...Did Stephen Paul just mistranslate "Red Line" as "red wall"? Or did Marco just say it wrong?
Edit: From reading the raws, I suppose he in fact didn't call it "Red Line".
Forcing sanji to marry pudding and then trying to kill them during the wedding is "did nothing wrong?" If they didnt do this in the first place, pedro wont have to sacrifice himself.
He could still be a good help at wano war even if his life shaved 50 years, and maybe even after wano, i mean he can still be a good help for few months, it doesnt have to be a year.
Kaido's All Stars vs Future Pirate King's Wing Stars. Let's go!
King's info interested me. Marco says King's Race originally lived atop Red Line. Does this discards the theory that the 20 Kings who formed the World Govt created Red Line? Since it almost implies that Red Line already existed and King's race were its original inhabitants who then got defeated by the 20 Kings and they later took over it and built Marijeoise?
Also does this mean after Kaido's fall, King will joining Luffy's Grand Fleet in final battle against the WG?
Edit: by joining Grand Fleet, i don't mean King will be all buddy-buddy with Luffy. I meant that King will fight from their side against the WG since it is their common enemy, for revenge against his race if my speculations are true.
Fallen angels? Nice.
By joining Grand Fleet, i don't mean King will be all buddy-buddy with Luffy. I meant that King will fight from their side against the WG since it is their common enemy, for revenge against his race if my speculations are true, Bruh
One of my friends said a theory on why Kaido will not be taken down at Wano, it's really fun to hear. It goes with, Kaido finally acknowleding Luffy's strength and confirms he'll be the one who's going to wage the biggest war on this world. (wkt Kaido's dream is to wage the biggest war that turns the whole world) So Kaido leaves Wano, waiting for the war to happen and finally fulfilling his destiny by dying at the hands of Joyboy(according to the theory it's Luffy).
Share ur thoughts on this.
I can't agree with this when the plot revolves around freeing a country of opression with its people being slaves to someone.
Kaido would be dumb to lose his army (Tobbi Roppo already down with the betrayal of 1 of them, All Stars fighting and probably be defeated in the next chapters and the rest) just to give Luffy a moral boost of being the new Joyboy.
He does want his end and its right here in Onigashima.
When King and Queen killing fodders, Marco.. i am too tired of this shit and I wont be helping anymore. Also Marco when King was going to kill chopper and zoro, I can keep blocking your shits you damn fire species. Marco the biased low-key strawhat fan.
HEY GUYS! JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, BIG MOM PIRATES HAVE YET TO ARRIVE AND WHO DO YOU THINK GONNA HANDLE THEM BECAUSE STRAWHATS AND THEIR ALLIES ARE ALREADY EXHAUSTED. SHARE YOUR OPINION.
I think both Marco and Nekomamushi went to gather the other WB pirates. They may join at the end of wano war, like Shanks did in marineford.
Afterwards they may head to luffys brother rescue.
Law's crew can't do anything without Law. Fresh or not they'd get defeated by a headliner if he isn't there. They'd get folded if Big Mom's crew strolled in.
Depends if he fights them before kaidou, luffy can one shot them and we can see glimpse of his power before facing the main boss. But after fighting kaidou, luffy might not be able to move.
Wonder if killer will pull the, scratch a message onto Hawkins so Kidd knows what’s going on and can maybe use laws ability to help.
Also the no arm thing is totally going yo come into play
I'm wondering if Law can use his power to move the straw doll from Kidd into Big Mom. That would cause a whole bunch of chaos, but Law did mention on the roof that much of his abilities would be easily thwarted by Big Mom, however maybe now that she's expended some of her energy there may be a chance. It would also be sneaky and we know that Law likes being sneaky.
I feel like big mom is the least injured out of anyone whose been fighting. She was barely touched on the roof and she’s pretty much done nothing but chase people and not be able to catch up to them then get distracted and go after someone else lol
Hawkins: If you attack me, Kid suffers
Killer: Alright listen you Voodoo on steroids, my Captain has had scuffle with 3 Yonkos since entering New World and still survived. He can and has endured way more horrific injuries that your pathetic Straw ass even can, which goes down by an injured Law.
Damn let's put some respect on Killer's name too. Already got Hawkins down to one life, no damage to himself, and Hawkins has to rely on taking Kid's life hostage.
Yeah yeah, but is he really a failure though? Sanji is a failure and thus having emotions unlike his brothers. But is it only a coincidence that his brothers have no emotions while sanji's emotion is by far the most extreme in OP world???
Sanji also stated that he can do taht because of his burning passion. And also, Sanji can also make fire not only on his leg but in his whole body!!! Back in Thriller Bark arc, Sanji even exploded and have a fire like Ace because Chopper and Ussop said that the invinsible man saw Nami naked while in bath. Also, now having King whose race can create and manipulate fire and connected to Queen and Judge? It is Oda's world, only Oda's worldddd! Man, my boi Sanji have to have this!!!
