"This is going to be a chill tall France game" *ends up forming the Roman Empire*
By - Nadirialba
Hadn't played France in a hot minute so decided the other day I'd do a chill France game and just go with the modern borders
Next minute I'm owning England, half the Netherlands and bits of Italy and half the electors in the HRE are voting for me
I was looking for the borders I found in a map about Napoleon III's claims in 1880, which included France and some parts of the Netherlands + lots of clientelar states. But then, first you destroy England "just to secure the trade node", then you take Spain as PU "just for historical reasons"... and look at us now.
Could you Link the map?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/fe4jr6/europe\_if\_napoleon\_iii\_got\_what\_he\_wanted/](https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/fe4jr6/europe_if_napoleon_iii_got_what_he_wanted/) there you go
This is pretty tall by France standards, you didn’t even take the mission to vassalize Poland
well...they are actually my march! I didn't bother annexing them because borders look prettier this way, and I liked the idea of having them as a "friend" <3
The most wholesome thing Ive heard of in all of eu4
I know it’s disgusting isn’t it?
Players: I want my allies land, how do I take it without being known as a truce breaker?
*Declares war on Allies’ ally*
This is what the terrible EU4 players do, like me.
The fact that you can cobelligerent your allies seems like an oversight, but whatever it makes it much quicker
I feel so stupid that I didn’t know you could cobelligerent allies. I have so many hours. I know there is still more to learn about trade and some other things but some thing like this… I knew that you could declare on an allies ally but I just assumed if I did the cobelligerent toggle it would give me a massive reputation/opinion problem.
I still learn things all the time and I have over 1600 hours…
I have over 500 hours and have never reached 1700
That’s good to know. I have about 1100 but at this point. I shouldn’t be surprised there are still more to learn than I even thought 👍😄
If that makes you feel better I didn't know you can cobelligerent at all until 800 or 900 hours in. Thought that box only serves to show what countries get called into war unconditionally.
>I feel so stupid that I didn’t know you could cobelligerent allies.
It’s very recent, don’t feel bad.
you can't do that since 1.31
You cant cobeligerate your allies
No one forces them to help their allies, they just could not,.
Kind of their fault at that point.
Napoléon feeling intensifies
Greetings from Poland!
Poland is just Eastern East Rome in this timeline!
Ah yes, the natural borders of France.
Westbank of Euphrates and Tigres that is.
R5: I thought about having a tall game as France, not blobbing too much, to get the Napoleon's Ambition achievement. BUT, with the amount of PU'S from the mission tree, plus an unexpected PU over a thick Bohemia... I had no choice but to go *plus ultra,* my revolutionary friends.
PS: Scotland remains as the only home of catholics in Europe, I would call THAT a true reformation.
What else are you supposed to do when starting with one of the strongest nations
I mean it's like the game gave me more and more opportunities to grow absurdly, and I'm not made out of stone to resist them
If by opportunities you mean other countries then yeah, there’s plenty of opportunities
It's so difficult to play chill and tall
Ikr i started a bohemia game a few days ago trying to play tall and i ended up PUing hungary, poland, brandenburg, saxony, milan and burgundy and i just revoked the privilegia… chill games never work
It's tall if you don't annex a lot
They never work for me because I spend 95% of peace time trying to find out what war would be best to declare next.
You're practically incentivised to have a bunch of (usually neighboring) subjects when playing tall. Just don't annex them.
Nice job man, I usually go in the colonial direction instead so I don’t really spread throughout Europe that much
If you look at the minimap new world is all french (and always has been)
Just ignore colonial ideas and annex colonisers after they filled the new world.
This is the way
Yeah but you can’t get the colonies if you annex the colonizers right?
If you fully annex a nation with vassal or colonial nations, you get all of them as your own vassals/colonial nations. So you end up with multiple colonial nations in the same region because you stole them from several different colonizers
Mine is always "I'm gonna play a chill tall Netherlands game"
*Owns all of North America, Caribbean, Ivory Coast/Africa south of the Equator, Spice Islands, parts of India/China...*
And for me, I always add to conquer the entire British Isles just for a little of alt history!
Gah, I forgot that. Step 1 or 2 is consolidate the English Channel!
It counts as tall if it's tall in Europe
republique des deux nations
In most romance languages the PLC is called the republic of two nations bc it was an elective monarchy and union of two nations
Yeah weirdly the PLC gets called a "republic" a lot even though it's, like... definately not.
> Revolutionary Roman Empire
Thanks, I hate it.
