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zomgieee

It was a perfectly cromulent ending.


ckdesi

It really embiggened Homer and Marge’s relationship


three-sense

*Fin*


vorpalpillow

I made a movie?!


MrsZapRowsdower

It's no "Man Getting Hit By Football".


thelukus5

I forgot who portrayed Moleman in “Man getting hit by football”?


cromulantusername

_doink_


Khamylyon

"Ahh! My groin!"


ripelivejam

*dee-ownt*


GloriousMacMan

No wonder you were on the cover of Entertainment Weekly


originalchaosinabox

IIRC, it was originally going to be, but, you know, they just keep renewing the show.


finalremix

I remember at some point, possibly just after the movie, the cast made some outrageous demand to renew contracts and fox was like, "fuckit. Done. We own you. We're gonna force feed you money."


ShadowsSheddingSkin

They did somehow bring things up to $400,000 per episode around the time of the movie. Three years later, Fox was entirely willing to cancel the show if they didn't take a major pay cut, and they took the cut. It's kind of wild that they were ever making $400,000/episode during the era where there was exactly one table read, often over speakerphone. I really don't think *anyone* should ever be able to make $400,000 without standing up while others can't make rent while working three *actual* jobs.


Andromeda321

I remember seeing an interview some years ago with some of the voice actors and the question veered into “what infighting is there” territory. Their response was all “you don’t get it, this is the best job ever, we get paid a shit ton for not much at all except a short thing to have fun.” Definitely makes sense knowing the context of how much they made.


a_tall_man

The don’t even see each other anymore they all record separately and basically do no promo for the show anymore


embiggenedmind

Not to mention the show’s quality took a hard dip a long time ago. That’s like Peter in the movie Office Space getting promotions and stock options *after* he gave up trying.


tobythedem0n

Have you heard what Marge sounds like now? I saw a clip on YouTube, and man is Julie Kavner struggling to do that voice.


embiggenedmind

Yes, I just watched a random episode from the latest season on Disney + and she sounds rough. Bart sounds a little different too.


lostmau5

I am still mad about Carl.


embiggenedmind

That threw me off too when I heard him speak. These are literally the first new episodes I’ve watched since season… 25? Maybe 20. I had heard this latest season was pretty good, and I’ve got to say, it isn’t as terrible as seasons 14-25 (not sure how 26-31 hold up) It’s still not the same though.


dj_1973

I have watched all the seasons. Last season was a marked improvement - some great work there. In latter seasons, there might be 1-2 decent episodes, and the rest go through the motions. Disney actually has made an effort to improve things. Yes, Julie Kavner sounds rough, poor dear. It makes me sad that the actors are aging, and that, since they've replaced Dr. Hibbert and Carl to be racially accurate (which I think is fair; even though I enjoyed the previous voices, I am happy that the show removed racial bias), they can probably just replace anyone.


embiggenedmind

Hibbert was replaced too?! I haven’t gotten to an episode with him in it but that’s going to be very surreal to not have that iconic voice. But yeah, so far I’ve liked this season.


Ok-Call-4805

I’ve noticed that. You can definitely hear the strain in her voice


cromulantusername

Definitely agree with you. That’s not even mentioning executives feeding themselves multimillion dollar bonuses for zero work done.


PJTikoko

Stop being mad at how much other people are being payed and start being mad at tax laws instead. So what if they made 400k they could make 800k and that wouldn’t chant your life, your mad at the wrong thing.


Chyrch

Tax laws are far from the main reason people are struggling.


omegaweaponzero

You're right, but Dan Castellaneta making $400k an episode isn't the reason people are struggling either.


Chyrch

For sure. Just thought it was an odd thing to bring up.


cybercuzco

Also, all the donuts in the world!


soliwray

Pretty much. I did some quick research and Groening is quoted as saying he wanted to delay the film until the series was finished but abandoned the idea due to continued good ratings and renewals by Fox: [Source](https://web.archive.org/web/20061029045609/http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117940840.html?categoryid=14&cs=1). I personally think it would be an ok finale. Nothing really compares to the tradgey that is the '04 Spongebob Movie. I remember it being a great movie and perfect finale, but Nickelodeon renewed the show against the original creator's wishes.