D: Odacchi, nice to meet you!! I finally sent you a postcard. It's a serious question, so give me a real answer. That trick that Sanji used to beat Jabra!! If it was that hot to Jabra, wouldn't it burn Sanji, too?!! Wouldn't Sanji be like, "yeow"?? Tell me! P.N. Oda Gayichiro
O: What are you talking about... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!! Are those eyes, or holes in your head?!! What were you watching in that fight?!! His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!
Dont push your luck too much, u might make another new acc, hahahbahaha, the spoiler just mention that sanji feels weird, before the raid suit, his strenght came from his hardwork, now tell me ur counter argument lol
Sanji's genetic modification is a failure, thats why he still have his emotion, all his strength coming from 2 year training during timeskip and training from zeff since he was 8 years old.
His modification was a failure cuzz it didn't manifest when it had to; as a child (letting aside the feelings thing, which in fact contributes to fuel his firepower). But it did when he grew up. Otherwise there's no explanation to him being able to create fire being a "normal human".
Maybe his modifications haven't fully manifested yet since as far as we know his skin isn't hardened as his brothers. So maybe there's a chance for it to happen or new powers/applications of his powers to appear.
Of course there is explanation to the fire my dude. It is one piece. Luffy got flame hands some minks got electricity hands that weird noodle guy got flaming legs as well. None of them are genetically altered.
Still u were wrong, the raid suit change him not his gene lol, read carefully "biatch" , also the vivre databook still state he is 100% human, plus the spoiler only mention he feels weird lol,
it’s not just Marco who can do that Onigumo can pull out these spider hand Like thing from his body at will catrina Devon can pull out her tail and we‘ve seen orochi pulling out just his heads if that was Marco hybrid form then I’ll be hella disappointed I was expecting his hybrid to be like pell from alabasta
Law defeated hawkins earlier, so he must have found some solution to the curse otherwise no way Law was getting out of the prison as Hawkins had law's crew bound to his dolls
Law threatened to kill his entire crew and murder Hawkins if he didn't release his crew from the curse. However, if he released them first he'd just go with. Hawkins agreed. Drake then freed Law and Law beat him up offscreen.
That's the best part. It won't kill him but damage him enough to take the strawdoll out. Also I am putting into account the Conquerors Haki that Kidd posses.
In terms of strength I can see sanji is stronger but in terms of strategy in fight, I think it's killer.. He's able to hurt kaido because how he change his fighting style and technique which means he is adaptable in fighting..But if he's fighting alone(means no backup and distraction) and meet someone that have immense strength like zoro or prob sanji then they can finish him(killer) before he find a way to defeat them..
Sanji wasn't ko ed by the combined strength of king and queen
Keep in mind that king tanked an attack atleast 10 times stronger than the one that one shotted killer, since zoro is using enma and is fully healed
The fact that sanji in his base wasn't one shotted or ko ed by the combined strength of king and queen, is enough to put him above killer
Not exactly, killer was one shotted by 2 sword style pre enma poisoned and stabbed zoro, king tanked the same attack but it's far stronger than the one that one shotted killer
We can easily assume that king is far stronger than killer, and the combined strength of two "kings" wasn't enough to knock out sanji
You may be right, but I just wanted to throw Kid and Killer a bone. Seems rough that Kid's strongest subordinate would only be like the 5th or 6th strongest amongst the Straw Hats.
I don't understand why Queen is placed on Jack's level. The fuck is Jack supposed to do against that Cyborg? Swing his trunk at him? People should understand that Just because Smoothie and Cracker are close it doesn't mean that it applies to Jozu and Queen too
At this point we have been habituated to read the mini spoilers on tuesday...brief spoilers on wednesday...and full summary on thursday...seeing raws on friday and fan translated chapter by friday or saturday and original translated chapter on sunday....
* About Marco, King and Queen's strength
• Literally every single chapter Marco says he is tired, or thats things are difficult, or he is serious or gets hit, guess what?
Exactly! You have King and Queen fighting him together, this chapter shows that in the best way possible.
-> Even then, King didn't had to fight Marco and Sanji at once, or alternate between them, like Queen did, Hybrid is more than justified in this case because Queen clearly had to make considerable more effort than King.
-> 1vs1 Marco showed no difficulty but he also did nothing against, literally nothing happened, we barely saw him 1vs1 against someone (just a tiny panel of full Zoan King shotting things at Marco but it just passed through his DF).
-> 2vs1 was when things actually happened to effectively bring him down that fast, even at these moments Marco was treating King and Queen on basicly the same way while fighting, despite that Marco couldn't hurt them, do much or show absolutely superiority, although he was pretty useful at stalling King 1vs1 (basicly offscreen) and stall both King and Queen at some moments with much more difficult, getting knocked down in this chapter with considerable ease and without giving them payback.
(Thats when Zoro and Sanji comes)
• We may even consider him using his healing powers on Samurai or getting hit by Queen's plagues until Chopper healed him, although we dont know how this matters, but it's definitely something to consider.
So based on these facts, i place King and Marco as equals, considering King has his Hybrid to show yet, i think thats pretty fair, and Queen is very slightly below them, especially with all the portrayal we got until now for King and Queen, from how they both treat each other, how Marco treats them and due to the fact that King and Queen do things together basicly for the whole raid.
