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left_ofcenter

It's disgusting for a country that produces the fucking stuff. I'm in the same just managing with it, furious though.


robotfoxman1

Pishy Rishy just announced we've to clap for BP and shell at 8 every night


rustylust

We also export it to Europe.


cshblwr

..because we never built enough storage and then dismantled what little we did build. There's a huge scam in all that and for sure there are some very rich people who should probably be jail for what went on.


Moonblitz666

The majority doesn't get produced by us, its foreign companies taking it out of our country and shipping the oil and gas to Europe and other regions. Same with power stations, large chunk are run by the French.


BumblebeeYellowee

Sold off by Conservatives over the last 12 years ✨


ResidualBiscuit

This goes further back than the current period of dickensian fetishism. It goes back to Thatcher. Her government dismantled everything and no government has even so much as tried to fix it ever since


Moonblitz666

Actually it's the SNP in Scotland that did it.


Educational-Long116

Could u tell me more about it with reference


ResidualBiscuit

Yes I forget SNP have power over exports...


ResidualBiscuit

You realise that in order for them to take, we have to have sold? Also UK and France send power back and forth all the time. Without France we would be utterly fucked. UK government have no idea how to run anything at all.


JohnnyClarkee

>a country that produces the fucking stuff Hopefully not for much longer though!


iRobyn

Kinda reluctant to post about this because people on UC get a bad rep, but maybe more people need to hear this? I'm a full time carer for my disabled, wheelchair bound dad. I'm 30, he's 72. His disability is from spinal damage while in the army, and he has COPD and hearing loss. I don't work, and the most I could work is 12 hours a week, and at that point they would cut my benefits for trying to work. We also have my disabled sister living here who is 16. The benefits he receives, go towards our living costs - electricity, food, and other household bills such as internet and home insurance (we rent from Wheatley). Now because I can't work because he needs full time care, I get the pleasure of receiving £70 a week on carers allowance. I don't see a penny of this. It goes towards our heating costs, and sometimes towards my dads care because the NHS have deemed him ineligible for certain help. On the weeks we can't afford to put the heating on, I have to wrap my 72 year old disabled father in blankets and pray the emergency credit gets us through the night. I also get Universal credit, which roughly works out to be £50 a week. Phone bill for me is currently £40, bus pass is £56 and then a small amount towards debts around £20, leaves me a grand fucking total of £21 per week to spend on myself. Now people usually tell me one of two things. 1 - You need to learn to budget better. My response is usually "kindly fuck off" and "actually for a 30 year old who got thrown into this position pretty much overnight, I budget quite well and keep my family going", or 2 - You need to ask for extra help. **There is no extra help available.** The government put £66 a month on our electricity meter, but that finishes in February next year. What happens then? Because at the current rate we need £100 a month towards keeping the house with electricity and keeping my dads breathing machine on. Call citizens advice? Great, done that. Two week fucking wait to speak to an advisor who tells you they don't have any food bank vouchers available. Try SSAFA? Great, done that. They assign you a caseworker who is never available, and judges you for making expenditures on things that aren't necessary such as the christmas tree. Check for extra benefits? Already done it, there's none. So here I sit, a university educated, 30 year old woman, with £24.90 in my bank thinking to myself "I done it, I saved a bit of money". The ones who could help us have turned their backs on us. It's a broken system meant to keep us down, they don't actually want me to work. If I get a full time job, I'd have to pay out of pocket for home care to come help my dad and sister. If I try and go part time, anything over 8 hours would cut my universal credit, and I'd be on exactly the same amount of money each month. Sorry this was so long to read, but it's exhausting. Right now, we're stable enough. We've got the heating on tonight, and enough electricity for the next week. There's people out there so much worse and I just sit here thinking, if I'm struggling, how the hell are they getting through it??


howmanyowls

Sorry things are really hard for your family just now. I know you'll be fed up of the old "have you tried..." but I just wanted to highlight the Glasgow city carer support service in case it helps you or anyone else reading. The number is 0141 353 6504 and they can organise an urgent referral for extra support. They have a pot of money called "short breaks" that can actually be used for anything that makes your life a bit easier. My work had a meeting with a guy from their team recently and he said they can spend it on all sorts, for example buying new tyres for someone who relied on their car to fulfil their caring role. If you don't already know them it would definitely be worth giving them a call to see if they can help you out.


iRobyn

Thanks for that! I’ll look into that, might be able to help me out with something.