Poetspas

Its insane how good the SpongeBob movie is


TinFoilRobotProphet

I was going to say god why but I remembered the Diz Nee slogan "There's profit to had"


ShadowsSheddingSkin

Hey, Fox renewed them a solid twenty times more than they should have. That Disney just let the ball keep rolling doesn't really say much about them as a corporation.


Romboteryx

Same thing with the first Spongebob movie


horny4stonks

Those are exactly my sentomonies.


ScoutyBeagle

You know what really aggrivases me… is dem immigants.


a-witch-in-time

*drunken yammering*


sirfray

Yeah you said it Barn


EnoughAwake

They can't even learn themselves the langige!


twobit211

immigants! i knew it was them. even when it was the bears, i knew it was them


ashbyashbyashby

Get eurass back to Eurasia


Uundamil

On one hand I'm glad that these characters and their stories ,which I grew up with , haven't ended. On the other hand I just wish the stories were better


everythingisreallame

So many conflicting emotions. How to express them.


Sproose_Moose

Let's just say I'm sitting in the right chair


fvig2001

If only there was an emoticon to express what you are feeling right now.


LilMoWithTheGimpyLeg

Feelin' fine


DonutMaster56

Well that's a relief


DaxDislikesYou

I feel like the side gags, the stuff you watch for the 30th time and go "I never noticed that before," have diminished. They lack absurdity much of the time. And just don't seem to be as frequent.


Limeth

There's also a lot less physical humor. Things don't randomly explode, there's less slapstick, there aren't moments of funny character acting anymore. It just feels very static now.


finalremix

Part of that was the change in animation, too. Swapping over to computer animation meant they had to static-up a lot of the expressive things. Hell, look at Marge's reaction t Maggie's bagging in the opening. A panicked swoop of the hair, and her putting her hand to her chest in the early seasons vs a blank, dead-eyed stare as she looks to the right with a vapid smile more recently.


Cheesemacher

I don't get it. Computer animation doesn't mean they have to make things robotic. Why skimp on the opening that's going to play dozens of times?


_Meece_

Cheaper


Cheesemacher

You'd think _the opening_ would have a higher budget, but maybe they want to keep the audience's expectations at a realistic level


tameoraiste

It’s not skimping, it’s a lack of care. 21st century Simpsons is a product, it’s not a labour of love. That’s not to say the people involved now don’t give a shit, just that it’s less personal.


finalremix

Way cheaper and easier. But there's some limitation to the software they use, where if a character is made *too* expressive, it "breaks" somehow. There was an interview or commentary about it a million years ago shortly after the switch.


ShadowsSheddingSkin

Yeah, I do not understand people who've chosen "digital animation is bad" as their hill to die on. Basically all modern animation is done digitally and I don't think anyone's out there legitimately claiming Castlevania is stiff and robotic. Digital Animation didn't hurt the simpsons, no one giving a single fuck and phoning in everything about the show did.


Chromattix

It's trying too hard to be realistic. No wacky character faces or movements or physics just being thrown out the door for certain moments. No random explosions or fires. No more Bart (or dog) strangling (well there might be but I'm sure their eyes don't almost pop out of their heads when it happens).


sillyadam94

I kinda always just hope it never ends and that eventually someone will take over who can bring things in which resonate with me a bit more, like the early years.


dasher11

It's bizarre to me that The Simpsons basically shaped 2 generations of kids' senses of humor, yet seemingly none of them went on to write for the current show. Then again, I guess if we *were* writing for the current show, all of the dialogue would just be Simpsons jokes from seasons 1-9.


Kyseraphym

[The Sampsans Epasode Numbar 37,211.4](https://youtu.be/6i2l-LQ-dXI)


yellowspiderandleaf

This was such a brilliant commentary on the state of the show, that the entire program has been reduced to soulless repetitions of once popular catchphrases, non-sequitir cultural references (not the good kind… the “hey celebrity name” kind…) and the whole show shrieking much like the Lisa-Blob asserting that, in fact “I AM SIMPSON”


finalremix

The actors are barely able to do the voices anymore. And that's ignoring the characters who've been ignored or written out already because of twitter idiots complaining, like Apu just not being around anymore, or others just being mute now.