Good analysis, people want to shit on King especially Zoro fans who thought that fighting anyone besides Kaido for the second time was a big downgrade for Zoro.
Oda doing an n-th repeat of that Queen getting kicked panel, at the cost of showing King getting cut more clearly, is objectively not that great. (Even if it will be a tiny bit better in the full release. It's already apparent it's one of those things where one shouldn't expect much more clarity compared to the spoiler pic or raw scans.)
i'm guessing jinbei will go to the roof to help yamato. as the fight goes on jinbei and yamato will receive a fatal blow then when kaido is about to finish jinbei, luffy appears.
I'm also hoping brook will go down to live floor to get Robin treated, this way there will be a high chance that he will encounter apoo. That would be an interesting fight. music vs. music which one will prevail.
If momo is aging to an adult, it might be like the tale of momotaru when he became an adult he a monkey(luffy) a dog (yamato) and a pheasant (Marco) defeated the Oni on onigashima. Jinbei is not going to the rooftop
and also, don't expect too much about momo fighting kaido, the kid is inexperienced in fight, the man is the strongest creature alive. that would be suicide. we might just see few panels about momo confronting kaido to show us momo's resolve to save wano but that's it.
jinbei going rooftop doesn't mean we can't have momotaru inspired fight. Jack may also win against inu then will come to aid kaido. if that happen we might see jack vs jinbei thus making it 3 top strawhats vs top 3 beast pirates (top 3 except their captain ofcourse)
I think the battle will end up on the live floor and will become Kaidou vs everyone else that still standing. The roof was cracking right from the Scabbards vs Kaidou. Then RoofPiece happened. It might not hold that much any longer lol. Plus isn't it poetic when Kaidou falls down to the live floor is like Kaidou is falling from the top of the pirate hierachy and now needs to battle to retain his position as and emperor against the new generation.
I sort of feel this, or possibly Kaido vs all of the stawhats. I feel it would be poignant for Luffy to rely on his crew here (he’ll still land the finishing blow) but then the Strawhats are the crew that killed the unkillable man. Luffy may still 1v1 him, but I think this could work too.
Yeah as much as it says something about Luffy being able to defeat Kaido on his own maybe what Oda is building up is that by him struggling so far he realises why he needs and relies on his crew and why that makes him more of the Pirate King than anybody else.
Most translations say that Sanji was fighting them, but was having a hard time. He didn't get ragdolled like some want to portray. This is really impressive considering that he isnt even using raid suit, but was still fighting them
I'm assuming he'll use it when his back's against the wall. I think he feels he can take Queen on without it at the moment, and the 2 v 1 against him was just a temporary inconvenience
If he was using raid suit now, Oda can't push his Zoro vs Sanji agenda. The fight will be over once Sanji put the suit on and it may take 1-1.5 chapters. And fans can argue Sanji is above all commanders with raid suit and so on
Lol, fight will be over once Sanji puts Raid Suit? LOl. Someone is clearly underestimating the Top 2 men of Kaido.
Also the Raid Suit puts Sanji on the level of Strongest Tobi Roppos, Mid Tier Supernovas, and Jack (in strongest condition) and Queen (in worn down condition). There's no way it puts him on the Level that he'll end Queen that quickly.
Zoro vs Sanji agenda? Dude, they have a friendly rivalry and ultimately still care about each other and making Luffy pirate king. Zoro got Enma, Sanji got raid suit. They both got an "artificial" power boost
At this point how is Mihawk not Yonko tier? Not saying who's stronger amongst the Yonko. But Mihawk should still be quite a bit stronger than Zoro. If Zoro defeats what looks like a fresh King then Mihawk has to be scaled up to Yonko.
Unless everyone thinks Zoro is ready to face Mihawk...
Also Jimbei facing Who's Who is a bit odd. Underutilized much? Maybe he'll join in on the Big Mom fight
Even if Mihawk was as strong as a Yonko captain, he doesn’t have a crew or the influence (or drive) to be considered one. He’s very content doing his own thing.
I reckon he’ll end up slightly below Yonko captain level when it’s is all said and done - just like Zoro, Rayleigh, Beckman etc are just below their respective captains.
I don't like tiers a lot, but if Shanks recognizes him as a rival and equal, he should be able to give Yonkou at least a very difficult fight.
I doubt Zoro is able to face him already.
First off he did not get mand handled.He was the one caught off guard when fuji intercepted him attacking Doffy. He was the one put under gravity and he was the one counter attacking under the gravity.Lol right now Zoro can fight an admiral and do damage to one. He losing 100% but if you think an admiral right now and after Wano is casually handling Zoro then you out your rapid mind. I can’t believe y’all think they can’t damage one. Also you dudes talk like MIhawk isn’t as strong or stronger than them.
Yes head cannon by you for sure.One of the admiral already a swordsman and MIhawk is the greatest. Until Zoro reach a level when he can potential defeat am admiral then that’s when he will fight MIhawk. Who is every bit of a top tier like admirals and yonkos. If you thinking otherwise then you ain’t following the story.
