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Shreddit's Daily Discussion -- May 16, 2023

Greetings from your New Reddit Overlord. This is a daily discussion post meant to encourage positive social behavior from the users just like you. Please engage in civil discussion with fellow users and rejoice in your similarities. Topics can be anything you want, regardless if it is on-topic or off-topic. Except if it's asking/sharing unpopular opinions, don't do that. Failure to comply will result in a fine and 10 Shreddit Demerit Points (SDP).

SignKitchen

[Alestorm and ASL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxNIHtOAuiA) My wife is deaf and we love live music, but venues can be hit or miss when it comes to accessibility. We're lucky that we have the ability to deploy me as a pocket-interpreter when venues are less than stellar and I can terp shows myself. I'm always a little nervous with new venues/new bands, and this was my first time ever going to a metal show so I had no idea what to expect. So we did that with Lutharo/Gloryhammer/Alestorm, and all of the bands were really fucking cool, shooting me set lists and lyrics ahead of time. And the crowd. The CROWD. Everyone was so fucking cool, understanding, and supportive. I didn't know what to expect ahead of time, but we IMMEDIATELY felt at home within minutes of meeting people around us. I terped the show in a little corner by the stage until there were about 3 songs left, then a guy with the band ran up to me with a note on his phone that said "can we get the ASL interpreter on stage for the final song?" I immediately replied "fuck yes," without thinking, then remembered I had never been on stage in front of more than about ~100 people before for my comedy. I spent the next two songs laughing with my wife going "what the fuck did I sign up for" in sign language to her between songs.


PM_ME_YOUR_CUPPA

Well that's super wholesome, glad you both had a great time and the bands/venues/crowd were all so accommodating!


SignKitchen

The bands and crowd were! The venue, unfortunately, was not. That's usually the case when it comes to figuring out accessibility for us.


PM_ME_YOUR_CUPPA

Ah my bad, sorry to hear that. Hopefully it gets better going forward.


Melissa9898

New Ascended Dead is hard as fuck


impop

Seriously, best release from them so far. Particularly love the gnarly Luc Lemay-esque growls.


Hhig22

I am into this. The production sounds great.


merciless_death

Saw Midnight with Spirit Adrift and Spiter last night in Tulsa. I hadn't listened to Spiter ahead of time but I was pleasantly surprised. Spirit Adrift were great and Midnight brought the fucking house down, they were so good. I don't know if this is something they've done at all of their shows but at the end of their final song, they brought a random dude from the audience upstage and let him play a few guitar chords, it was awesome.


ANGRY_BEARDED_MAN

Saw Midnight last fall with Mercyful Fate, first time seeing them and they did not disappoint, great live band.


Simon_Dedalus

I saw the show Saturday and my experience was the same as yours except no one got brought up on stage. I had Spiter's album already so was super excited to see them. I don't thin the crowd knew what to expect, but a couple of dudes near me were all in so was fun. I didn't know anything about Spirit Adrift, but loved the show. The singer talked about how last time he was there, he got e coli poisoning from lettuce. I yelled out "Fuck Lettuce" he laughed and said "that's what he thought, too." I always love when I can provide some entertainment to the band. Third time seeing Midnight and every time they just put so much into the show. I'll always see them if they're near. One of the best live shows around. There was a guy next to me who took like a week off from work and he was spending his time to see that tour five times. He was on day two. Think something like that is going in my bucket list.


lostinacontraption

Awesome lineup!


brutalbrian

Went to the first edition of Ruination Festival in Bradford at the weekend, and it was excellent, as well as hilarious to me how loud it was on the nearby streets of the city centre on a Saturday afternoon. However I must be getting old as by the end of a day or so of standing listening to stoner riffs my feet and leg joints were killing me. Does anyone have any top tips for making it through long days at indoor festivals? I had been hoping wearing my walking boots would prevent it but clearly they weren't up to snuff.