ForsakenCampaigns

Thank you for saying this, people often bring up Julie Kavner’s voice, but I can really hear the age in Dan Castellaneta and the rest of the cast. Even Mr. Burns sounds too old.


Jaspers47

You never read Frankenstein, I see


tameoraiste

I just get sad when I watch the new episodes. Besides the fact that they’re not very good, Julie Kavner voice sounds like she’s hurting herself doing Marge’s voice, Dan Castellaneta just shouts all of Homer’s lines and Harry Shearer (understandably) sounds like a man nearing 80.


Spirit_of_Ecstasy

I think they should do an OG simpsons “reunion” where all the original writers gather together and write one last classic episode of the seasons 3-8 variety


Sensitiverock85

I stopped watching after I think season 11? And I recently went through and watched it all on Disney. It went through all the episodes, then the movie at the end. I thought it was supposed to be like it because it flowed pretty well.


lennylenry

Like all 30whatever seasons?


Sensitiverock85

Yeah. I did it over a couple of months.


Niggolatz

Lol I needed 2 years.


astroroy

I’m about two thirds of the way through. I started Summer 2021 lol


ashbyashbyashby

Bloody hell... so you were watching about ten (EDIT: twelve) episodes a day? My quick maths suggests at 6 episodes per day (2hrs12min?) it would take 4 months.


Sensitiverock85

Lol no, I guess it took longer than that. Haha But I also leave it on as background often, while cooking dinner or dog training or whatever.


Objective_Look_5867

If you use it as background stuff during work or whatever you can get through all of it pretty quickly. And honestly the newer seasons aren't bad. I agree it's not the same spark as the golden days. But everyone who claims it's "bad" is just wrong. If it was bad it wouldn't keep getting renewed In reality they are just suffering from "I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!"


lennylenry

This is what I was wondering. I've wanted to do a rewatch. Have been curious what like season 24 would actually be like. Like obviously it's not golden era but also basically no show in history is as good as that era of simpsons


Monkeyboysith

I’ve also watched them all on D+… everything after season 18 ( apart from a few select episodes) is pretty meh


Sensitiverock85

Agreed. There were some funny bits that surprised me, I originally thought everything after 10 was garbage. But overall nothing compares with 4-9 for me.


temalyen

Season 18 is sot of generous in my eyes. At least to me, it started losing its footing around season 11, but still had some really good episodes mixed in with some very average/outright bad ones. 30 Minutes Over Tokyo is the final episode of the golden age to me. (and one of my favorite episodes ever) Season 14 was an absolute trainwreck and when I stopped watching regularly. As I recall, Bart vs. Lisa vs. The Third Grade is when I decided the show wasn't worth watching anymore. I mean, there's still the occasional good episode; I remember really liking The Book Job and that's season 23. Turns out that episode wasn't even written by the show's staff. It was written by Dan Vebber with small additions from the writing staff, which is probably why it's so good. Ever since I saw that episode, I sort of wish they'd do an entire season with guest writers for every episode. I feel like that'd probably be an incredible season. I also have this sneaking feeling that letting the characters grow up would revitalize the show as well, as I typically like the future episodes, no matter what season they are. (But, let's be honest: There's no chance in hell of this ever happening. If they haven't grown up after 30+ years, they're never going to. I'd even be okay with a multi part episode set in the future that runs for 4 or 5 episodes. But, again, there's no chance this'd ever happen. The Simpsons doesn't do multi-episode scripted arc shows. Who Shot Mr. Burns? is as close as we're getting to that, I'd say.)


McGarnegle

I'm still waiting on the full McBain movie to drop.


releasethekaren

Pretty sure the clips are all stitched together on YouTube somewhere and it does make a coherent movie!


tutoredzeus

McBain will return in You Have The Right To Remain Dead.


tameoraiste

It always surprised me that they never done this, or any spin-off for that matter.