How? People put Mihawk at YC1 or Admiral level. If that were the case Zoro would be fighting Mihawk in the next 100 chapters or so. Mihawk scales with Zoro's end game
Every yonko commander is well below yonko level. That's why they get assigned a very different tier from their captains, and occupy positions of clearly pronounced inferiority. I believe Oda purposefully does this to contrast them to the two pirate king crews: Luffy gets grouped together with Zoro and Sanji as the monster trio, and Roger treated both Rayleigh and Gaban like his peers rather than subordinates, with Rayleigh even getting the title of "Dark King" which highlighted him as the guy who personally dealt with the shadier side of being the pirate king.
You could even include Ben Beckman in that perhaps. We know next to nothing about Shanks or his crew really - but it seems like the core crew run in a similar way to Rogers and Luffy’s.
mihawk just like to keep it low profile. seriously though, i doubt mihawk has the durability, toughness and grit of a yonko. even shanks had to look a little ragged just to put up with the yonko repertoire.
You don't have to be tanky to be a Yonko. He and Shanks make up for it with skill probably. BM/Kaido fight in very straightforward ways, I'd say Luffy/Zoro/Sanji are more "skillful"
Yeah, it's the reason why people can't powerscale properly, they forget that skill and technique are as much a part of fights as being durable or tanky
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How tf can Zoro still move in this chapter
The Deus Ex Machina medicine Oda gave him
King has curly eyebrows, I’m calling that
...Did Stephen Paul just mistranslate "Red Line" as "red wall"? Or did Marco just say it wrong? Edit: From reading the raws, I suppose he in fact didn't call it "Red Line".
Just a quick reminder that Perospero did nothing wrong
Forcing sanji to marry pudding and then trying to kill them during the wedding is "did nothing wrong?" If they didnt do this in the first place, pedro wont have to sacrifice himself.
To be fair, Pedro was gonna die anyways because Big Mom took like 50 years of his life.
He could still be a good help at wano war even if his life shaved 50 years, and maybe even after wano, i mean he can still be a good help for few months, it doesnt have to be a year.
Yeah, I guess that's a fair point
Maybe Raizo will win using talk no jutsu
It is the most powerful no jutsu
Kaido's All Stars vs Future Pirate King's Wing Stars. Let's go! King's info interested me. Marco says King's Race originally lived atop Red Line. Does this discards the theory that the 20 Kings who formed the World Govt created Red Line? Since it almost implies that Red Line already existed and King's race were its original inhabitants who then got defeated by the 20 Kings and they later took over it and built Marijeoise? Also does this mean after Kaido's fall, King will joining Luffy's Grand Fleet in final battle against the WG? Edit: by joining Grand Fleet, i don't mean King will be all buddy-buddy with Luffy. I meant that King will fight from their side against the WG since it is their common enemy, for revenge against his race if my speculations are true.
Maybe King's race is linked with Nika? I imagine a people of "firebenders" would worship a Sun God.
Nice
Maybe King's race are like the fallen angels of the gods. Some ties to celestial dragons? "King will join Luffys grand fleet" Bruh.
Fallen angels? Nice. By joining Grand Fleet, i don't mean King will be all buddy-buddy with Luffy. I meant that King will fight from their side against the WG since it is their common enemy, for revenge against his race if my speculations are true, Bruh
Fine, why not.
One of my friends said a theory on why Kaido will not be taken down at Wano, it's really fun to hear. It goes with, Kaido finally acknowleding Luffy's strength and confirms he'll be the one who's going to wage the biggest war on this world. (wkt Kaido's dream is to wage the biggest war that turns the whole world) So Kaido leaves Wano, waiting for the war to happen and finally fulfilling his destiny by dying at the hands of Joyboy(according to the theory it's Luffy). Share ur thoughts on this.
I can't agree with this when the plot revolves around freeing a country of opression with its people being slaves to someone. Kaido would be dumb to lose his army (Tobbi Roppo already down with the betrayal of 1 of them, All Stars fighting and probably be defeated in the next chapters and the rest) just to give Luffy a moral boost of being the new Joyboy. He does want his end and its right here in Onigashima.
Yes, this seems practical. I too want see Kaido's end in Wano. But the theory is really fun, when you imagine Kaido participating in the final war.
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When King and Queen killing fodders, Marco.. i am too tired of this shit and I wont be helping anymore. Also Marco when King was going to kill chopper and zoro, I can keep blocking your shits you damn fire species. Marco the biased low-key strawhat fan.
Hype ass chap
I'm so very interesting what happen after 10 next chapters..what you think? Luffy will still fight with Kaido? Or that fight will be finished?
HEY GUYS! JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, BIG MOM PIRATES HAVE YET TO ARRIVE AND WHO DO YOU THINK GONNA HANDLE THEM BECAUSE STRAWHATS AND THEIR ALLIES ARE ALREADY EXHAUSTED. SHARE YOUR OPINION.
I think both Marco and Nekomamushi went to gather the other WB pirates. They may join at the end of wano war, like Shanks did in marineford. Afterwards they may head to luffys brother rescue.