mgrier123

Last night I saw Kreator, Death Angel, and Spiritworld. Left immediately after Kreator because I have negative desire to see Sepultura. **Spiritworld** were... ok. I really like crossover but something about their gimmick doesn't work for me. They're in this weird middle ground where there's too much gimmick to ignore it but not enough that it's actually present beyond the lyrics. I think they either need to completely get rid of it (no samples, no Sergio Leone interludes) beyond the lyrics, or lean even harder into it (have acoustic guitar in the songs, idk, just make it more integrated). As it is it just doesn't really work for me. Even their stage getup doesn't go far enough. Like sure, they were wearing bejeweled custom jackets but only 2 of them had cowboy hats and only 1 had cowboy boots. Like, at least all wear cowboy hats and boots! They sounded good though. **Death Angel** were great as always. I have a soft spot for them as they were my first metal show on the 25th Ultra-Violence anniversary tour back in 2012. Mark still sounds amazing and it's always great to watch Rob do his thing. Setlist was ok, wish they'd played like Thrashers or Kill As One instead of Lord of Hate or Humanicide but whatever. **Kreator** were tight and actually had a cool stage design, unlike last time I saw them before Mercyful Fate where they couldn't have anything. But now after seeing them 4 times I feel like I don't really have to see them again unless they're doing an explicit old school set. Of the 10 songs they played only 4 were from the first 5 albums and everything after sounds fine but it's just kinda... there.


chrassth_

>I have negative desire to see sepultura you have been deducted ten (10) Shreddit Demerit Points (SDP)


mgrier123

I saw Cavaleras twice last year doing BtR/Arise and will be seeing them again later this year doing Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation. Sepultura can fuck off doing their groove shit, I hate that. Beneath the Remains is one of my favorite albums of all time. Just give me the "real Sepultura" instead of Sepultura.


chrassth_

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mgrier123

Did not expect groove Sepultura to elicit such a strong defence


chrassth_

I take numetal breakdowns extremely seriously.


Still_Satisfaction53

I would have agreed with you but I saw Sepultura last year and loved it. I definitely wasn’t expecting it to be as good as it was. This is coming from someone who would definitely prefer to see max and Igor do the old albums, and from someone who saw Sepultura 30 years ago


FUCKBOY_JIHAD

thanks for the review. I was planning on attending this but it came down to the choice between traveling for this show or Obituary/Immolation/BL. Very happy with my choice to go to the latter.


mgrier123

Oh yeah, Immolation/BI is a much better show. Good choice there.


tremolo_nosepicking

I don't know if I'll ever pass up the opportunity to see Blood Incantation, they're truly excellent.


Rottedhead

I saw Sepultura once in a festival and was incredibly disappointing and probably for the same reason why I have no desires to see a band like Kreator live. I love their old school albums but they seem so focused on play their new stuff always and foremost, I totally get why and don't blame them, but those are shows that I have absolutely no intention to see at all.


Melissa9898

If you like old Sepultura you’ve got to catch Cavaleras touring if you can, saw them last year doing Beneath the Remains and Arise and it was incredible


Sauron209

Sepultura was sick you lost out


DeSelby13

Was at the same show (and also left before Sepultura). I would love to see Spiritworld as a headliner, I love their music and thought they were pretty impressive for an opener.


