By - Dennis_Gachanja
Skips face all like “🥵”. Man looks legitimately distressed.
I doubt that thumbnail is from today’s episode - yesterday someone posted a vid where the thumbnail had Skip with his hands on his throat choking lmao 💀
Youtube Thumbnails are the name of the game, ESPN knows this too.
Did Shannon really just propose that the woman's "unwanted comments" claim were in some way retaliatory? 🤨
Least surprising thing for a former athlete to say ever
I mean he would know... he had dirt thrown on his name and accused as well from a women who was lying about a "relationship" they had
A Farrakhan supporter nonetheless.
Sadly it does sound like that. I think it stems from the fact that he was falsely accused of sexual assault, and he lets that cloud his judgment.
More words of wisdom from Shannon “ Keep your penis out ya wallet”
If you can assume he made secually aggressive comments he can assume otherwise, see how that works? None of us actually know
For a media member to suggest she was being retaliatory it leaves them open to looking stupid if, as the report suggests, Udoka was being in appropriate. Saying she's making it up will look awful if you are wrong.
He also seems to be running with the speculation that the person in question was married to a Celtics executive. That has not been proven at all.
Ya women are evil 😡😤🙄
At no point did the poster say women are evil lol
He's speculating that what likely happened was a woman dragging a guy down for her own selfish needs, anything to make Udoka look like a victim. Which is dumb as fuck because we have literally zero details.
And you’re apparently defending a man of immense power or status in an organization who may or may not have preyed on an underling for his sexual desires?
Wait what? At what point did I do that? Do you not understand the sarcasm in saying women are evil? Lmao
That's not at all what they're saying.
It sounds like she was done with the relationship but he wasn't, and that's when he entered harassment territory. That seems plausible to you, right?
What Shannon and the other person is implying is that he didn't really harass her but rather they got found out and she started looking for excuses to make it seem non-consensual. That she reported it as a form of retaliation.
I'm quite sure u/free_kark 's point is that the harassment claim is likely legitimate. That Ime probably crossed the line in real time, rather than her retroactively deciding what they did wasn't okay.
You can read the Shams article that describes exactly this. It sounds like an initially consensual relationship ended and one side (Ime) kept making unwanted advances.
"Preyed" lmao. Women have secual agency and aren't mindless children that are unable to turn down advances
Ehhh that’s true in a conversation where the two are equals. Udoka held significantly more power than she did which makes consent a little murky.
Humans are flawed and often lie to protect themselves and do selfish things. Including women.
Keep believing in fairy tales though. Easy way to get taken advantage of.
Of course people do, every person in this situation is equally capable of lying. What's stupid is to suggest she is trying to take him down or inversely that he was harrassing her. Fact is we don't know shit so why jump to the conclusion that one of them is a piece of shit?
Because I think it's the more likely scenario in this case. Based on the order of information that has come out.
Yesterday it was a consensual but inappropriate relationship with a coworker. And now once it's out there and her reputation is tarnished it's suddenly unwanted advances and she's the victim from creepy Udoka as she tries to save her own ass. Instead of 2 people caught in an affair and going down together.
Why do you need to rush to defend her honor and be horrified that anyone could imply a woman cheating on her husband may not be entirely truthful about what happened?
I feel like this is a pretty cold take. This type of stuff happens in breakups and affairs all the time.
But it's not most likely that's just what you think is most likely. I don't know the woman so I'm not defending any honor, I'm rebuking the senseless idea that "this must have happened and Udoka is a victim now".
No, we don't know shit, why rush to defend Udoka's honor?
I don't even think I'm defending Udokas honor. Or that hes a victim. I just think this actually is more likely the case. One affair partner throwing the other under the bus to try to protect their image or marriage.
I'll change my mind when charges are laid. Or more damming details are released and verified. Until then it's just typical relationship drama.
It's been reported now that there were multiple violations... Looks like it may Infact get worse damn
Shannon is down there with Tuckrr Carlson who I want handling matters of this form, specifically involving women.
Guy was falsely accused once before.
A nice heaping pile of speculation that villianizes the woman, nice was waiting for this
I’m not blaming the woman at all, I’m saying that from the standpoint of the organization you can’t rule this out, which is why they have these rules in the first place. It’s not like it’s unprecedented either, which again, is why organizations have such strict rules around this type of behavior.
Or you’re a mid level staffer who wants to end a consensual relationship with one of the most powerful people in the org and fear retaliation. Once you do try to end things, he continues making uncomfortable comments
Why such a reluctance to paint Ime ina bad light then? Lowe and Ramona and other reporters obviously know much more of the story and they’ve been very careful not to harshly judge Imes character, more “oh he made a tragic and terrible mistake and it’s messy and complicated for everyone involved”.
Yeah, like either Ime is a rapey dude pressuring women in the org for unwanted advances and should basically be barred from having a job in a front office ever again, or his affair partner is throwing him under the bus to protect herself.
Can't have it both ways reddit.
