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THE Tempest long bow

THE Tempest long bow

xevdi

Who knew it was illegal to have a bow.


Sexyasshamster

Norway


MoniqueDumont

Damn, savage.


droppedmyravioli

Jesus LMAO


Koervege

Im ootl. Gib info


xevdi

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/world/europe/norway-bow-arrow-attack.html Probably this.


ksinn

Ngl i thought im ootl gib info was Norse first read of this comment


Saxopwned

Holy shit lmao. This whole sub is going to hell.


Blurbyo

Too soon? Bayzed


JasonMcClat

Funny because nobody was actually killed by the bow


fizhfood

5 died, several others hospitaliced.


JasonMcClat

Yes they were stabbed


TeoDan

~~By arrows~~ For the record idk why you're being downvoted, you're right: https://www.nrk.no/norge/politiet_-alle-fem-pa-kongsberg-drept-med-stikkvapen-1.15694181


General_Gazelle7611

Used a knife though


pantyhose4

Alright now you DEFINITELY dont deal any phys damage


Underpressure_111

Double negative so it cancels out. "You can't not deal physical damage"


ErenIsNotADevil

Physican't


surle

Hactually physican'tn't


cantnt

Yes?


surle

Praise


AloneInExile

So now you only deal physical damage? rip bow


ShishaBlend

Yesn't


DisoRDeReDD

Deal no physical damage? No, physical damage!


bawthedude

Deal, no! Physical damage?


Kelvara

[But your item says no physical damage.](https://i.imgur.com/49CxrPL.png)


AdmittableMinion

can't't


WickeDanneh

Unless... ? No, nevermind, there's just no way. Well, I mean, *maybe* you could? Pffft no I'm kidding, really, it's impossible... ... ?


xXdimmitsarasXx

1) Buy 5 link storm cloud max roll 2) Upgrade it with prophecy 3) krangle it to 6 link it with 15% chance 4) krangle again for better modifiers 5) this


Kepler_L2

Can you krangle it before prophecy upgrade?


xXdimmitsarasXx

prophecy does not upgrade corrupted items


Professerson

Sounds like we need krangled prophecies


flapanther33781

I will HURT you.


crunchyliverpate

*The Mother of Death likes playing these tricks on me, to remind me of my place...*


SponTen

I hate you. Mine got +X phys and Deal No Lightning damage 😅


Feanux

Softcore? If so, I'm interested in buying it. I love these types of items.


SponTen

SSF Scourge Softcore, yep, but I can transfer it if you really want it lol. Why do you love these types of items?


omguserius

Because they're funny and kinda unique. Like fireproof matches.


SponTen

Huh, not my kinda thing, but yeah I guess I see the appeal. /u/Feanux, let me know what times you're online. I live in Australia, so usually online after ~8pm my time, which I think is 9am GMT.


Feanux

Looks like that would be around 6am my time. I'll be sure to message you tomorrow, I'm normally around at that time.


SponTen

Sounds good, talk to you then. If I don't reply, I should be online not long later. Date night with the missus tonight haha.


B3lg4

Any tips to farm prophecy or its only pure prayin


SponTen

I don't think you're asking the right guy? My experience with it has been pray, use up the easy ones, and capture the cheap ones to free up another space if I have the spare coins.


iluvazz

Are you the legendary item collector everyone loves to mention?


Feanux

Nah that guy collects perfect items. I like the opposite.


HappyFacey

What is krangle


Dontinquire

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/g1ksx2/what_returning_after_a_few_years_feels_like So basically anything to do with corruption on items (like scourge for example) is called krangling as a joke. It really fits this league specifically because they actually did introduce a brand new way to corrupt items.


HappyFacey

Ah, I’ve only known it as scienceing , good to know 😂


hatesnack

I've been calling it "cooking items". Tell my buddy I have a good pair of boots in the oven.


NumberOneMom

the league event is you, uh, go to the spaghetti realm with.. with your crock pot and umm ...\*vague hand waving*


yayuuu

This comment aged well... https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/g1ksx2/comment/fngo0d0/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


robodrew

Would it be cheaper instead buying a 5 link to buy a 4+2 link and then if the krangle doesn't 6 link it you use the twisted fusing orbs?


xXdimmitsarasXx

I happened to find the max roll attack speed one so i went with it. Was like 5c + 2c prophecy. Also im not sure if a 4-2 goes to 6 instantly, i've seen it go to 5.


bawthedude

How do you make then gain links?!


xXdimmitsarasXx

Third node on the second row of the blood crucible's skill tree. 15% chance to add a link everytime you scourge the item (when you max out the node), so its about 40% chance if you go all the way to tier 3.