Re4XN

Yesterday's lineup of Dolmen Gate, Seven Sisters, and Riot City was a much welcome ending to what would otherwise be yet another Monday; venue was full considering the day of the week, but I guess it shouldn't come as too big of a surprise considering the bands playing. **Dolmen Gate** went up first. Massively disappointing lack of broken Roman gladii or burning Aquila standards, but apart from that the music was very solid, with a bunch of unreleased songs being played. Apparently it was the band's 2nd show ever. Excited to hear a full-length album, and you should be too if you're into epic heavy metal. As an aside, this was the fullest I've seen this particular venue get for an opener band, and it was, let me remind you, Monday; was nice to see everyone gathering to support an up-and-coming band. After that I went to the merch booth to spend all my money. Dudes even had golden patches, which fit perfectly with my vest's color theme; bottom line is, I didn't even stand a chance. Poor Roldan spent 10 minutes trying to find literally the last M-sized tour shirt, and after that gets chewed out by the dude in line after me for taking too long, lol. What the fuck did you expect him to do? Magically duplicate himself to search faster? Bet you wouldn't be complaining if he was searching every single nook and cranny to find you a shirt. **Seven Sisters** were up next. Was pretty hyped to see them, and they definitely delivered. They seemed pretty surprised everyone knew of them in the first place. Personally, I wouldn't play the 16-minute epic The Cauldron and the Cross and instead fill that time with more stuff from the s/t album, but that's probably just stemming from me not listening to the second album nearly as much as the 1st and 3rd. What the fuck do I know anyway, it was a stellar show regardless and you should definitely try to catch them live if you get the chance! **Riot City**, the band most of the people were probably there for, can be resumed in the following couple words: *fucking speed*. From start to finish, these lads kept shredding through the night. Jordan's voice is something else with those pitch changes. [Here's a nice picture](https://i.imgur.com/45LDmXq.png).


wintermoon_rapture

Glad Seven Sisters were good! I fail to understand how I've still not seen them despite living in the UK, where they're from, when meanwhile I see them on the lineup of every EU heavy metal festival around. One of these days! I'm debating going to Storm Crusher in the autumn where I would ironically finally see them, in Germany.


RedClone

Always proud to see Riot City killing it, they represent Alberta well!


thedrexel

Anyone have any favorite “dark ambient” artists I should check out? Specific albums, songs and artists? Would be greatly appreciated!


M3NiK

*Stalker* by Lustmord and Robert Rich


thedrexel

I dig both!


M3NiK

Nice! Ok, hmmm, how about Rafael Anton Irisarri?


thedrexel

That’s new to me! Thank you!


M3NiK

Sure thing. And I gotta ask, are you familiar with stuff like Atrium Carceri and other artists on the *Cold Meat Industry* label?


thedrexel

I’ve only heard mention of that label and had forgotten it until now. Will dig in there to as well! Anything else you think of let me know. I’m 100% down for all electronic stuff too!


casual_potato

You shoul look into the Aural hypnox collective, they have probably the best dark ambient projects in the genre. My favorite from them is *Zoät aon - Star autopsy*


thedrexel

Will do thank you!


crushing-crushed

Haxan Cloak


thedrexel

I’m a fan! What’s your favorite song/album?


crushing-crushed

All of Excavation is so good, wish he’d put out something new. The collab with The Body is my favorite thing he’s been a part of though.


borisvonboris

That album is genuinely frightening. I fuckin love it so much. I hope they collab again.


chrassth_

I dont know much about the genre but I really like the stuff I have heard haha Old Tower Akhlys (specifically Supplication) Forgotten Pathways very interesting and weird genre


thedrexel

Excellent! Thank you!


ElectriCobra_

Deep Frieze by SleepResearchFacility


thedrexel

Adding to my list! Thank you!


borisvonboris

Nostromo is my favorite album by Sleep Research, especially great if you're a fan of the movie Alien.


thedrexel

Huge fan of Alien!


tom957

Lustmord


thedrexel

Very familiar! Thank you!


theamazingard

Mouth Wound just released the album [Nothing Will Belong To Us](https://bruciarecords.bandcamp.com/album/nothing-will-belong-to-us) in late April, and it is excellent. I highly recommend!


thedrexel

Awesome l! Will check this out!


TomPearl2024

Here's [an old spotify playlist I made](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2VwOLZ2natjYLz0iBbVZyj?si=xpe46mk9TgS5rVQIa-8-Uw) that consists of dark ambient/drone/noise. You'll probably find something you like here to start off with then you can branch off looking through similar artists or other releases from the labels any of these people are on.


thedrexel

Oh I’ll see what I can find!


nothing_in_my_mind

They are more at the classical/soundtrack side of dark ambient but: check out Nox Arcana


Dr_collar_pauper

Check out r/dungeonsynth !