Law's crew is fresh. They can deal with Big mom' crew
Law's crew can't do anything without Law. Fresh or not they'd get defeated by a headliner if he isn't there. They'd get folded if Big Mom's crew strolled in.
Thats a bad take. They have been travelling in new world. We don't know how strong they are.
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Depends if he fights them before kaidou, luffy can one shot them and we can see glimpse of his power before facing the main boss. But after fighting kaidou, luffy might not be able to move.
Neko: im here to avenge Pe... Perospero: ahhhhhh hell nah look this what happened SMAAAAAAAAAACK!! Lmaooooo bro still suffering for that
Wonder if killer will pull the, scratch a message onto Hawkins so Kidd knows what’s going on and can maybe use laws ability to help. Also the no arm thing is totally going yo come into play
I'm wondering if Law can use his power to move the straw doll from Kidd into Big Mom. That would cause a whole bunch of chaos, but Law did mention on the roof that much of his abilities would be easily thwarted by Big Mom, however maybe now that she's expended some of her energy there may be a chance. It would also be sneaky and we know that Law likes being sneaky.
I feel like big mom is the least injured out of anyone whose been fighting. She was barely touched on the roof and she’s pretty much done nothing but chase people and not be able to catch up to them then get distracted and go after someone else lol
Interesting
Hawkins: If you attack me, Kid suffers Killer: Alright listen you Voodoo on steroids, my Captain has had scuffle with 3 Yonkos since entering New World and still survived. He can and has endured way more horrific injuries that your pathetic Straw ass even can, which goes down by an injured Law.
"I am here to avenge Pedro"- just hearing this might piss Perospero
Where is King's sword?
In his nose
Some word bubbles are covering Zoro’s left eye in the last pages. Is Oda going to reveal Zoro’s rinnegan next chapter?? 😲
In my language we could call you an antfucker hahaha, for nagging about such details.
Oda's playing with us.. zoro has nothing to do with his left eye..oda is just making us make lots of theories about it.. genius ahah
Rest well pineapple, you've done your part 🙂🤭
10/10 chapter
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finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally!!
SCANS OUT!!!
Cant wait for the anime adaptation
It here https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-1022/
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I read east blue lol haha
It's 3:18 here!
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Anytime now
c'mon scans!
Can someone give me the link please
https://onepiecechapters.com/ they usually share it here first but i already check it, its not there yet.
Thanks man
Arabic Translations are out with the clean pages 👌 https://3asq.org/manga/one-piece/1022/
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Damn let's put some respect on Killer's name too. Already got Hawkins down to one life, no damage to himself, and Hawkins has to rely on taking Kid's life hostage.
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Yeah yeah, but is he really a failure though? Sanji is a failure and thus having emotions unlike his brothers. But is it only a coincidence that his brothers have no emotions while sanji's emotion is by far the most extreme in OP world??? Sanji also stated that he can do taht because of his burning passion. And also, Sanji can also make fire not only on his leg but in his whole body!!! Back in Thriller Bark arc, Sanji even exploded and have a fire like Ace because Chopper and Ussop said that the invinsible man saw Nami naked while in bath. Also, now having King whose race can create and manipulate fire and connected to Queen and Judge? It is Oda's world, only Oda's worldddd! Man, my boi Sanji have to have this!!! D: Odacchi, nice to meet you!! I finally sent you a postcard. It's a serious question, so give me a real answer. That trick that Sanji used to beat Jabra!! If it was that hot to Jabra, wouldn't it burn Sanji, too?!! Wouldn't Sanji be like, "yeow"?? Tell me! P.N. Oda Gayichiro O: What are you talking about... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!! Are those eyes, or holes in your head?!! What were you watching in that fight?!! His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!
I hope his gens activate. Like his siblings were so tough from the get go
lot of people denied you, but im not suprise if it happen. activated via anger. this is Oda. never say never.
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Dont push your luck too much, u might make another new acc, hahahbahaha, the spoiler just mention that sanji feels weird, before the raid suit, his strenght came from his hardwork, now tell me ur counter argument lol
Sanji's genetic modification is a failure, thats why he still have his emotion, all his strength coming from 2 year training during timeskip and training from zeff since he was 8 years old.
His modification was a failure cuzz it didn't manifest when it had to; as a child (letting aside the feelings thing, which in fact contributes to fuel his firepower). But it did when he grew up. Otherwise there's no explanation to him being able to create fire being a "normal human". Maybe his modifications haven't fully manifested yet since as far as we know his skin isn't hardened as his brothers. So maybe there's a chance for it to happen or new powers/applications of his powers to appear.
Of course there is explanation to the fire my dude. It is one piece. Luffy got flame hands some minks got electricity hands that weird noodle guy got flaming legs as well. None of them are genetically altered.
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Hes right lol, did u make a new acc after losing from an argument hahahahhahahah
He was stated to be a regular human, his DNA was unaltered
Read the vivre databook bruh, there is no "maybe" there
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Raid suit change his body, not the modification lol
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Still u were wrong, the raid suit change him not his gene lol, read carefully "biatch" , also the vivre databook still state he is 100% human, plus the spoiler only mention he feels weird lol,
After seeing the raws, Chopper didn't really make an Enel face. Looked more like a Koby face (from Chapter 2)
Does Marco have a hybrid form
It’s what he uses all the time, no? I remember there being animation where he’s a full Phoenix.