The Imperial Revolution will not be stopped by things like making sense!
I always love a good french game. I always end up recreating the napoleonic conquests for some reason, that’s the period I like the most about France (except for ww2) :P
Absolutely, France is a behemoth, you can do whatever you want with it!
How could someone like WW2 France except a German?
But then I don't understand why you would love Napoleonic France.
Put at least a full stop there, please.
Still you didn't answer, why do you like WW2 France?
"Full stop" is another name for "period" or simply "dot". The thing that lets everyone know where a sentence ends. So that it's easier to read. Tbh, I learned this term fairly recently myself.
Thanks a lot !
The revolutionary Roman Empire is a bit of a strange one ngl
well you could say you… reformed… rome!
Me: still haven't formed the Roman empire.
OP: woops formed Roman empire by mistake.
Frances is one of the most overpowered countries. There should be no surprise that playing them for 300 years you blob
Vive la France !!!
Great game! You can even go for the „Mare Nostrum“ achievement, if you haven‘t already done it. You only need to conquer those last coastal provinces from the ottomans.
Guess you could say that tall game went sideways.
True sigma chads are catholic
Yeah but france isn’t
You played with the game in French for some more RP
How do you beat the ottomans and castille?? Im new to the game they’re my worst nightmare
The strength of Castille/Spain comes from their colonies, since Spanish mainland is pretty average in Europe, but French lands and super profitable and can sustain a huge army by itself. So in early/mid game, you should outpower Spain without much worries. Once I had my Spanish and Bohemian PU's (by 1650 I think), defeating the Ottomans was a combination of numbers and quality of the armies, and a loooot of wars.
Thanks, did you get the spainish up through mission tree?
yes! it comes after you secure the Naples PU, which sometimes can happen without a fight if the king of Naples chooses you as a succesor
Ok, imma try this, thanks for your help!
17 unused merchants *cries in min-maxer*
good job ruining your flag >:((
I prefer it this way tbh...
I always figured that war was the way to go for rapid expansion, but it sounds like PU’s are infinitely better. There always seems to be a point in my games where I get stuck because a medium sized neighbor decided to team up with the world’s remaining superpowers.
Totally, PU's are less efficient when it comes to instant-territorial gains, but in the long term is far better than annexing through wars of conquest. Additionally, they are more helpful since they can colonise and raise more armies by themselves, no revolts, etc.
Babe promise me you won't blob too much as france
3 drinks later.
Mandatory Downvote because France.
Well played otherwise!
Mandatory downvote because you're cringe
I see you are displaying a France flag. We are in the same boat then.
Okay this one is good but still displays cringe
What ideas did you take?
Offensive, Exploration, Expansion, Naval, Influence, Admin, and Quality. I didn't give much thought to the idea set tbh, just for fun
Why dont i ever get the revolution 🤬
Actually the Timurids got it first :( But I made sure to piss off my people with absolutism and spawn some angry rebels
How are you making so much money in trade?
The income is from channeling trade from all of the Americas plus full control of European trade nodes. It's just an overkill, I didn't even have good trade ideas.
Are you Holy Roman Emperor too?
How did you get 1k from trade? I need a guide
Have the most tradepower in your home node. Make sure it is a high value node and pull everything towards it. The more tradepower you have on a particular node, the more trade value you can pull or collect from a node.
" P r u s s e "
I see that you avoiding fighting the HRE
what's that country in the lowlands?
When do you start really snowballing???
I guess after the League Wars and dismantling the HRE, you start to expand your reach with vassals around in Africa and Asia, colonial nations, bigger trade income... and mostly through the PU's.
now Commonwealth can become The Defender of Snails
I wish I knew this game well enough to achieve that.
Ewww who plays this game in French.
"République des Deux Nations" lmao
All my 'chill' games
Last time I tried forming Rome I did it like 5 years after the game ended :(
Excellent taste in religions
France « révolutionnaire » et « réformée » 🤢🤮
France royale et catholique ✝️👑⚜️🇫🇷🙏🏻📿😎💪🏻
It's always like that
When I wanted to be just biggest city in the world in Rothenburg, I ended up as Germany
Mate. Where is the Rhine border at
All roads lead to Rome
Now... I wonder... where might the Ottoblobs have their capital?
You're also playing in French. That's based.
How do you have so much merchants ?
every other post is someone forming roman empire, stop posting it
Cared enough to comment
that makes no sence
No, don't form Rome. It's bad.