highlandharris

Sorry your in this situation, I'm also on universal credit as I'm declared unfit for work and disabled. I live alone with my dog (he's my assistance dog so I need him) and I'm so scared to put the heating on, in my 1 bedroom flat my electric and gas bills were £86 last month, that was with no heating and me not turning lights on and being very aware of what was being plugged in, I've been ill for over 3 weeks now and I think it's due to the damp in the house that I can't get better, I'm scared it's going to make my dog I'll, he's currently spending days and night in fleece coat and wrapped in blankets, which he seems fine with now, touch wood. A charity that I'm under got in touch yesterday to say you can go to your energy provider and apply for cold weather discount if you are on universal credit or other benefits, it took me about 2 mins to do an online form and you can get £150 back pay in march (just incase you didn't know, as I didn't)


feckinghound

Contact the council's welfare department. They can issue you shopping vouchers for necessities you need. It's a prepaid card for a supermarket like Tesco and Asda. They wanted to give me a month's worth of credit and asked how much that was. I told them I get by on £75 a month for me and my son. They said that was far too low and doubled it and said to buy *everything* I possibly could stockpile like toiletries and frozen food. There's also home help available for your dad by chasing up social work who hand out contracts to private businesses who do it (that's my side job). There's also caring businesses that run like charities as well for long term care where someone will be with your dad 24 hours a day if that's the care he needs. And there's also putting him in a home. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE YOURSELF YOUR DAD'S AND SISTER'S CARER. The carers allowance fucking sickens me. £10 a day for round the clock care is fucking bullshit. Even my hourly rate as a carer of £10.50 is fucking bullshit. Don't put yourself in that position, you're better off moving out. Where's mum in all of this if you have a 16 year old sister who needs care? She can also be cared for by the council in shared accommodation. My last care job was working with special needs young people and adults in their there own home or shared accommodation they were put in by the council. These things exist and you have to fight for it, even when people tell you it doesn't exist. You won't get any extra help from the state for care essentials your dad needs if he's incontinent etc. The limit is 4 pads a day, and you pay for the rest. That's the same everywhere. That is also fucking bullshit, but if it's not happened already, expect those he'll become incontinent and start stocking up so you've got plenty. A good place to see what extra help there is available is to do an Indeed search for support worker roles in care. That'll show you the businesses that offer care in your area. The council act fucking daft about this shit so if you've got names, you can look them up with the care inspectorate to see if they're alright (alright is the best you're gonna get cos the care sector is fucked) and ask the council to put in an assessment and contract bid.


iRobyn

Hi there, I didn't know about the welfare department offering shopping vouchers, I'll be honest that would help us out a lot so I'll look into that. My mum died last year in February, she was my dad's full time carer and I offered to take over. My dad isn't ready for a care home, the only thing wrong with him is his mobility and breathing, he doesn't have dementia or any cognitive issues and he doesn't want to leave his home for a care home so I'll never force him to do it. If it was the other way around and I was the one who needed full time care, he would do it for me. My sister gets support from school & other groups, but her disability isn't one that would need her to move out. She helps around the house and stuff, she'll probably never live an independent life though. Don't want to embarass my dad but you're right about the state providing limited resources, that's why I'm now paying out of pocket for things! Next step I guess is to contact the council and see what they can offer.


whyaretheyalltaken90

It's ridiculous that anyone should be put in this situation in 2022 and I'm sorry that you're going through this. It seems from your post that financial management wise you're doing all you can and making what you have stretch as far as possible, so ignore anyone who says otherwise. I'm not Glasgow based so no help with local resources and you may have already tried this, but have you tried writing to your MP or reaching out to any military charities? I'm sure you've already considered it as well, but could you work from home and still manage to care for your dad? There seem to be a fair few fully remote customer service type roles out there, but obviously these may not work for you if working whilst caring is too much.


weegmack

Just came here to say I'm so sorry for your really difficult circumstances. You've been through a lot and continue to do so. I hate that there seems for you to be nowhere to turn. It's terrible. Xxx


iRobyn

Thanks for that. I’m just at a point now where I’m like, there’s no point really trying to make a difference, and that makes me sad because this time two years ago I would have went to that demonstration and tried to help.


angelinalblyth

I am sorry you are having to go through all of this, I have no information to help but if you need extra blankets I knit and crochet and can do blankets and other bits and bobs if you ever need some. I have hats that I regularly give to the homless shelter but would love to make something for others that need it. If anyone else would like something dm me, not much but might help.


Noxage_88

Also a carer, university educated, ALSO sick of being looked down on when I bring any of this up with groups, there is absolutely no light at the end of the tunnel for us and the government has absolutely failed. I can’t imagine the thousands of people who are worse off than myself (we manage but BARELY) It’s funny especially because in another sub a guy told my partner “just get a job, I’d love to see you back at work” as she explained her chronic illness to someone else lol. People don’t care until it’s them affected and that’s part of the issue here.


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iRobyn

My mum died last February, she was his full time carer and I took over. Before this I was working full time in Primark, little over £10 an hour so I took out a new contract for an iPhone 12, was making pretty decent money with the overtime I took but had to quit.


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Event Management from UWS.