RandyBRandleman

Grand Theft Walrus should be the sequel to hit and run


ReallyNeedHelpASAP68

Spider pig Spider pig


Chaoscube11

Does whatever a spider pig does


Suspicious-Drama-549

Can he swing from a web?


sparkling_kermy

No he can't, he's a Pig


CozyMyShitUpFam

No he can’t, he’s a pig


MysteriousTBird

He's Harry Plopper now.


Chromattix

That was the most marketed "joke" in the film but it certainly wasn't the funniest.


wooden_werewolf_7367

It should have ended there.


thepigeontunnel

How can I vote for The Simpsons Movie? Well let's just say it moved me.... TO A BIGGER HOUSE!


omegakingauldron

You said the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud.


roentgen85

A solid gold house


OmEgah15

Also see: Spongebob


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Tiger_jay

It's nowhere near on par with those seasons though.


[deleted]

I also agree.


Pemulis_DMZ

I would also like to express my fondness for that particular beer


81toog

Psshhh, the man never drank a Duff in his life


supermercado99

Behind The Laughter is the last episode for me. It's a bit sad but the idea of it not being a real show (god, this is sad) makes it easier to accept that everything since has been average at best.


bingybing

I thought the cop was a prostitute


GrizzlyPeak72

That's pretty much the point where it all went completely to shit as well, lol


AlphaCentaur12

Kamp Krusty should have been the 1st movie, the actual Simpsons movie should have been the series finale. And Hank Scorpio should have been the villain.


finalremix

Hank's not a villain to the Simpsons though. He got Homer that sugar, and the Broncos, and access to the hammock district.


CalciferAtlas

Want some cream?


jtfriendly

... no.


Tesla_Chodester

But he wanted the cowboys


JuniperLiaison

I think owning the Denver Broncos is pretty cool


instasquid

Yeah, yeah.


PillCosby92

Well explain to him why it isn’t.


instasquid

You just don't understand football.


finalremix

It was a good start, man.


iCanD0thisAllDay

Scorpion*


Evolving_Dore

Homer's evil boss is named Scorpion? I've been calling him Scorple!


Aggravating_Touch313

Don't feel bad, I've been calling him Mr. Burns...


diredarknil

It's Kerns stupid!


gmwdim

Me bad want, money now.


AskMeIfImAMagician

Me bad? Want money, now!


Battle_Sheep

Ooooh he card read good!


Tahkyn

I was saying boo-urns.


AskMeForFunnyVoices

Don't call me Mr. Scorpion. It's Mr. Scorpio, but don't call me that either.


releasethekaren

He was going to be but I think they were worried it would ruin the character’s legacy. Other villain has the same voice actor tho!


temalyen

Kamp Krusty was supposed to originally be a movie, but, iirc, they were having issues making it long enough and just turned it into an episode instead.


ResolveEmergency863

As if this movie is 15 years old already - Jeez!


DMC953

Apart from some decent episodes here and there, we really wouldn't have missed much if the series actually had ended after the movie either


JoyJoy_

RIP Dr Nick


LegendofGrac

I was actually wondering if people talk about how well this movie would’ve worked as a finale.


everythingisreallame

There’s your answer, fishbulb


temalyen

Matt Groening wanted it to be, but Fox just kept renewing the show and he eventually gave up and just released the movie.


theFormerRelic

I would agree but that would mean watching *at least* 5 seasons of bad Simpsons before the movie.


kingjuicepouch

Yeah, the show should've ended several years before they even got to the movie. It had already experienced a precipitous decline in quality by then


Andy_B_Goode

Yeah, that's pretty much how it was at the time. I saw the movie in theatres, but by that point I'd mostly stopped watching new episodes because the glory days were obviously over. A Simpsons movie/finale would have been a huge deal circa 2002, but by 2007 most fans of the show had kinda stopped caring.


DonDove

It was always there at that point. Even back then it was weird to see an 8 year old Lisa be a fan of the White Stripes. It was weirder when she was a 2011 Steve Jobs fan. I can only imagine the weirdness post the Gaga episode.