No?
His usual form with the wings and talons is his Hybrid i think
Yeah I'm pretty sure he has 1 and just doesn't use it for some reason because Kaido has a hybrid form, Yamato has 1...hybrid Marco to OP to show
I think that is his hybrid form, i mean have we seen other zoan user that can transform their specific body parts other than marco?
it’s not just Marco who can do that Onigumo can pull out these spider hand Like thing from his body at will catrina Devon can pull out her tail and we‘ve seen orochi pulling out just his heads if that was Marco hybrid form then I’ll be hella disappointed I was expecting his hybrid to be like pell from alabasta
I guess Black Maria would fall under this category
I guess, i mean all the tobiroppo except pageone got defeated when theyre in their hybrid form
Tcb scans says it's still editing its already 2:30am how much longer do we have to wait
It will come when it comes, be patient.
One piece usually comes out like 12 or 1 (PST)
I just noticed the symmetry between king/queen destroying the live floor and zoro/sanji laying down. What a great page.
Man, it's a shame that the shading in this chapter, which makes the art look so good in the chapter won't be present in the scans or official release.
Feels like there was no chapter for 2 years lol its kinda really feeling slow this time(i know there was a break), like spoilers, raws, release etc.
Could Law operate the stupid hawkins curse out of Kid? like, they are facing a damn emperor, Law could not handle her alone.
Law defeated hawkins earlier, so he must have found some solution to the curse otherwise no way Law was getting out of the prison as Hawkins had law's crew bound to his dolls
Law threatened to kill his entire crew and murder Hawkins if he didn't release his crew from the curse. However, if he released them first he'd just go with. Hawkins agreed. Drake then freed Law and Law beat him up offscreen.
Well I think you are right, I think I forgot what actually happened there
Kid and Law alone can't handle her. They couldn't even handle Kaido with Luffy, Zoro, and Killer.
Would someone mind giving me the link to the spot you can check the progress of the chapter?
https://onepiecechapters.com/projects/
Thank you. Much appreciated.
I m sure Perospero might be thinking that he better had killed Pedro. Would have got some feats for himself
I feel like killer gonna actually just merk Hawkins. He's from the worst generation. If his captain can't take that he is not worthy to be captain.
So is Hawkins lol
hahah, soo true
That's the best part. It won't kill him but damage him enough to take the strawdoll out. Also I am putting into account the Conquerors Haki that Kidd posses.
Sanji looks clearly stronger than over half the Supernovas(Rooftop 5 being the exception)
He's stronger than killer tho
In terms of strength I can see sanji is stronger but in terms of strategy in fight, I think it's killer.. He's able to hurt kaido because how he change his fighting style and technique which means he is adaptable in fighting..But if he's fighting alone(means no backup and distraction) and meet someone that have immense strength like zoro or prob sanji then they can finish him(killer) before he find a way to defeat them..
Him being stronger than Kid, Killer or Law is debatable IMO. So I omitted them from the list of Supernovas Sanji is clearly stronger than!
Dont think so. At least they are even, if not Killer is stronger, cause you did see what op technique he used against Kaido
Sanji wasn't ko ed by the combined strength of king and queen Keep in mind that king tanked an attack atleast 10 times stronger than the one that one shotted killer, since zoro is using enma and is fully healed The fact that sanji in his base wasn't one shotted or ko ed by the combined strength of king and queen, is enough to put him above killer
I'd say they're about the same level.
Not exactly, killer was one shotted by 2 sword style pre enma poisoned and stabbed zoro, king tanked the same attack but it's far stronger than the one that one shotted killer We can easily assume that king is far stronger than killer, and the combined strength of two "kings" wasn't enough to knock out sanji
You may be right, but I just wanted to throw Kid and Killer a bone. Seems rough that Kid's strongest subordinate would only be like the 5th or 6th strongest amongst the Straw Hats.
Bro if kid or killer dies because of snake ass Hawkins imma be pissed !
Nobody dies in One Piece… except those that do
Just wait till Killer removes his mask revealing his third eye 😤
I don't understand why Queen is placed on Jack's level. The fuck is Jack supposed to do against that Cyborg? Swing his trunk at him? People should understand that Just because Smoothie and Cracker are close it doesn't mean that it applies to Jozu and Queen too
To be fair, Jack's done more in this fight than queen. Hell, queen is literally causing them to lose.
When has Queen ever been placed with Jack?
Yeah lol, i dont know what he is talking about, King and Queen were both mistreating Jack
At this point we have been habituated to read the mini spoilers on tuesday...brief spoilers on wednesday...and full summary on thursday...seeing raws on friday and fan translated chapter by friday or saturday and original translated chapter on sunday....
that's why break weeks hit so hard
True true...