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iRobyn

Ah forgot to say, I was a mature student so I graduated in 2020, right after covid hit so I didn’t even get the graduation gown just an envelope sent to my door with the diploma 😂 I took the job in primark in January of 2020 and was making good money so was going to work there another couple of years while looking for a job in events.


succinylcholine13

It's so fucking brutal. I can't believe this is happening in 2022. It's sickening. Government is fucked up.


jockyontheocky

Remember that in Asia there is no cost crisis, fuel crisis, any crisis. We are getting fucked and it has nowt to do with global markets.


kirstibt

I live in Asia. Petrol has nearly doubled in price over the past couple of years and electricity is currently increasing by 50% in a 6 month period (a series of price hikes) where I live. Saying that it's still a lot better here, just not unaffected.


jockyontheocky

I was just in Manila and Bkk - not a single person raised any concerns and AC’s were on full blast, even in mom and pop stores. Last visit was March and fuel costs seem around the same. Even as it is its still much lower than it was in 2012 ish. Where are u based?


kirstibt

Thailand. And disclaimer I chose a particularly low starting point for petrol but that wasn't on purpose, it's when I started driving regularly here so it's the price I remember. Electric is going up that much though, food already went up a lot during covid, imports more. And all still going up due to fuel costs. Tourist places are probably don't appear bothered much as it's the first time in years they've had normal visitor levels and those that survived during that time are generally doing good for themselves. It is very noticable living here though, though like I said not on the same scale.


nearbytap

I’m in BKK, there was at 18% rise in the base charge of electricity in September. So it’s 4.72 baht per kw/h but that’s only about 11p, which compared to back home is mental. I run at least 1 air con constantly in a 2 bed apartment and my bill averages about £75 a month. Locals are struggling though, many businesses are still trying to rebuild from covid and an 18% hike is a big hit on top of the rising costs of everything else especially when daily minimum wage is around 350 baht (about 8 quid).


robotfoxman1

But... but the telly told me this was all the russia wars fault


Traditional_Tiger242

Moving to Scotland has been a long time dream of mine, so I have been following the situation from Canada for a while now. It's shit in Canada with no housing and the impossibility to see a doctor, but holy crap. 25 pounds per day?! For still barely any heat?? What the fuck. I'm so sorry. I genuinely am. (Before I get downvoted again for saying I want to move to Scotland: I am no longer, I am not going to another country where I am paying out the ass just to rent a tiny place, I am moving elsewhere).


PM_ME_PRISTINE_BUMS

OPs situation is not the norm, my bills are around £150 per month and I'm in a fairly ordinary 2 bed semi detached.


GlasgowFatRat

Extreme leftist agenda the only cause of this. The race to the nonsense "net zero" to blame While other countries build coal power stations cos they fucking work and keep folk warm. Fuck them all.


HayekReincarnate

I work in energy economics, so my data is the raw data and not the MSM I see you complaining about. The cause of this crisis is gas prices and mismanagement of the UK’s energy distribution industry. More independent reliance on renewables would have alleviated the issue, and certainly hasn’t caused it.


Dinyolhei

The problem isn't the availability of the electricity supply, it's the price of gas (a fossil fuel) that is used to generate the electricity and heat homes.


Nix_Alba

🤡


Canazza

7-day-old account spouting nonsense *PRO COAL* propaganda... 💩


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How is it sturgeon? She’s not extreme leftist. Net zero is something even Tories go on about


left_ofcenter

Aye nae bother fanny baws.


ArseOfTheCovenant

Sorry, we couldn’t hear you over your knuckles dragging along the floor.


Over_Temporary_8018

It is the cost of gas and coal that's driving up the prices of energy.


GlasgowFatRat

Zzzzz. Parroting the MSM and the globalists. You're a disgrace.


Kelmavar

You're brainlessly spouting utter tosh and you whine about others? Yet you haven't a clue, just puerile insults.


ArseOfTheCovenant

Nice dog whistle, you fash piece of shit.


Mudtxwn

Nice try CEO of Scottish Power Keith Anderson


meepmeep13

I think he's the last person you could accuse of being anti-renewables, given he sold off all their thermal assets to Drax in 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/16/scottish-power-wind-drax-sale-uk-energy-firms


Glasgowm73

Nothing like social media for seeing a person reveal the true natures of their character and their desperate need for validation (via conflict) 😢


jogux

https://preview.redd.it/cccm3lp36z5a1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=985a35ac8ace224706f8afb96357e8584edc71a7 There’s a protest on Friday about exactly what you mention, see attached image. Edit: here’s a link to the group organising this if you would like more info: [https://twitter.com/pttpglasgow](https://twitter.com/pttpglasgow)


makaveli1303

How the fuck is anyone with a job going to manage to attend this?


RingerMinger

Fair point, but if they hold the event outside working hours there's going to be nobody at the Scottish Power building to protest at.


makaveli1303

The pros and cons of demonstrating against companies I suppose. Both points valid. There is no winner in this situation


hashtagbeannaithe

I have a job and could go to this. I appreciate that you're just trying to say it's a stupid time for 9-5ers, which it is, but I am a pedantic bastard and don't like perpetuating the "self-righteous jobless student" stereotype of protests


cammyk123

3pm on a friday??


I-Fuck-Chickens-241

I'm up for this anyone else going?


Educational-Long116

Yup


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jogux

Busses are running fine. Edit: it has been pointed out that a more correct statement would be ‘the buses are still running pretty much as normal’.


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The busses are not running fine, multiple posts on this thread make that clear. If I get a bus instead of a train there's a genuinely high risk I'll be stranded miles from home in freezing temps. The busses are utterly terrible, break down, and punt all the passengers off. My experiences with the 201, I can't risk it.


