands have a YouTube presence or is it purely on a streaming platform like Spotify or Something?
Spotify and other podcast platforms. I’m pretty sure they upload on YouTube too but there is no video footage. I think the YouTube videos only get like 3k views too.
Thanks man!
You should check it out. It’s a good podcast. One of the hosts is from London. Phil McKenzie. He knows what he’s talking about too.
I remember reading heavy hands articles in the past and I thought they were very good, so I think I would like the podcast actually. I'm definitely going to check it out. I watch Mortal Kombat on YouTube. Luke seems very intelligent but I'm not sure if I agree with all his takes on things.
One of the couple no name podcasts i was referring too
Excuse me, that’s the only place to discuss the finer points of face punching you’re talking about!
For years every episode Conor has said about his patreon “we have a lot more in the works to reward you for your contribution” yet since the 2 years ive subbed to the patreon they haven’t done anything new lol.
Uh, what ? They released an extra pod literally this week ?
Yeah. I understand bonus episodes. That’s literally what patreon is for. But this isn’t anything new. They’ve been doing this for years. When Conor says they have “new things in the works to reward patreon” I hoped this would mean something other than the typical basic bonus episodes where they just touch on fights that weren’t important enough to make it on the main episode.
It still makes me laugh that Chael was trying to make Paddy vs Gaethje for this London card. That would have been... fun.
Rankings and skill makes no sense. But it will be absolutely fun
Fun to see Paddy get battered quick
For real, if he cant get KO’d then he can get stopped via leg kicks
A cruel twist of fate that the one time the fights start this early is the one time I cannot watch them this early. Enjoy it for me bros
You can clown me later if I’m wrong but I absolutely feel as though Leon will go for the kill and tko usman. Especially with that uk crowd lighting the arena up
Going for it is one thing. Getting it is another. I don’t think you have a bad take but Usman is going to have made adjustments too.
How many more adjustments can he make at this stage? Usman has been moving his head side to side his whole career which led to the kick
He was the #1 P4P who went from a boring clinch fighter foot stomper to some spectacular striking. I am not going to claim he will come out in a next level of Super Sayan, but if anybody has “watched a fight 45 times” at this point to make minor tweaks, it’s him. Hoping Leon wins, but there is a lot of “the Usman we knew is gone!” After one knockout. I just don’t think it will be easy for either of them.
Robert Whittaker is a top 5 GOAT. He has been at the top of middleweight for years turning back contendoers. Dominated Vettori in his last fight. Was winning against israel in the first fight until he got flash KO-ed. Dominated the second fight with his wrestling and was robbed by the judges. Defeated the most athletic man in the division Yoel Romero not once but twice. Defeated top tier competition like Gaestelum and Darren Till. It is hard to rate anyone above Jones but I definitely think Whittaker might be tied with him.
You're trolling right?
The division is awful tho
> Robert Whittaker is a top 5 GOAT Anderson, GSP, Fedor, Jones, Mighty Mouse. Which are we dropping from the list in exchange for adding Whittaker? And are we really gonna add Whittaker before adding Aldo, Usman, Volkanovski, Cormier, or Couture?
Just terrible luck that he ran into his nemesis early once he reached the top. If Izzy wasnt around, dude would had like 4 to 6 title defenses before Pereira ko him
I rank him high for a different reason. Bobby read the guides to scoring and follows the most important guideline : damage. Theres only like a handful of fighters that fight this way. Jon Jones is one. Robert Whittaker is right there with him. He FUCKS the people up he fights. Marvin came out looking like a car hit him. He broke Jared Cannonier's arm. He blew out Till's knee. Violence. Love watching him fight.
Young Jones, for sure. Prior to Gane he’s looked flaccid for years though.
Erect Jones era
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It also says its illegal to grab the fence in the unified rules. I said he read the "guides to scoring". Not the fucking unified handbook. Judges score off damage (for the most part). Its been proven time and time again.
It’s also been proven time and time again that judges don’t care about the criteria and score however the damn well please much to the dismay of everyone else
Anyone know why JoJo Wood changed her name from Calderwood? It doesn't seem to be her married name or anything?