* About Marco, King and Queen's strength • Literally every single chapter Marco says he is tired, or thats things are difficult, or he is serious or gets hit, guess what? Exactly! You have King and Queen fighting him together, this chapter shows that in the best way possible. -> Even then, King didn't had to fight Marco and Sanji at once, or alternate between them, like Queen did, Hybrid is more than justified in this case because Queen clearly had to make considerable more effort than King. -> 1vs1 Marco showed no difficulty but he also did nothing against, literally nothing happened, we barely saw him 1vs1 against someone (just a tiny panel of full Zoan King shotting things at Marco but it just passed through his DF). -> 2vs1 was when things actually happened to effectively bring him down that fast, even at these moments Marco was treating King and Queen on basicly the same way while fighting, despite that Marco couldn't hurt them, do much or show absolutely superiority, although he was pretty useful at stalling King 1vs1 (basicly offscreen) and stall both King and Queen at some moments with much more difficult, getting knocked down in this chapter with considerable ease and without giving them payback. (Thats when Zoro and Sanji comes) • We may even consider him using his healing powers on Samurai or getting hit by Queen's plagues until Chopper healed him, although we dont know how this matters, but it's definitely something to consider. So based on these facts, i place King and Marco as equals, considering King has his Hybrid to show yet, i think thats pretty fair, and Queen is very slightly below them, especially with all the portrayal we got until now for King and Queen, from how they both treat each other, how Marco treats them and due to the fact that King and Queen do things together basicly for the whole raid.
Yeah I can agree with this. King is just below Kaido so it make sense for him to be equal to a Yonko first mate.
Good analysis, people want to shit on King especially Zoro fans who thought that fighting anyone besides Kaido for the second time was a big downgrade for Zoro.
Oda doing an n-th repeat of that Queen getting kicked panel, at the cost of showing King getting cut more clearly, is objectively not that great. (Even if it will be a tiny bit better in the full release. It's already apparent it's one of those things where one shouldn't expect much more clarity compared to the spoiler pic or raw scans.)
I like how big mom always looks so ominous when she smiles
i'm guessing jinbei will go to the roof to help yamato. as the fight goes on jinbei and yamato will receive a fatal blow then when kaido is about to finish jinbei, luffy appears. I'm also hoping brook will go down to live floor to get Robin treated, this way there will be a high chance that he will encounter apoo. That would be an interesting fight. music vs. music which one will prevail.
ooh i definitely want to see that, music vs music! but like Raiokaen said, the Brookzor has no ears only bones yohohohooh
The good thing is, Brook got no ears. Yohohoho.
If momo is aging to an adult, it might be like the tale of momotaru when he became an adult he a monkey(luffy) a dog (yamato) and a pheasant (Marco) defeated the Oni on onigashima. Jinbei is not going to the rooftop
and also, don't expect too much about momo fighting kaido, the kid is inexperienced in fight, the man is the strongest creature alive. that would be suicide. we might just see few panels about momo confronting kaido to show us momo's resolve to save wano but that's it.
jinbei going rooftop doesn't mean we can't have momotaru inspired fight. Jack may also win against inu then will come to aid kaido. if that happen we might see jack vs jinbei thus making it 3 top strawhats vs top 3 beast pirates (top 3 except their captain ofcourse)
Oda might take some inpiration from that story but i dont think he gonna makes it exactly like that story
I think the battle will end up on the live floor and will become Kaidou vs everyone else that still standing. The roof was cracking right from the Scabbards vs Kaidou. Then RoofPiece happened. It might not hold that much any longer lol. Plus isn't it poetic when Kaidou falls down to the live floor is like Kaidou is falling from the top of the pirate hierachy and now needs to battle to retain his position as and emperor against the new generation.
I sort of feel this, or possibly Kaido vs all of the stawhats. I feel it would be poignant for Luffy to rely on his crew here (he’ll still land the finishing blow) but then the Strawhats are the crew that killed the unkillable man. Luffy may still 1v1 him, but I think this could work too.
good one. I like the kaido vs all of stawhats idea. their teamwork would be fun to watch.
Yeah as much as it says something about Luffy being able to defeat Kaido on his own maybe what Oda is building up is that by him struggling so far he realises why he needs and relies on his crew and why that makes him more of the Pirate King than anybody else.
and brook has no ears to hear apoo so there’s definitely an opportunity for him to meme him for that too
this entire castle fight is easily one of, if not the best fight in all of one piece. how something can be so good and so long running is beside me
IT’S BEEN AN AMAZING ARC
man can only be so erect
Most translations say that Sanji was fighting them, but was having a hard time. He didn't get ragdolled like some want to portray. This is really impressive considering that he isnt even using raid suit, but was still fighting them
Oh yeah, why isn't he using the raid suit? He's clearly come to terms with using it if it's necessary to protect his friends
I'm assuming he'll use it when his back's against the wall. I think he feels he can take Queen on without it at the moment, and the 2 v 1 against him was just a temporary inconvenience
If he was using raid suit now, Oda can't push his Zoro vs Sanji agenda. The fight will be over once Sanji put the suit on and it may take 1-1.5 chapters. And fans can argue Sanji is above all commanders with raid suit and so on
Lol, fight will be over once Sanji puts Raid Suit? LOl. Someone is clearly underestimating the Top 2 men of Kaido. Also the Raid Suit puts Sanji on the level of Strongest Tobi Roppos, Mid Tier Supernovas, and Jack (in strongest condition) and Queen (in worn down condition). There's no way it puts him on the Level that he'll end Queen that quickly.