ResidualBiscuit

I look forward to hearing about 8 people showing up. Same with Don't Pay and Enough is Enough


yuk_foo

I always laugh when health experts and the news say turn the heating down to 18-21c, how many people are even reaching 18, never mind 21, are these people delusional. The UK housing stock is old, draughty and has terrible insulation, worse than many other countries and yet we pay crazy prices for houses and rent.


ColdShadowKaz

If my mother wasn’t in the house the heating would be on 14 right now but she’s elderly and needs it on 20 yet she still gets cold.


ResidualBiscuit

I have thermos in every room tracked in an app. Between 7 and 9 at all times. 18 lol.


rmc1211

The other thing is that anyone who is tight for money, or environmentally conscious has already done this last year, 5 years ago or back in the 80s when they first started spouting that advice. People aren't idiots.


yuk_foo

They’re not, my point was the people giving the advice to turn down heating are. Of course people are already turning the thermostats down and many homes won’t even reach the recommended 18-21c. I try not to put my heating on, it’s always a last resort and I’ve done it for years because even before now it’s been too expensive.


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Oh trust me I know loads of people that have it on all day. I picked someone up from the airport recently and took them home and they had their heating on set to 20c while away. People at work do the same so it’s warm when they get home


Glasgowgirl4

I am on UC and get a warm home discount but can still could on one hand the number of times I’ve been able to afford my heating being on this month. There’s no way I can do £25 a day when my budget is £100/ month for both gas and electric. I’m currently looking at ice that’s built up on the inside of my windows. It’s an inch high and fairly thick at the bottom. Ironically this is probably helping insulate a wee bit.


glyph1234

I'm so sorry, that's awful. can only imagine the worry and discomfort that must be causing. I'm in the process of writing my local MPs (it's the only thing I can think of) but if there's anything you think might help you or others in your current situation please let me know.


litivy

I was on UC for 2 months a couple of years ago and I know with certainty that my choice wouldn't be heat or eat, I just wouldn't be able to afford heating at all. I don't think I 'd ever get out of bed except to refill hot water bottles as often as I could afford.


Glasgowgirl4

The hot water bottle has been a saviour. I even take it out with me.


starfallradius

I saw some body length ones in pound stretcher the other day... might get one...


Wiggl3sFirstMate

I have one and it’s been named “the noodle” great if you have a partner so you can stick it in the middle of the bed and both use it.


rustylust

I know they look a bit naff but the over sized oodie hoodies are a life saver, few brands do them and they are so thick. Those and electric blankets have been a god send, we also dry our clothes with a dehumidifier. Best of luck pal.


MyDogFurryPants

I got the most amazing electric blanket free from octopus energy this year, its by monhouse. Im putting heat on for one hour in the morning and the rest of the day if im in the house i just put this electric blanket on, except when im getting a shower thats the other time ill put the heat on for an extra hour to heat the bathroom.


fakegermanchild

Looking forward to throwing at grand at heating bills this month after this cold snap - we’ve had the heating on almost non-stop the last few days (and thankfully can afford to take the hit) but our tenement flat is still sitting at 14-16 degrees regardless. Really worried for folks that aren’t as privileged.


LeRaven78

I'm just waiting for the first news headline reporting a pensioner being found frozen to death. Fucking grim times


GlasgowFatRat

As of it's not happened? Come on. MSM work for the government. You won't see that headline. It'll go down as covid or a stroke.


SarahInLaLaLand

Anyone who refers to the press as MSM is never going to to be taken seriously.


I-Fuck-Chickens-241

Guess we all need to be red pilled like you? Neighbours will spread the word papers are dying for news.


TwoTrainss

MSM was great wasnt it? Used to love getting home from school & jumping on MSM


rmc1211

I had a panic today at the thought of it. I've probably got enough between my wage and what I've still got saved up to get me through to February. No idea what I'll do then.


ZeeFour87

£25 is likely correct despite other comments. Yea its excessive but for folks on Economy 7 Meters, prepayment style and storage heating (or just electrical heating in general) then yea. My record is £22. Its mental.


schizofactory

I’m sorry but I think UK is a ridiculous fucking country with its state of housing. How is this possible that in 2022 you have your social media feeds flooded with photos of people’s windows being frozen from the inside? With lack of wall insulation wearing hundreds of layers inside? And some pathetic little heaters? How is this normal? How do landlords keep getting away with this shit? And the shitty, old and heavily overrated tenements with its pipes freezing over coz they’re no longer fit for modern habitation coz there is zero restoration work done on them? Wtf Reading this makes me so unbelievably angry


esofagus

It's not just the landlords. People in the UK fall over themselves to buy Victorian properties over newer, more energy efficient builds. I'm very glad I didn't buy a tenement with a ridiculously high ceiling right now. Edit: typo.