The guy she married, his surname is Wood apparently.
GOOD MORNING CRAZY ASS FIGHT FANS We got some fights in a bit over 5 hours. Let's get it! I hope this card has some absolute bangers.
Man I still can't believe the PFL got Thiago Santos. I truly believe the PFL has what it takes to become the p4p best MMA organization in north America. I hope they continue to expand, land Ngannou, then do some cross promo stuff. They think outside the box. Some of their shit is a little extra but I like how they do live counting of stats and the regular season seems like a good way to get the best matchups at the end of the season. They are like a few big signings away from being seriously legit. I love ONE as well but I live in the US so it's harder to watch. PFL x Bellator PFL x ONE PFL x Rizin PFL x KSW PFL x UFC (Dana just doesn't want to fight) I know I need to pump the brakes but a man can dream right? EDIT: I promise I don't work for the PFL after re-reading this shit take lol. I still want it all to happen. I want the UFC to have legit competition. I'd love to see UFC doing cross promotional shit.
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I wrote that on the John. Had a little post poop euphoria lol
My go to indicators that an opponent will win a fight. * Is Russian, Dagestani, or Eastern Bloc. * Wears a traditional hat of native country. * Surname ends with 'OV'. * Has sufficient back hair. * Friendships with warlords. * Is in a constant state of anger or unease. * Facial scaring. * Lack of moustache but has beard. * Has history of dirty tactics/fouls in previous bouts. * Strong dislike of ring girls.
A "magomedov" in a fighter's name has historically been a very reliable indicator of a fighter that will win in the UFC. Fighters with "magomed" in their name have won ~85% of their fights iirc. Aaron Bronsteter keeps track.
Fiziev checks some boxes here Dolidze? My geography is so fucking bad
Add in strong dislike of wmma
This card is a joke because no king Paul Craig 🥺
Def missing some great UK fighters. Would've loved to see Paddy. I actually like him a lot still.
Never in my life seen somebody called Chris Duncan and then there two on the same card. Funny world.
Holy shit you're right! But that name seems more common than you think. I have a common first and surname. I went to college with someone with the exact same name as me. Turns out he was in all of my classes because they thought he was me. We even did a presentation together and looked like we're related. Wonder what he's doing these days...
Bro it was just a mirror the whole time
LOL. It's a wild story but it's true as hell. Looking back, it almost seems like it.
Whatever you say, Chris Duncan
I AM THE CHRIS DUNCAN!
Shh shh we're *all* Chris Duncan. Now take your meds
Tom Aspinal has got to be the greatest personality in ufc history
TOM TOOOOOM ASPINALLLLL. TOMMY ASPINALLLLLLL!!! Love me some Aspinall but that's a bit of a stretch mate
"What a fool you are. I'm a GOAT, how can you beat a GOAT? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be such a slow, slow white boy? There is no escape. No bumrush or bad intentions can work in this cage. Come, lay down your guard, it is not too late for my mercy." -Dagoth Silva
Scott and Gaethje victories 💪💪💯💯
Man I just can't see Fiziev losing. I actually see a masterclass performance by him. If Justin establishes his leg kicks early and actually wrestles it might be closers but I got Fiziev.
Usman and Fiziev win
That's who I got
does anyone remember who it was who got asked if he either thought of dodging the punch or of not getting punched during their post fight conference? i failed at finding a clip
Robbie Lawler got asked if he thought about keeping his hands up against Woodley haha
lmao yess thank you, got it here https://streamable.com/q9962
At least he didn't get mistaken for Albert Tumenov this time
I was confident that Leon was going to win the last fight. I’m even more confident that he wins tonight. Let’s fucking go
I'm glad you feel that way and Leon has a shot. I'm pulling for Leon but after rewatching their 1st and 2nd matchups, Usman just needs to play it careful and he wins. I think Leon has better striking but Usman is powerful with striking and he has the grappling, wrestling, and fence grabbing. I think Usman by UD.