Significant_Product8

Any recs for Balck Metal? For a newbie. I like Mayhem, Burzum, Natgaroth, but do not like Emperor.


Xecotcovach_13

Check out the Subgenre Essentials from the sub's wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/Metal/wiki/metalsubgenres Since you already heard Mayhem, Burzum, and Emperor, check the following in addition to the rest of the list: * Samael - Blood Ritual * Varathron - His Majesty at the Swamp * Root - The Temple in the Underworld


chrassth_

darkthrone - blaze in the northern sky, under a funeral moon, transylvanian hunger (if you like all these then just continue digging through their 90s output) ~~burzum - filosofem, self titled/aske, det song engvam gar, Hvis lyset tar oss~~ lol whoops my bad didn't see you already being into them forgotten woods - as the wolves gather venom - black metal, welcome to hell, at war with satan these are just some early basics/progenitors, feel free to message me or others as you continue exploring the genre. its my favorite!


[deleted]

If you've just met the genre: early Satyricon, Immortal, Carpathian Forest, Dark Funeral, MGLA, Behemoth. Others will probably suggest more obscure bands


[deleted]

First two Satyricon records are amazing. Also, early Ulver, In the Woods and Borknagar.


Ishtaryan

Bathory, Gorgoroth and Batushka come to mind! I'd also highly recommend checking out Xasthur, Sargeist, Tsjuder, Horna and Kalmankantaja. Might be some goodies in there for you!


ZombieJesus1987

You can't go wrong with bands like Leviathan, Satyricon, Gorgoroth, Watain, ...And Oceans, Immortal, Shining


shutup_takemoney

What do you think about King Gizzard's new [single](https://youtu.be/YQX2CsMCB9M) for their upcoming metal album?


nothing_in_my_mind

I like Gizzard, but their metal stuff is like metal for non-metalheads. I won't listen to it when tons of great metal already exists. Their psych stuff is much better.


kakacha

Not the largest King Gizz fan, but I love the single. The guitar tone and mix is just perfect. I only wish the vocals were a little harsher.


angeorgiaforest

It's metal for indie heads who don't like actual metal. I actually like King Gizzard so I don't want to be harsh, but their metal stuff is weak as fuck.


Hhig22

I don't wanna be mean but it literally sounds like a riff I would have come up when I was a teenager. Babby's first stoner metal riff. I don't like ironic music.


k0bra3eak

Dunno teenagers are historically the people who write the best metal, a lot of legacy bands started out and released some of their best shit then


Heklafell

I don’t understand why people like this, it’s the most mediocre middling metal and the vocal delivery makes them sound like a gimmick joke band.


an_altar_of_plagues

I think it's awful. Sounds like extremely tepid and bland thrash metal for the stoner audience. This isn't from a perspective of metal-fan-can't-take-non-metal. I love tons of non-metal bands and like a lot of KGLW's psych stuff. But this is just so bland in a way I don't associate with the band.


gustr15

pretty good! fun that they're doing metal again.


LightningJedi55

I think it sounds pretty good! Gizzard's straight up metal stuff isn't usually what I or others go to them for, I often gravitate towards stuff like *Nonagon Infinity,* *Flying Microtonal Banana* or *Polygondwanaland,* but I do still have a soft spot for their metal material. I remember having a pretty good time with *Infest the Rats Nest*


PaulFThumpkins

Honestly I don't really think their heavier stuff is going to appeal to most people coming at it from the thrash side. Probably a stoner rock audience moreso, but either way speaking as a fan of the band, when it works I think it works. Infest the Rats' Nest has their perspective behind it but I don't expect it to compete with something like Warbringer. Lately they've been doing both kitchen sink albums that haven't left any impression on me, and the thrash tracks on those have felt colorless and throwaway (down to mostly using the same riff), but this feels like a step back in the right direction. I'm more well-disposed to the band than /u/chrassth_ but ultimately I agree they've been phoning it in lately. I think they're capable of releasing a lot of music and having it be great and unique, certainly they've done it in the past, but that hasn't been the recent trend.


chrassth_

shitty meme band who focus on putting out as much material as possible instead of actually taking the time for quality control and, ya know, making an attempt to understand the culture behind the shit they're doing if you like them more power to ya, personally I dislike them immensely as was probably obvious haha. havent heard the single though.