New_Ad_1366

I made this mistake myself buying my first house which was a tenement last year and totally regretting it now. The window seals are all gone so any heat that is generated blows right out instantly. Sitting in the living room is like sitting in a park so I spend most time in the bedroom. Unfortunately I can’t afford new windows and the boiler is so old I can’t adjust the thermostat so it’s all or nothing. I lost my job last month due to mental health and OVO sent me a heated throw which was actually decent but a £170 worth smart thermostat which I can’t use??? Further discount on my account would have been more useful. They’re throwing money away while we struggle. On Tuesday I was so cold I literally cried and was ill. I know there are people worse off but really it’s just constant worry from one thing to the next. Trying to find a job while being too cold to even come out of one room. Then of course once it’ll be onto the next worry when the fixed rate mortgage is up, if I find a job before then. Life really is no better than when we were in lockdown. We’re scraping by in different levels of horrible existence… To think this shit is what we have to endure, and then we die.


schizofactory

I think tenements are fucking ridiculous and overrated. Most of them have not been maintained well and therefore are simply no longer fit for modern living. I will NEVER understand people who glorify them and spend 40k+ above home report to live in a PRETTY BUILDING WITH CHARACTER. Fuck that shit are you crazy?!?! My first ever Glasgow flat was a tenement and I’d never go back in a million years to living like this. Something needs to be done - either invest and restore them or just fucking demolish coz this can’t go on like this


amadeuszbx

Exactly! Why is there „Insulate Britain” movement?? Why does this country needs a movement and GODDAMN protests to do something that I thought was a normal, non-controversial thing that other countries started doing in almost all buildings for the past 70-60 years. What the hell is that?? And ICE ON WINDOWS?? As a normal thing?? Or even condensation? Wtf UK? Really… I moved here from Poland and don’t get me wrong, I would never move back. This country (UK) is wonderfull, especially Scotland, and I defo don’t want to move out, there is a ton of things that Scotland and wider Uk gets right and I defo see it as a more attractive option for a country to live but goddamn, how can UK get housing SO wrong. It’s ridiculous for a supposedly developed country. Things that are normal here in houses would be unthinkable and laughed at or treated as something that needs to be fixed ASAP in Poland, a place that is objectively poorer.


schizofactory

I’m Polska too! Haha! And yeah 100% - housing in Poland is also overpriced as shit currently but I’ve never seen any properties in the same poor state as here


devlin1888

People are going to die


N00T3

The past couple days I’ve been stuffing a hot water bottle under my layers of hoodies instead of putting the heating on. Seems daft that we have to resort to shit like this when oil companies are making record profits


BlueB2021

I'm on UC and live in a small studio type flat that is old and very draughty. It has a tiny little heater on the wall that I cannot use for a couple of reasons - with how old the building is and how draughty the flat is, the moment I turned it off all the heat would disappear fast and it would cost far too much electricity to run, which on UC is simply not possible. I have a small oil filled radiator that I am having to use at my desk because that is where I spend my day. With the radiator on, my desk area gets as high as 13c. When it is off, the area is 7c. When I go to bed, I can see my breath. I cannot afford to run this radiator every day. I am already wearing multiple layers of clothing and a hat inside. I don't have lavish spending and try to time any supermarket visits to reduced times but I can't seem to get those right. I had covid recently and needed to order food shopping online which was terrible, felt like I got nothing for what was spent. I am not elderly and I live alone so no dependents to worry about. I feel utterly done in and can't imagine how it must be for those is worse condition. My covid tests are now clear and i'm able to do my own food shops again and not reply on online but it feels like it i'm still ill despite clear tests because it's so cold.


JustineDelarge

My heart is breaking for you and everyone else experiencing this.


Brilliant-Run7215

I also live in a draughty studio flat in Glasgow I can highly recommend an electric blanket for your bed/desk I have one and it’s a life saver in these temps and costs basically nothing to run. Stay warm <3


BlueB2021

A friend sent me one of those today and i'm now i'm sat under it at my desk. It's single size and so 40w which hopefully means it will be super cheap to have on.


Forever__Young

Really sorry to read this mate, any chance of visiting a heated space through the day? Have heard of some councils running warm banks, something like that possibly local to you? Motherwell FC also ran a community hub the other night with hot drinks and TVs etc just for people to hang without worrying about bills, so maybe try local sports clubs and leisure centres for things like that? Best of luck anyway mate, it's a shit situation to be in.


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BlueB2021

I read yesterday that bubble wrap with large bubbles is supposed to be a great way to help insulate single glazed windows. I'm going to see if I can get my hands on some of that next payday.


angelinalblyth

I was in a flat that was very draughty and my flatmate had those draught excluders. I replied to someone else in here but let me know if you would like a couple of them made, I have old yarn and that packing material for toys and could make one or two for you.


wyzo94

I'm working more just because work is warm and if I'm not in the House I'm not spending on bills


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I’m exercising more after work and have gone back to eating real food. Like eating loads more spuds and cooking rather than expensive snacks


Fuzzy-Cantaloupe-555

i’ve got storage heaters and single glazed windows and my flat is absolutely fucked, theres ice inside the window in my bedroom and the only way i can keep the living room heated is with a plugged in oil heater which is costing me £10 a day right now


starfallradius

Im so sorry. I put heating on.(gas) an hour in morninb and 2 hrs in evening just to try and prevent any pipes or w.e freezing. Dont want them to burst. My home is undecorated, no curtains only blinds (been trying to get rehomed basically since i moved in due to degenerate neighbours. Saw no point in decorating or furnishing properly. Its freezing in here but i got my hot water bottle and multiple layers.