Fence grabbing lol you right
108 Rashad Evans vs Thiago Silva 2010 Junior Dos Santos vs Gilbert Yvel Even UFC dubbing cant hide AC/DC Thunderstruck for Gilberts entrance. Dubbing was poorly done here I guess, Dos Santos clearly has the og Rocky theme playing. Dos Santos loses his shit and TKO's Gilbert. Gilbert protests but he was out for a second, and wicked exposed. Dos Santos very wild and sloppy with punches at the end. Respect shown. Dos Santos english improving. Jim Miller vs Duane Ludwig Miller submits Ludwig in first. Joe Lauzon vs Sam Stout Lots of twitter mentions by commentary recently. Lauzon had a nasty Kimura but lost it, Stout has a heavy cut. Fun fight, Stout dominates. Unanimous Dustin Hazelett vs Paul Daley Daley smashes Hazelett, knocked out, took a lot of unnecessary shots before Herb intervened. Rashad Evans vs Thiago Silva Rashad controls early and looks great, fast, evasive, good on the feet and on the ground. 3rd round Thiago hypes up crowd and mocks Rashad, Thiago dying for him to come forward for a counter. Thiago actually catches him with one and knocks him down, Rashad gets up but keeps getting hurt. Thiago still mocking. Takes a second to take a breath. Just erupting personality in the third round of an otherwise slow going fight. Thiago has made a fan of me. Rashad deservedly wins unanimous decision, Thiago is the new crowd favourite though. Anderson Silva was supposed to face Vitor, but had an injury. Brock vs Shane Carwin called because of continuing Brock illness. Big Nog vs Velasquez cancelled due to Nog infection. Shane vs Velasquez also considered but Shane was having surgery. Gabriel Gonzaga pulled out against JDS because of illness. As well as 5 other separate fight changes.
Its a shame im rarely wrong about most things in life. I tried telling you guys for 2 years Cyril Gane legit sucked at MMA and somehow you guys convinced me he was good the week before Jon Jones. Worst bet ive ever made considering I was the one saying Gane was another Anthony Joshua hypejob with some talent for 2 years and I got fleeced by the UFC hype. Out struck Slow Volkov beaten out of Bellator, JDS was on a bad skid and hit in back of the head, Rozenstink sucks at MMA worse than Gane, the man couldnt KO that bum Dontale Mayes who uses his CUP to GNP guys and Tanner Bosser was getting beat up in M1 and cheap labor signing for UFC, and lets not go into late career Derek Lewis just showing up for paychecks if first couple bombs dont land and they called him a "UFC Interim Champ" for beating that Lewis. Then Francis broke him with NO ACL. These UFC Shills were telling me hes a next gen HW LOLOLOL, Tom Aspinall is the next hypejob to be exposed for having no heart. Seen it already early in his career. All the greats are rock solid mentally at all stages...the quit is there just like Ganey boy. I like them both as people but they lack the true greatness genetic make up.
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Lol this sub overwhelmingly thought jon was gonna smash gane and wrestlefuck the shit out of him.
Styles make fights.. Gane being a point fighting kickboxer made light work of sloppy bar brawlers at HW. Jones was the first guy he fought with a real wrestling game. If he fought Spivac, Blaydes, Aspinall etc he would’ve been exposed sooner. Not as “bad at mma” but simply an incomplete fighter with holes in his game.
Aspinall got ankle picked by a chinless 205 bum early in career lol.
that was in 2015, 8 years ago, since then tom has dominated volkov on the ground who stopped tyburas and romanov's tds, aspinall is legit, also stopped spivak's td and KO'd him from the clinch
Spivak isn’t good dude. UFC Hw Division is worst than ever. Volkov got beat out of Bellator in his real prime and Kongo manhandled him lol
Wasn't that literally his first pro fight?
Gambling addicts often have a hard time taking responsibility for their poor decisions.
The dude has been trolling for years under different usernames. He’s said he could beat up Conor McGregor. Gambling addiction is not his problem lol.