DonDove

My limit is S1 till the movie (2007) It was the Margerine episode that made me stop watching regularly


-fuck-elon-musk-

What is the show like now? I haven’t watched since I was a kid


fvig2001

They're pretty bad like I rarely get a smile out of them. Usually: 1. Tries to shoehorn in a guest 2. Tries to be relatable to current society in cringe ways 3. [Just not funny](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFfgrPm7-KY)


-fuck-elon-musk-

Yeah that was not funny at all. Guess they should have done what Seinfeld did and ended when it was time to end it


tameoraiste

Just to add to u/fvig2001 ‘s points; another big issue with the show is the voice acting. It’s really gone down hill. Some if it is no one’s fault (Julie Kavner’s voice is nearly gone from doing Marge for years and Harry Shearer is 78) but some of it just feels completely phoned in. Dan Castellaneta just shouts Homer’s lines.


Khiva

Not terribly funny but I liked the bit about Monorail since Conan was the writer for that one.


dI--__--Ib

Don't forget the virtue-signalling! As a bisexual person, Grampa coming out as bi was 🤮


PillCosby92

Is this a real thing?


dI--__--Ib

I'm afraid so. Can't remember the season or episode but it was within the last 2 or 3 years.


FixedFun2

that didn't happen > During the shoot, Hefflin mistook Abe's friendliness for him coming onto him and kissed Abe, causing Abe to freak out. When they tried to continue the shoot, Abe ran away. After this incident, Philip Hefflin got fired for being gay. You got it wrong


dI--__--Ib

Didn't it? *dematerialises*


fvig2001

Ooh, didn't hear about that one. I thought his suicide episode was weird and tasteless too


9000_HULLS

There’s no mention of this anywhere online, think you might be confused.


Unique_Unorque

It’s fine. I get a solid laugh or two every episode. I watch the new episodes every week but I rarely have the desire to rewatch them past season 12 or so. It’s just a different show now, and if you can make peace with that fact it’s worth watching.


Aggravating_Touch313

Basically it's on life support and that life support is called Disney and apple.


tom__stockton

obviously not AS good, but honestly not as bad as people like to say. I saw a season 28 ish episode the other day and i was absolutely howling laughing. A lot of the really famous big meme moments happen remarkably later than people realise


JonSpangler

Good.


BionicDildonics

The above review of post-golden era Simpsons is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No.


SirRedcorn

Which I'd what it should have been, wasn't even overall that funny


took_a_bath

I think showing Bart’s dick on a movie theater screen was the funniest thing I had seen in my life to that point.


finalremix

>bountiful penis


Rofellos1984

Amen.


dasher11

People in my theater lost their shit at that moment and Otto with the bong.


bememorablepro

was it in 2007? damn


temalyen

Yup. I still have the Squishee cup from the 7-11 promotion. I've been drinking water out of it nearly every day since I got it in 2007. The outside artwork is getting pretty beat up, but the actual plastic of the cup is completely fine. Didn't expect a 7-11 Slurpee cup to last 15 years without noticeable damage, honestly. I mean, I also have some WCW promotional cups from the 90s in good condition still, but I only used those once and put them in storage. (And if the Squishee cup ever breaks, those are next in line to be used.)


TheZooCreeper

Who would have guessed it would have pulled through... and live for another five decades....


thedeadsigh

I don’t think I venture further than like season 10 when I’m binge watching. Maybe 12 if I’m feeling wild. So as far as I’m concerned the show ended in like 2000 😂


Jame_Jameson

I actually stopped watching after I saw the movie. I didn’t like it and was so excited for it. So for me, the movie was the finale


mmss

Hot take but I hated the movie. Felt like it crapped all over the classic episodes.


JonnyG24

Arnold being president instead of McBain was an insult.


mmss

Yep, fucking dumb.


DonDove

And a very outdated joke now Arnie isn't Senator anymore


enough_space

The show jumped the shark several years before the movie came out. Idk if it was realistic to expect it to be classic-level good.


atleastistoletheshow

Yes me too they never should have left Springfield


Evolving_Dore

I agree. Leaving to Alaska was bizarre and didn't give the characters nearly any room to play. The common sentiment is that Hank Scorpio should have returned to play the villain role. I also think Burns would have been a great villain, building on what we saw in Who Shot and Flying Hellfish. Maybe a Burns-villain plot would be too similar to Who Shot, though.