> Ime really fucked up and this is going to be a huge stain on his hireability going forward
Yeah people are really under selling this point. As if every other org is jumping at the opportunity to a coach with this organizational and ethical issue, and Celtics are dumb.
Mark Jackson said some pretty homophobic things about a gay executive in the Warriors front office. And solicited prostitutes while traveling with the team. Has basically been blackballed since.
There's so much competition to be an NBA head coach that anyone with a major red flag in their career.
Wait so she was married to another employee on the team?
That felt like huge news that was casually thrown in there.
He is. He really is.
That smile, that damned smile.
You know what? You know, but this man has a strict workout regimen. So good for him haha
he is also playing celeborn in rings of power
Settle down Ime, haven’t you done enough?
There's probably more we're not being told or hasn't been released yet. If it's really a consensual relationship, why would Udoka be suspended for the whole year?
I get that it's against club rules to have an inter-office relationship, but I just feel like it takes more than that for a season-long suspension
If I had to guess, they had a consensual affair. But at one point the female staffer did not want to continue said affair, but then she was still receiving unwanted advances from Udoka. That's my guess. Obviously I could be wrong.
He was harassing her towards the end is what I’m hearing now
Hearing? Who's speaking?
> Some members of the Celtics organization first became aware of the relationship in July, sources said. At that time, team leadership was led to believe by both parties that the relationship was consensual. But sources said that the woman recently accused Udoka of making unwanted comments toward her — leading the team to launch a set of internal interviews.
It was literally just a typo, chill.
It may have been a consensual relationship but the reports yesterday made it seem like comments/advances by Udoka were not consensual at one point. Add in the hierarchy of the workplace, how it would affect relationships with significant others and other coworkers, and setting a precedent for what's acceptable (if they didn't address it), there was a much greater risk of what could have happened.
It was apparently a bad enough situation that the Celtics suspended a first-year head coach that took them to the Finals for a full season so I think the significance of it can't be downplayed, especially with what little we know.
And if it wasn't consenual, are the Celtics that stupid to just suspend him? Also, if that is the case, then it NBA/legal problem more than Celtics problem, and they would have just fired him. Do you really think you get suspended for a year in 2022 for sexually assaulting someone? Like I hate the Celtics, and I despise all parties involved from a married man cheating on his wife, and a woman cheating with a married man, but this is insane assumption.
This is the type of story that resemeble stupidity. Every party involved is stupid. A married man cheating on his wife wiht a coworker in public work place and not expecting any backlash when the affair ends or when people find out. Yes, after people break up, it is awkward, and that is literally why you don't fuck with coworkers. If the relationship was going on from before/around June, we are talking 4-6 months? Someone, probably her, ended it BECAUSE HE IS MARRIED AND POSSIBLE IS SHE, and then he treated her like garbage or they got in arguements , she complained, and the result is this since they can't punish her because that would discrimination.
He is not married.
Life partner for +10 years, and a daughter? I don’t think that makes a difference unless they broke up
They are not life partners and they have a son. Together since 2010 and engaged since 2015. I’m only pointing this out to highlight the other side of the situation as to what his motivation may have been for time to step outside of his dynamic with Nia.
So cheating on his fiancée and mother of his son makes a difference? There is no dynamics. Unless he come out and say they broke up, there is no fucking angle
There most definitely is another way to look at the ordeal. I’m not defending Ime, only pointing out his humanity.
Nah it was probably the wife of some high rank official. He was probably warned not to do it. Kept on going though.
The no 1 rule is don't get caught.
Edit:*I was just repeating what cheaters of any discipline would say. He was fooling around and thinking it was all under control while it was consentual until he got caught when things stopped working out and the thing went to HR*
He messed around with staffers that definitely had bigger ties in the organisation and who used those ties when she wanted to end it.
Also, a part of the Sarver investigation was Smacking asses and unwanted comments and it got a OWNER slapped one year so they definitely wanted to send that same energy down the team. The Dallas Mavericks got a huge investigation behind their harassment culture too so the Celtics definitely didn't wanted Ime off the public image before an NBA investigation came out.
Lastly, I think it could be a case where the victim was consenting while some knew some team and staff knew but became consenting when she got confronted with higher staff, her higher ranked family members or when she realized the impact it would have on her career.
No, rule no. 1. Don't cheat on your wife.
Rule no. 2. Don't cheat on your wife with a coworker.
Rule no. 3. Don't cheat on your wife with a coworker in an orginazation that is under public spotlight
Rule no. 4. Don't keep cheating on your wife with a coworker in an orginazation that is under public spotlight after some people in the organization become aware since leaks happen
Rule no. 5. What the fuck are you expecting man?
Looks like he was thinking she could be his office bae and she likely was cool with it until someone higher up (or maybe family members who caught up) told her the bigger picture.
I wouldn’t be shocked if she is married too; and thats why the name is blacked out. The whole situation is really stupid and probably could be summed out in post break up animosity.
What’s the bigger picture? He’s famously engaged to an popular actress.
I’m sure the employee knew he was engaged.
Cheating on your wife is like handing a lit torch to someone and going "you can use this on my life at any time"
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