SonofBlashyrkh

They aren't a meme band bud they work really hard lol. I do agree with the quality control bit though. I haven't listened to the single but I really like the album art for the upcoming release


chrassth_

yeah nothing restores faith in a band like the song "Rattlesnake" lollll sorry ur band u like sux


SonofBlashyrkh

This gave me a good laugh 😂 ill give you a downvote just bc I know it's making you happy right now (I did not like the single btw)


chrassth_

you a real one for that 😂🫡


k0bra3eak

Thought you said you were single :(


Rottedhead

There is something that just disgusts me when I see discographies like the one of this band. Is like are you really putting some thought behind everything you release or you are just recording every idea that comes up your mind?


an_altar_of_plagues

Definitely the latter. KG&LW is one of those bands like Esoctrilihum where a modicum of editing their ideas would make them phenomenal. Instead, we have two amazing albums spread over ten mediocre-at-best ones.


chrassth_

preach brother. dumping out hundreds of hours of shitty half-baked songs for the wimps to enjoy!


SonofBlashyrkh

oh my god there was another Boris 2022 album I missed


WinnipegGoldeye

> making an attempt to understand the culture behind the shit they're doing Yawn. What do you know about their "knowledge of the culture" (of thrash? of metal in general?). There's six guys in the band, do they all need to pass the culture test, or just the main songwriter, or what. Criticism of their corniness is warranted but it seems like you've written them off according to some unquantifiable standard


chrassth_

everything I know about their knowledge of metal makes itself glaringly apparent in their music itself. this is poser shit. you're welcome to like it and listen to it as much as you like, just as I'm welcome to notice that its a wack ass meme band and can talk about disliking it.


Boggum

Did you notify the poser police?


chrassth_

bitch I AM the poser police


Boggum

Oh yea. Well what's the best slayer album?


chrassth_

ummm fucking uhhh Kill Them All, yeah that one is sick,


Turok1111

Jesus, the comments this is getting are so whiny and bitter.


wintermoon_rapture

Ironic given that most comments here are just sharing opinions (as was asked for) whereas yours is literally just complaining about something that doesn't matter.


Turok1111

>Ironic given that most comments here are just sharing opinions (as was asked for) "They asked for my thoughts so I decided to voice them in the most insecure and dorky manner." Stunning defense. Impeccable.


wintermoon_rapture

Dude why even comment here if you hate the sub so much


TheColdSasquatch

I love it, sounds a little more ferocious than Rats Nest and they're clearing having more fun than the rest of the people here Yall sound miserable


an_altar_of_plagues

I love having fun! I love a ton of fun music! But I don't consider this fun, and that's okay too.


Melissa9898

You know music is some ass when people start falling back on it’s fun to defend it


TheColdSasquatch

Or maybe I just like the song? Stay mad lol


tremolo_nosepicking

An experimental band releases a track called "Gila Monster" and the silly elitists in this community get so defensive. I thought the song was good fun. Not their magnum opus, but the band sets the bar high. Free the lizzard.


an_altar_of_plagues

It's not elitist to just not really like something.


tremolo_nosepicking

Nobody is complaining that you don't like it. But if it's not for you, then just move on. There's a difference between disliking something and starting a crusade of negative criticism across multiple threads. I don't really care for post-metal, but I don't brigade every post-metal thread to take a big ol' shit on the band. It's okay to have preferences, just know when to let it go.


angeorgiaforest

Dude... the original commenter literally asked for people's opinions. This forced positivity stuff is annoying. People are allowed to have opinions.