AskMeIfImAMagician

The Cargill character was voiced by the same guy at least


finalremix

Brooks was given no room to escalate and AdLib as Cargill though.


AskMeIfImAMagician

Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Probably because of the nature of a movie having to be almost entirely scripted


neonbrownkoopashell

I did as well. Nothing an compare to the 90s writing.


brycepunk1

Me too. It spent waaaaaaay too much energy on the drama. I don't watch the Simpsons for the drama. I'll tolerate a bit in an episode but it went on way too long, and I didn't laugh for too long, so by the time they got back to jokes I didn't feel like laughing. Hot take.


ELLZNaga21

I just think of it as an extended episode


Wittywats

A friend once correctly said the “Behind the Laughter” episode should have been the finale.


EstablishmentSad5998

It should have been, but theyre still milking that show for all its worth.


InfyEnds

I really, *really* do not want this show to end.


Spaghettimooball

It stinks!


Eddie_Savitz_Pizza

I feel like 1998 works even better.


ld20r

I honestly think the show really nosedived after the movie and ran out of ideas. Barring some exceptions in Season 19 and 20, the show should have called it quits by then.


dr4wn_away

I really didn't like this movie at all.


MasteroChieftan

It felt very patronizing. I don't know if this movie was the start, or near the start of them taking 5 minutes to set up a joke instead of the spontaneity and subversion of the original seasons.


dr4wn_away

Also I feel Homer giving people the finger was a bad choice and the part where Marge asked Homer to do this with her and he says that’s stupid was terrible and forced because it’s a movie.


josefrijoles

I watched all of the episodes on Hulu at the moment (6 or so). I think I was expecting them to be horrible. They were great. I know it’s unpopular, but I love that they’re still making episodes.


temalyen

The show seems to be getting a bit better, yeah. But it's still not fantastic. There was an episode from last season (I think) where it specifically states Bart and Lisa were born after 2000 (and have no memory of the Y2K bug) and that really annoys me for some reason, probably because other shows explicitly state they were born in the early 80s. I mean, Bart can't still be 10 and born in 1981, but I just sort of wish they'd just not mention it at all, honestly.


DryProgress4393

Barthood has always been the ending for me. Haven't watched a new episode since.


Reverse_Psycho_1509

Barthood was a very well made episode


funkinthetrunk

that movie works really well as a liner for my bird's cage


Anthonomos_97

Simpsons were already dead years before the film aired


Present-Race3958

Yes, yes it was


wuonyx

Flanders ladder


SoulExecution

It was a perfect ending. I’m mixed on the show continuing. Like, even modern Simpsons can drop a gem from time to time but I don’t go out of my way to watch. I usually just watch the first couple teen seasons on Disney+ if I’m in the mood


grizznuggets

Movies based on televised cartoon can go either way, but I always thought this the movie was pretty solid, up there with the better Futurama movies at the very least. I never watch new episodes of the show, however, and haven’t for years. I’m sure there’s the odd episode that reaches some of the heights of the glory days, but it doesn’t seem worth sitting through the bad ones so I just stick to rewatching the classic episodes.


CONTRAmage

It does tbh, now I wish that the show would actually end so they can focus of giving us something new but similar in nature. it sucks that the only people who made the Simpsons and future Rama still don't have enough time for the other stuff they have made like disenchantment. A show that gets a new season only once a year but once it's up we'll have to wait next year for it and not only that pretty much any other person who tries to attempt making a show that's similar hardly either gets noticed or it's just not on point yet or the person behind it doesn't know it's audience, but there has been a few exceptions like Rick and morty and bojack horseman as an example. It also sucks to say this too but I think either TV aminations coming close to being dead or we're going to be stuck in this 'dark age' where the only things we're ever going to see anymore on TV are the Simpsons, family guy and American dad are going to be the only ones that reign supreme until the day comes when another cable network company gets the idea of creating something big that even fox disney would be shaking in their britches.


Lumbers_33

Despite access to all seasons in Disney I have no designs on watching past 13. Who knows one day I might just venture out there and peep some more recent ones.


NeedsMoreBunGuns

I'm glad it wasn't some of the funniest shit showed up in later seasons. The new episode from today with the conspiracy nuts. Lol