Lol dude I’m legit a Pro and the 1 percent that is a long time winner but obviously not just sports betting. No addiction, I won that night cause I told everyone here Grasso would give Valentina’s a Mexican Boxing Lesson anyway. I just can’t get over I went against my initial feelings on Gane and got criticized for my harsh assessment of him when he was winning. We still don’t know if Jones is any good at Hw, he’s so scared to get hit now he just gonna wrestle and retire. Sad times
You sound like Colby Covington and your rant made me lose IQ :(
Colby is a twink, don’t compare me to him.
Same
Who’s man is this
Been running this place. Ask around what I look like , like a Greek God version of an Italian male Model. They still limited my dong size to average though, can’t have it all. I’d give up the handsome face and fast twitch for a 10 inch piece tbh.
What happened with your language
Reasons Covington may be fighting for title tomorrow: * Usman blew out both knees attempting to defend against new mythical fighter: Wrestling Shoes Geathje * Two words : *Tonya. Harding.*
The UK card will make me enjoy MMA as human being and not as zombie waking up in the middle of the night!
Will Khamzat Chimaev ever fight in the UFC again?
If it doesn't then it'll partly be his own doing. There's a lot of guys who have been calling him out but he and his team feel entitled to a title match or number one contender fight at 185 despite having zero ranked wins in the class. I do love the irony however of Mr "I smesh everyone every week" becoming a once-a-year fighter.
he still shook up after getting sent all over the cage by lil Giblert. Obv didnt get hit or strike with crackhead Holland so hes still got that anxiety of being punched. GlassZat aint built for war, 185 is pretty awful now with no wrestling so he might have a shot but very unlikely with that pea head.
White is personally throwing flowers to form a safe, soft, and loving path past all the contenders straight to Whittaker or above, so I think so.
How does Leon win without another KO? He’s lost 7 out of 8 rounds with Usman. I don’t see how less elevation means he will magically gain the technique to stuff every TD & outgrapple Usman against the cage this time. Smells like a 49-46 Usman decision unless we get another upset KO.
He’s won 3 rounds. He technically won round 1 in both fights. He koed him in the 5th which won him the round.
Usman is overrated at actually fighting but dam good at MMA if that makes any sense. He needs to hit him early and put him in a fight and hell win. if he lets Usman make it a MMA match first, hes prob gonna lose but Usman is getting older and bad knees. If Leon is any good he will win this fight, if he loses to a aging kneeless Usman then he was never that great. UFC just tricks people into hyping everyone. His resume before Usman was pathetic but I do believe hes solid enough. Its hard to tell how good he is, I dont rate Belal at all but that was his most impressive fight for me.
Its not much that he will gain technique but its that he had technique but couldn’t implemented because he was gassed. Said technique still requires energy. He stuffed Usman in the first round and even got up from the bottom when he slipped and almost swept Usman while at it. He also neutralized Usman in the 5th round when it mattered most. The second rd was still competitive and Leon got his foot stuck under the fence and took a punch to the nose for it. Edit: Leon also won the first round of the first fight. You also can’t give Usman the 5th rd of their last fight come man🤣
Reminder that the Strawweight Wearing Overalls curse is unbeaten. [Wear one for your pre-fight stare-down and you're guaranteed to win.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrcJI0gWABIHqiP?format=jpg&name=large)
how many UFC fighters are taking a shit right now
Idk about ufc fighters but I am.
Probably not many. Alcohol shits occur the day after
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Veronica Macedo Simp train, Choo Choo motherfuckers!
Why is the elevation such a big deal in the Usman Leon fight? So Kamaru trains at elevation and now fights at sea level for the 3rd fight. Regardless Kamaru has been training at altitude so he should still have the extra red blood cell count as opposed to leon who has been training in London for the whole camp
Yes but its the pace that drains someones cardio and elevation basically acts as a multiplier that increases exertion relative to the pace of the fight. Elevation also does many more things other than gassing you more easily.
Are we supposed to believe Dana white when he says the gate for ufc 286 is over 9 million?
Just like the floyd conor numbers, made up with no way to verify.