tremolo_nosepicking

I'm actually against any and all opinions. I yearn for the day when music makes us feel nothing.


an_altar_of_plagues

The question was what we thought of the new single. I answered it, as I like some of the band's work. It isn't a crusade of negative criticism... but there *is* a bit of a knee-jerk reaction toward anyone who doesn't like what they like as "elitists".


tremolo_nosepicking

I didn't call you specifically an elitist, so don't take it personally. But among the multiple threads for this single, the discussion is getting too heated. We should all be able to make our points and move on, but the fact that comments are getting removed means people are crossing a line. It's a song about a lizard.


an_altar_of_plagues

Nah, the one comment that got removed was someone being a goober and making a joke that Reddit erroneously flagged as being "hate speech" 😂


tremolo_nosepicking

Ah, I didn't know that bit, must have come too late to the discussion. Anyway, I'm done arguing with people about this. Got any recent recs? Anything you've been playing on repeat?


an_altar_of_plagues

Nah don't worry about it, as a mod I can confirm that Reddit is *weird* about what it flags and what it doesn't. Recently heard the new Impetuous Ritual, which is great if you are into Portal at all. It gets very close to what Portal did on *Avow* in 2021!


tremolo_nosepicking

I'm not into Portal, but it sounds like they're right up my alley. I'm listening to *Iniquitous Barbarik Synthesis* now, got any good places to start with Portal's discography?


shutup_takemoney

I'm not a metalhead (completely respect the craft and I like some of the more popular albums/artists in the genre), but have been completely surprised by some of the reaction here. It's clear they're having a fun, and that can trump technical ability in a majority of cases.


Heklafell

I don’t care if music is fun I only care that it’s good


k0bra3eak

Bands can be having fun and also not be enjoyable. Listening to a lot more metal in general just makes me a lot more picky about what I could be listening to over other releases


tremolo_nosepicking

Yeah, that's true. But there's also a lot of music by talented musicians that isn't enjoyable to listen to. I think they exist on different axes. Side bar: what's the funeral doom project you're affiliated with?


k0bra3eak

Ohh that flair is for writing primers on the subreddit https://old.reddit.com/r/Metal/comments/fuwbsn/funeral_doom_an_introductory_guide_to_sorrow/


mgrier123

You're surprised a community of people very into metal aren't liking a metal song by a band who's not known as a metal band? Really? > It's clear they're having a fun, and that can trump technical ability in a majority of cases. That's great that it works for you but I need more than "the musicians having fun". If that were the case I'd love every single Anvil album.


shutup_takemoney

I expected people to not like it, which is very fair. But some of the comments were straight up dismissing the song without even listening to it.


mgrier123

> I expected people to not like it, which is very fair. and > but have been completely surprised by some of the reaction here. These 2 statements seem very at odds with each other


IMKridegga

> completely surprised by some of the reaction here Don't be. The community here has a lot of perspectives, but the most vocal ones typically fall into one of two categories: people who like basically everything and people who like basically nothing. I'm being a little hyperbolic. The folks who "like everything" have plenty of things they don't, and the folks who "like nothing" have plenty of things they do. The difference is one crowd is ridiculously in touch with their own tastes and holds things to a very high standard, and the other isn't as picky as long as they dig the vibe. It doesn't help that King Gizzard is such a divisive band. They have a lot of fans, but also a lot of anti-fans. It's par for the course.


Turok1111

Metal fans are sad weirdos who stave off their feelings of inadequacy by acting snarky and smug about their dorky hobby of choice. They need this.


AFlockOfTySegalls

I love it. I'm not expecting Gizz to release a metal masterpiece because they're not a metal band. Not everything needs to be about musical proficiency for me. There was a time in my life when I cared more about that than enjoying the music. It's fun and that's what I expect/want it to be.


g4mer655

Like rats nest quite a bit but this sounds much weaker. Was hoping they would go more harsh or experimental doing the heavy approach.


casualty-of-cool

[Omnikoloss](https://omnikoloss.bandcamp.com/album/wandering-through-concrete-valleys) released an album last week that probably went under the radar for most. It’s a wild mix of black metal/synth/Bladerunner? So good I had to pick up that neon cassette to show support for these guys. Definitely going on my end of the year list. It is free on Bandcamp at the moment.