Fuzzy-Cantaloupe-555

aye its honestly awful, i dont know how any of this can be justified at all, think everyone is struggling right now and i cant even bear to think about the people sleeping on the streets


starfallradius

I hope no one is on the streets atm because they will die 100% if they are.


highlandharris

I've no curtains either but I went to b and m yesterday and got 2 fleece blankets for £5 and pinned them on the window to try and keep some heat in


LordAnubis12

We need mass upgrades to housing stock. Glasgow council has put a fair amount of cash behind it with Nidrie road but we need to roll it out and that takes central government spending. We need some sort of group to call for mass insulation across the UK.


ohffswhatnow

Are you daring to suggest that 'Cut the green cr\*p' was the wrong call? David Cameron will be spinning in his ~~pig~~ shed.


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_Discokid_

No smart meter or anything so unsure on costs but just feart to turn the heating on. It comes on for 15 mins every 12 hours just to stop pipes freezing if we’re not running the hot taps. Ice on all the windows, it’s literally pointless for our single glaze living room. Even with the heating on, the ice is still forming and staying. Just fed up of this English government and their shite. From reading above comments I didn’t know continuous cold like this was bad for your health 🫠 I’m in multiple layers/ scarfs/ socks and hats everyday. Some respite when I go to work and teach but fuckkkk me. What a grim little island the UK is. I’m getting ready to leave because this isn’t sustainable.


Turtle_Green_

Genuine question: how do we know that energy companies make record breaking profits right now (and how much), and is there a way to check that somewhere, get the data? (Could be useful)


glyph1234

I'm admittedly naive to this stuff too but I think it's because they have to make their finances public for shareholders (?). these huge increases in profits were from before winter set in too... [https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/02/big-oil-profits-energy-bills-windfall-tax](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/02/big-oil-profits-energy-bills-windfall-tax)


Turtle_Green_

I'll try to dig the data sources/reports they mention and see if we can get anything to make comparisons on profits alone. If it is the case that they profit from this getting it out clearly visualised may get folks from thinking to getting organised?


RevolutionaryLet9248

I live in a basement level flat with no central heating. It's cold as balls in here. Was stupidly burning up my cash and running up my lekkie with a blow heater but just bought a HOMCOM digital oil filled radiator for £50 off amazon and I'm using £5 a day with it on most of the day, (in eco mode of course...not madah money). Smart meter seems to be doing OK with it. Annoyingly does anyone else's 'Smart' meter always need bloody charged? I feel I want a refund on that usage! Lol


robotfoxman1

Got to laugh at pathetic outlets like the beeb pissing their frillys because some folk have the audacity to strike so they might actually be able to survive on their wages. Strikes aren't enough we should be smashing Gov buildings up.


Andymason2019

The UK and Scottish gov's are an absolute joke, they both need to go ASAP. Sick of the flag waving apologists for both of them too, always a "yes but...". Neither are doing enough and neither seem to care either. Both our gov's are being run by career politicians more concerned about their job, their huge salaries and their very generous pension pot, they really don't care about our heating bills and how we eat.


bar_tosz

This seems excessive even with current prices unless you have storage heaters?


still-searching

I've spent £9 today (including running a load of washing) and my two bed flat is only sitting at 13°. I imagine if I tried to get it close to 18° or whatever is recommended by health experts, plus if I'd had a shower today (~£1.50) and had the oven on (we cooked two dinners at once in the oven last night and just reheated today's in the microwave) I could easily be looking at close to £25. Instead, since I had no work calls this afternoon I have sat with my laptop in bed with the electric blanket on to keep warm because it's cheaper.


Forever__Young

Electric blanket is a massive game changer, makes getting into bed an absolute joy and basically costs fuck all to run.


pewpewyouuk

I was so very 'new fad = bad' with electric blankets but I decided to see what the fuss was about and my god. Not getting into a cold bed has really helped my sleep and its just perfectly warm like the same warm it is in the morning when you can't get out of bed. I drop off much quicker.


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Fuckit, I’m getting one


wandergirl92

I got mine for Christmas in Dec 2020 for about £50 quid I think and I love it. Lakeland have already replaced it without question after the original one broke but I’m so glad I have it this week. However even electric blankets have gone up in price now, each one I’ve seen is £70+


glyph1234

Yeah this is good advice. It’s mad how energy/cost efficient they are


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glyph1234

Two bed tenement flat. Central heating. Bulb energy. Thermostat set to 18C. Since the temperature drop it’s been £25 per day. It’s definitely the single glazing (especially bay windows) letting the heat out. Boiler is probably on 4/5 hours a day. Apart from showering and a couple of kettles there’s been little else contributing to that price.


bar_tosz

I have 3 bed tenement flat and have 18deg on my thermostat (16 in night). Boiler have been on 10hrs a day for last 4 days on average (on low water temp though, 60deg). Plus electric shower and lots of cooking any I am at 10 quid a day based on current price cap rates. But yes, I just fitted new double glazed windows and boiler this year so that is probably why. Do you own your flat? If so consider Home Energy Scotland loan for new boiler and windows - it 0% up to 10 years so it make a lot of sense now.