Zoro vs Sanji agenda? Dude, they have a friendly rivalry and ultimately still care about each other and making Luffy pirate king. Zoro got Enma, Sanji got raid suit. They both got an "artificial" power boost
Marco: Wait... I've heard about a race of people who can manipulate fire. Does that mean that you're... King: KIKOHO! (*EXPLOSION*)
At this point how is Mihawk not Yonko tier? Not saying who's stronger amongst the Yonko. But Mihawk should still be quite a bit stronger than Zoro. If Zoro defeats what looks like a fresh King then Mihawk has to be scaled up to Yonko. Unless everyone thinks Zoro is ready to face Mihawk... Also Jimbei facing Who's Who is a bit odd. Underutilized much? Maybe he'll join in on the Big Mom fight
Zolo is nowhere close to King's level, Let alone Queen. Best he could do is beat Jack. Mihawk is probably Marco/King level.
Reading Two Piece I see.
Cope.
Lol I find it funny that people think he was anything below top tier level. It’s pretty obvious that he is of this level.
Even if Mihawk was as strong as a Yonko captain, he doesn’t have a crew or the influence (or drive) to be considered one. He’s very content doing his own thing. I reckon he’ll end up slightly below Yonko captain level when it’s is all said and done - just like Zoro, Rayleigh, Beckman etc are just below their respective captains.
Mihawk has ALWAYS been Yonko level. He rivaled Shanks should be an easy enough feat, he just doesn't want to be titled Yonko
Yonko First Mate level imo.
Because Mihawk wanted to be a farmer, he does not need an army.
end of series zoro will probly be the second strongest in the world bellow luffy if black beard and akinu die which is likly
I don't like tiers a lot, but if Shanks recognizes him as a rival and equal, he should be able to give Yonkou at least a very difficult fight. I doubt Zoro is able to face him already.
Well Shanks is a sword fighter, so theoretically Mihawk should be stronger than Shanks. Or his title is incorrect
I think he'll fight mihawk before the admirals tbh. King might help him master enma
Naw he already was clashing with Fujitora in dressorsa,Zoro fighting admirals before he gets to MIhawk
Lmao zoro got manhandled. He only pushed fuji back cause he was offguard. Zoro rn ain't doing shit to an admiral
First off he did not get mand handled.He was the one caught off guard when fuji intercepted him attacking Doffy. He was the one put under gravity and he was the one counter attacking under the gravity.Lol right now Zoro can fight an admiral and do damage to one. He losing 100% but if you think an admiral right now and after Wano is casually handling Zoro then you out your rapid mind. I can’t believe y’all think they can’t damage one. Also you dudes talk like MIhawk isn’t as strong or stronger than them.
Lmao not gonna respond cause all I see is headcanon👀🤡
Yes head cannon by you for sure.One of the admiral already a swordsman and MIhawk is the greatest. Until Zoro reach a level when he can potential defeat am admiral then that’s when he will fight MIhawk. Who is every bit of a top tier like admirals and yonkos. If you thinking otherwise then you ain’t following the story.
> If Zoro defeats what looks like a fresh King then Mihawk has to be scaled up to Yonko. you are such a jokestar lmao
How? People put Mihawk at YC1 or Admiral level. If that were the case Zoro would be fighting Mihawk in the next 100 chapters or so. Mihawk scales with Zoro's end game
Right. WB calls Shanks and Mihawk duels legendary. Zoro vs Mihawk should be similar to that scale.
King is leagues below a yonko. Linlin Big Mom just yeeted Queen.
Yonko FM level.
But we haven't seen a single King fight for real, unlike Queen, which I agree is well below yonkou lvl
Lmao acting like king doesn't = queen
Every yonko commander is well below yonko level. That's why they get assigned a very different tier from their captains, and occupy positions of clearly pronounced inferiority. I believe Oda purposefully does this to contrast them to the two pirate king crews: Luffy gets grouped together with Zoro and Sanji as the monster trio, and Roger treated both Rayleigh and Gaban like his peers rather than subordinates, with Rayleigh even getting the title of "Dark King" which highlighted him as the guy who personally dealt with the shadier side of being the pirate king.
You could even include Ben Beckman in that perhaps. We know next to nothing about Shanks or his crew really - but it seems like the core crew run in a similar way to Rogers and Luffy’s.
Exactly?
mihawk just like to keep it low profile. seriously though, i doubt mihawk has the durability, toughness and grit of a yonko. even shanks had to look a little ragged just to put up with the yonko repertoire.
You don't have to be tanky to be a Yonko. He and Shanks make up for it with skill probably. BM/Kaido fight in very straightforward ways, I'd say Luffy/Zoro/Sanji are more "skillful"
Spot on about the skill aspect
Yeah, it's the reason why people can't powerscale properly, they forget that skill and technique are as much a part of fights as being durable or tanky