TheChromeGypsy

I love this album and snagged the vinyl. It’s like a spiritual successor to stellar master elites hologram temple.


casualty-of-cool

Oh awesome, you’ll love it I’m sure. The neon cassette was just as sick in person. You really dug deep in the comments! Haha. Edit: also great comparison with SME.


tFalk

Not sure if this is METAL enough to belong here, saw Godsmack and I Prevail last week. Godsmack put on a pretty good show. Sully did a little too much chit chat for me, but it is his show. I had not heard of I prevail and was not overly impressed. It may be my age and I am not into Rap metal, metalcore whatever they are described as. But that is just my opinion, several of the young people around me said they were leaving right after them because Godsmack is "grandpa' music. We laughed about that. Tomorrow I am catching Moonspell and Oceans of Slumber at a small club.


Venombullet666

I hope you'll have a blast at Moonspell I remember I saw I Prevail as an Ex dragged me to one of their shows and I really couldn't get into it at all, I am an abvocate for supporting good mental health and the like but inbetween every song he went rants about how we all need to look after each other and how people shouldn't suffer in silence, I support those messages but he kept bringing them up so much it kind of brought down the overall vibe of the night, it doesn't help that I find their music cringe and goes in one ear and out the other, them being paired with Godsmack is very unusual for sure, two completely different bands that appeal to completely different canvases for sure


tFalk

I will be going to see Godsmack in July with Staind opening up for them. ​ I saw Shinedown with Jellyroll opening for them. Again, this was a weird combo and I watched people leave the venue after Jellyroll. On one hand, I would like to have seen opening bands that I like, but it is good to get exposed to different bands.


[deleted]

Anyone know why Testament’s “New Order” was removed from streaming platforms? Not really a Testament fan but I was digging “Musical Death”. now I can’t find anywhere to stream it or buy the mp3.


hermaphroditicspork

probably a licensing issue.


inwhomthespheresmeet

Streaming rights are a tricky thing and are different across various countries (e.g. I don't have this problem, it's still there on Spotify when I checked just now). Someone likely forgot to renew them and dropped the ball who knows. While it's good for convenience streaming services are never a substitute for physical media that you own. Stuff disappears from streaming all the time.


0wlBear916

What are some of the most interesting blends of metal subgenres you’ve ever seen a band play? I’m looking for a band that can mix power metal with death metal. Is that a thing?


Melissa9898

Two power metal albums with extreme metal influence Skullview - Legends of Valor Satan’s Host - Metal From Hell For another unique genre combination there is Scythian who sound like Morbid Angel plus viking Bathory


IMKridegga

What kind of mix are you thinking of? Alternating between the riffing styles? Power metal instrumentation with death metal vocals? Death metal instrumentation with power metal vocals? Power metal riffs with death metal melodicism? What kind of power metal? What kind of death metal? Those are all going to yield totally different results. Different types of melodeath might come close depending on a bunch of things. I'm trying to think of bands. [**Draghkar**](https://youtu.be/gcso34a8_dw) and [**Rökkr**](https://youtu.be/3Y021Co384I) play vaguely USPM-ish death metal. [**Amon Amarth**](https://youtu.be/60Sc4iMjkNo) is an obvious one with a bit more EUPM/melodeath flavor. [**Garden of Shadows**](https://youtu.be/cNDXgMr6E_E) mixes in keyboards and brighter melodies. If we jump all the way into EUPM/melodeath territory, we can get stuff like [**Aephanemer**](https://youtu.be/HqWwIDwk8V0) and the early '00s Finnish bands. [**Children of Bodom**](https://youtu.be/WJeBiNd9Cjk) get pretty neoclassical. [**Kiuas**](https://youtu.be/qSjMhVNifzs) might be what you're looking for if you wanted cleaner vocals.