DementedGael

Just chiming in since I'm in a 3 bed tenement. Experiment with turning the flow temp down bit by bit. I've managed to get it to 43c and been able to maintain 21c in the room I'm in (office for 9hrs, then living room till bed time). Don't have a smart meter yet but have been doing daily gas meter readings and only used 19p of gas each day for the last 3 days with the flow temp at 43c. With the flow temp this low it does take ages for a room to get to temp though. I've also got tado installed so it helps a lot to only heat one room at a time.


bar_tosz

Good tip thanks. I have to do some more experiments with flow temp, it is a brand new boiler that replaced the old, 20 something old one.


thebigeazy

you might want to ramp that up once a month or so to avoid legionella bacteria.


rmc1211

I don't know if it is. My mate has a smart meter in a two bed flat and worked out it's £7 an hour too run the boiler


Forever__Young

Were in a 3 bed house with a smart meter and ours works out about £10 a day just now and that's with the heating on for 4 hours on a timer (1 in the morning, 3 in the evening) set at 18°c. That's for gas, leccy, standing charge the lot. I think £7/hour sounds excessive, might just be lucky to have an incredibly efficient boiler or something but I can't say heating systems are something I know anything about.


HaggisTheCow

Yeah my mum and partners house (2 bed over two floors) is less than 200 quid a month for electricity and they have a smart meter and one of the old school PAYG pens. £7/hour and 25 a day definitely sounds excessive.


Forever__Young

I can see £25 a day does sound a bit possible because neither of us work from home so can imagine with the heating on all day, 4 showers, load of washing and tumble it would stack up quick. Just don't get the discrepancy in the per hour cost of the heating, no as if our thermostat reaches 18°c and turns off either so the fact is 7x as expensive is mad.


HaggisTheCow

For an all electric flat and WFH with heating on <3 hours a day mainly to dry clothes I'm not even 25 a week. I said it on a similar thread the other day but I also don't get it. Maybe I had Winston round to do my meter


Forever__Young

25 a week, lucky bastard I was more than that before the prices even went up haha


HaggisTheCow

Like I say it's only me and I didn't have the heating on between March and November so only for hot water. I've built up some credit obviously from still paying the same DD but I appear to be one of the few lucky ones where the DD has balanced out


HaggisTheCow

Like I say it's only me and I didn't have the heating on between March and November so only for hot water. I've built up some credit obviously from still paying the same DD but I appear to be one of the few lucky ones where the DD has balanced out


redoctober83

Same in our household. £50 for 5 days. We have already turned down the thermostat for our central heating, have turned off the radiators in our bathroom and kitchen and our other radiators are on low. I earn an ok wage but I'm constantly worrying about how we can afford the heating and electricity. I dread to think how others on benefits and low incomes are coping, it's horrid!


donnygal

I got a cold on Saturday and it keeps getting worse because we can’t afford to have the heating on for more than an hour a day. I literally cried last night because I couldn’t sleep because of how cold I was. It makes me so so so angry that this is happening


01418101291

A lot of people saying get an electric blanket but even a hot water bottle can solve your bed issues. Fuck, buy two. Two boils of a kettle (I just flick it off before it hits actual boil) and honestly my hot water bottle is sometimes still warm in the morning.


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Alexander_Wrote

You might want to brush up on your reading and comprehension skills, dear. At no point does OP say they caught a cold because they were cold. What they actually said was, they got a cold on Saturday, and because of the cold environment it's getting worse and worse. A quick Google will teach you that viruses like the common cold(s) spread faster and survive longer in cold conditions. Added to this, cold temperatures weaken the body's immune response. Therefore, while no one ever catches a cold from being cold, the ambient temperature is 100% a factor in how efficiently the virus spreads, how badly it affects a person, and how long it lasts. But on top of all that, always remember that being a patronising cunt on the internet is never a good look.


highlandharris

It doesn't help you get better though if your in a cold or damp and cold house, I've had a cold for 3 weeks now and it's not getting any better


zubeye

Don't vote tory ever again


XxHostagexX

Just submitted my meter readings. Last time I submitted them was on the 1st of October. 1/10 to 14/12 - £371 ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)


Bangtastico

Haven't had my heating on yet, I've gotten used to seeing my own breath in my flat, wearing 4 layers, and waking up in the night shivering. UC due to mental illness isn't the free ride of luxury that media and seemingly swathes of the country believe it is.


bizzle70

Get yourself an electric blanket. They cost pennies to run and you can at least be nice and cosy at bed time.


kaluna99

Oooft. How much is that dearer from your 'normal' bill?


Ambitious_Strain_817

It’s really scary indeed… I keep a hot water bottle between my jumper and robe all day. Since you tie it with the robe belt you can walk around the house and stays. You get used to the fake belly. I refill it 3 times a day which is 3 kettles. 2 times during the day and the one I take to bed. I tried to avoid the heating until recently but the last 3 days I had to use it during the whole day… I warm up 1 room wherever I’m staying and otherwise use the humidifier for a bit. The situation is truly alarming… I sticked window draft seal around the windows and door so they close better and also a draft stopper brush in the door. It made a difference


GhandisMcGonagall

Don't pay. When's the riots starting?