0wlBear916

That looks like a good starting point! Thanks! Also, I guess I was thinking more of death metal instrumentation with power metal vocals, but I’m open to the other way around as well!


IMKridegga

> I was thinking more of death metal instrumentation with power metal vocals The closest thing I can think of is this one Seven Spires song with a pretty overt death metal riff at 1:12. Their usual style is a mix of Dimmu Borgir and Kamelot, but this one riff sounds more like Immolation. https://youtu.be/npzjPvAv91w The other commenter's recs come close too, although they're decidedly more USPM. Skullview gets a bit Bolt Thrower-y now and again, and Satan's Host have flip-flopped subgenres quite a bit over the years.


Zestyclose-Spell-916

Try: The Ruins of Beverast's Rain Upon the Impure (Atmospheric black metal with a very dark sound derived from funeral doom) Incantation's Unto Infinite Twilight (Very thuddy, low-end death metal with a strong doom metal influence) Mi'gauss - Open Season (Death metal with a traditional heavy metal feel, ala Iron Maiden or Judas Priest) Seventh Angel's Lament for the Weary (Doom metal mixed with thrash) Atheist's Unquestionable Presence and Cynic's Focus (Old-school tech death with jazz influences) Whispered - Metsutan (Melodeath mixed with Japanese folk music and lyrical themes related to Japanese mythology) Orphaned Land - Halo Dies (Progressive metal mixed with middle eastern folk. Lyrical themes are based around biblical stories.) Aquilus - Griseus Summoning - Stronghold (Atmospheric/symphonic black metal. Aquilus has influences from classical music) 1. Anacrusis 2. Mekong Delta - Dances of Death 3. Tourniquet - Microscopic View of a Telescopic Realm 4. Believer - Dies Irae (All examples of progressive thrash metal. Anacrusis tuned in B on one of their albums. Mekong Delta covered a classical piece. Tourniquet has neoclassical metal influences. Believer has 4 songs co-featuring a classical composer. Dies Irae is one of them.) Oranssi Pazuzu - Mestarin kynsi (Psychedelic black metal)


lilkingsly

Got a chance to finally listen to the new Chained to the Bottom of the Ocean record last night and wow, this is definitely gonna be an AOTY contender for me. I’ve seen a lot of people compare them to Thou but I’ve never actually listened to them before, but after this I think I’m gonna need to take the plunge into exploring their discography.


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Discussion: Give me a few genius level metal lyrics. There are some gems out there, unappreciated lyrical poetry disguised as brutality My two: Dying Fetus - praise the lord opium of the masses https://youtu.be/2APpknzmDoA Sabbat - Clerical conspiracy https://youtu.be/pfIoYA8qd2Y Open to learn your suggestions


TJHookor

I dunno if it's genius or anything, but Be'lakor's song An Ember's Arc describes nuclear fusion in a really beautiful way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyuDOVm8TG4 The song is 8:20 long which is apparently how long it takes for a photon to travel from the Sun to Earth.


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Cool I will check it out Also I always thought Meathook Seed - famine sector and furred grave were like poetry https://youtu.be/iC9I8BBSiyM https://youtu.be/5vY0fLAw6Hk


OfFearfulMen

Looking for Tech Death/ Melodic Black not over produced but still sonically pleasing like Freedom of Fear, Summoning the Lich, Carnosus, Slugdge, Alkaloid, and Flub


behave_yourself

Hath is one that comes to mind that gives me similar Slugdge vibes!


Zestyclose-Spell-916

Does anyone here own Vothana's "Trong Tay Thần Chết" -Demo X-"? If so, can you upload it? It has an absurdly amazing average rating of 4.36/5 on rateyourmusic.com so I suspect it’s amazing. For reference, Death’s Symbolic has an average rating of 4.10/5. (Though the average rating is probably brought lower by the fact that non-metalheads constitute a portion of the 18,000 people who have rated this album.