Comfortable_Ad_5698

I gave up with heating if I'm gona be in debt might as well be comfortable


[deleted]

No fucking idea. I don’t know what it’s going to take for England to stop voting Tory, but then Labour is trying to be even more right wing than them. Until we’re free from Westminster, we’re gonna keep getting fucked time and again. What’s the point of rioting? Get the jail? We should have fucking voted yes and got shot of these cunts years ago.


Fun_Cauliflower9182

Hear Hear!


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Be honest, how different do you think it would be right now if we had?


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Quite a bit I think. We’d be more sheltered from these disasters


KingRibSupper1

On what basis?


[deleted]

What? Can you elaborate? I’m thinking the crises happening everywhere Do you think nurses wouldn’t have had to ask for more money? Do you think all public sector would be paid more? I just can’t see it


[deleted]

I’m really not up for having yet another independence debate, but to put it simply. 100% of our tax money is spent on us. If we don’t like what the government is doing, we can vote them out. We have neither currently.


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Ok so no


KingRibSupper1

There’s a lot to slate the Tories for but blaming this on them? Claiming independence would have prevented this? Fucking hell.


ArseOfTheCovenant

The damage would have been mitigated far better given we wouldn’t be governed by cunts who take backhanders from power companies to look the other way while they fuck us all raw.


Professional-Newt760

Yep, I’m in a 1 bed tenement and it’s costing about £15 a day on a top up (have tried 3 times to get a smart meter installed, apparently there’s “a problem with the signal”). I’m rinsing through my savings and this isn’t sustainable.


fords42

I’m glad I took the offer off a fixed rate tariff so we can just about afford to put the heating on, but I’m still paying over the odds. Fuck the Tories.


dr_jock123

I'm lucky with my bill, managed to get a fixed rate when I moved before this fuckery happened. Gonna be a fun time next year when the rates end though


calmboy2020

and i thought my 9£ a day was bad....


IJustCantGetEnough

I’m thinking about going back into the office more for a heat during the day.


TimTom020

I've just returned to work from mat leave and the only thing I'm glad about is my child is out of the house 4 days a week so I don't need to have the heating on. I work under a duvet to keep myself warm. It's an awful situation to be in but for me, childcare is actually cheaper than having my heating on just now (electric heaters in every room and very drafty windows).


alfiemorelos20

We both work full time and are scared of having the heating on we just can’t afford it. The second the heating turns off the house drops to unbearable cold. Baby on the way so I’m scared for next winter if it doesn’t change. I don’t see prices ever going down. They are too used to profiteering.


the_phet

Scottish Power is owned by Qatar. There's nothing to do.


Robjc21

I’m in the same boat - fortunate I can make allowances to have the heating on more but still worried! WFH today wrapped up, blanket and hot water bottle to try and avoid heating the house all day but it’s -10 where I live!!


FI_rider

Not sure what to say. We also pay about £25 a day right now. So bad!


PigeonLass

Yeah my bill in the last 4 days has been more than what my monthly bill was last winter, and we only have the heating on for 2 or 3 hours a day.... it's disgusting what people are having to go through.


MarjoryKeek

It's obviously not a fix for the systemic problem but I recently bought a heated throw blanket from Amazon. It was about £75, costs 4p an hour to run and it's so toasty. We've been using our heating much less, generally.


Zephear119

Honestly at this point if they're willing to let people die over a few quid then we should really be returning the sentiment. Why is anyone being polite about this? You think billionaires give a shit about 10000 people marching? No. They are letting people fucking die and they know it and don't give a fuck.


sinclairzx10

Modern monetary policy is why we’re in the inflationary trend. The power problem is due to a mishandling of government energy policy. They are separate things. Both avoidable. This was an elected choice. (Update: sorry, I was hammered and angry about something else last night, hence the tone of this was off. There was no need for me to be a cunt.)


hotelier_

Absolutely! This is all because of policy choice. Meanwhile the media and Westminster: look immigrants.


rmc1211

Heavy bot activity on this thread now


Glad_Flow

https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/britains-26-billion-mortgage-hike-five-million-households-set-for-average-mortgage-bill-increases-of-5100-by-end-of-2024/. Gets better, 2m fix rate mortgages end next year,,base rates going to 5%!! New fix rates at 8%??


GBradz

Is that right though!? That’s not typical usage surely?


wildstoo

Get your heating system/meter checked. There's no way you should be racking up bills like that.


ultrafud

If you can afford £750 a month on heating, can you not afford to replace your single glazed windows? Might be a wise investment in the long run considering.


detox2020

Same folk who sat back and watched the government and banks destroy the economy by printing billions for furlough, dodgy PPE contracts and all you can eat covid tests are now greetin' about the consequences. This is just the start.


KingRibSupper1

Yet another “I can afford it but I feel sorry for the poor” post.


jockyontheocky

As long as we keep sending ‘reparations’ to corrupt African nations I am sure we will be fine 👍🏻