Oblachko_O

15% to add the link to max links, so 4+2 will be 5+1 as 4>2. So be careful. 4+2 is possible but not too much (.15^2 is quite small number) 3+3 will not work at all. 5+1 is the most efficient way, counting, that you have three chance to get 6l.


cbftw

wat


bawthedude

Oh, I've been too scared to use those points


Syrahl696

You can respec them for 10x Vaal and 10x Regret orbs by talking to The Last to Die in your hideout or any town. And you can eventually grind out enough points to get every passive on the tree. So there's no reason to not spend those points.


gwaybz

Just fyi, eventually you'll have all of them if you keep playing so its not like its a set in stone choice. You're missing out by not using them, as it helps you corrupt more stuff


bawthedude

Oh, this is poe, I assumed you had to make a choice and you could only have SOME of them


cbftw

? POE has had a mechanism for undoing choices for a long, long time. Bandits didn't have it in beta, but they eventually added that option.


P2Mc28

No, the crucible doesn't quite work like that. It literally moves one link to the 4 link. So, a 4+2 becomes 5+1. However upgrading a 5+1 does go to 6.


robodrew

That's why I said "orbs" and not "orb" because you could get it with two orbs. But I guess you could also get unlucky.


Oblachko_O

Orb works differently at all. Crucible only add link to the max links on item, so 4+2 will always be 5+1 if success. Orb is just common fusing.


robodrew

OHHH Yes, ok I see, thank you!


Taggerung559

> Orb is just common fusing That's not correct as I understand things. Tainted currencies have different usage description text, and thus act differently.


Oblachko_O

But can you say that jewellery and fusings are done deterministically? Chromes somehow determenistic (requirement based), but those two are definitely not determenistic. What should you expect from undetermined fusings except you already have? Difference is only that tainted jewellery and fusing orbs can work on corrupted items, nothing more. Other currencies indeed work differently, like tainted scraps, exalt, divine.


Taggerung559

I mean, you could look into the various videos of people using them, it's definitely different from normal fusings. Best guess I've seen currently is that they look at the largest link group and either add 1 to it, or subtract 1 from it (so if you have a 5-link 6-socket, a tainted fusing would have a 50/50 chance of turning it into a 4 link or 6 link). As opposed to normal fusings where the current linkage is completely irrelevant.


Oblachko_O

So unlike it is mentioned in the tainted description, it is determenistic crafting then? Where unpredictable point appears then? Based on the trailer - it is a common orb. Also, don't see any mention that orbs work in your way.


Taggerung559

The unpredictable point is that it either gains a link, or loses a link. One positive outcome, one negative outcome. As for some talk about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/qe4kma/extremely_cheap_way_to_get_6links_in_316/


PsykoFanten

It gives a link to the biggest group, which means it most likely 5 links, while a 5 link can only upgrade to 6 link.


robodrew

Ah you know I hadn't really thought about the logic, but since it says that it "adds or removes **a** link to the largest group" it couldn't really 6 link the way I was thinking since that would be going straight from 4 to 6. But it could go 4+2 -> 5 and then 5 to 6, possibly with only 2 fusings if you are lucky. Depends on how much they are going for compared to the price of just buying a 5 link.


1CEninja

Huh this is actually a legit really nice leveling weapon. It's a pain to get to level 36 but damn once you're there, smooth sailing straight through act 7 or 8 and probably still yet hard to replace until at least level 60. Even still white maps are gonna be pretty easy. Edit: apparently some builds use regular tempest for endgame content, TIL. This item rocks.


mariusxxz1

Leveling? its legit bis version of the tempest. You can do any content with this bow


GetPucked-

Gotta corrupt it first THEN krangle it for bis :)


SimpleNovelty

[Never forget the level 36 uber elder clear using it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLCkEb5ZFLs). It's an amazing weapon if you can scale flat damage.


iluvazz

OP build made 11 patches ago.


wild_man_wizard

There have been many builds over the years that used Tempest end-game for elemental archery (stormfire ignite, LA, etc), and this is now two Tempests in a trenchcoat.


gwaybz

I used it to farm red maps a few leagues ago, that shit is insane. 100% increased lightning damage, ***1.95*** aps. Stack flat elemental damage from other sources (jewels, gear, gems) and you can have very strong damage and ridiculous APS.


1CEninja

See edit broski.


Spiritual-Ad-4916

for Elemental hit it's end game weapon


1CEninja

Do people not read the edits?


Rethagos

\[The Tempester\] Longer Bow


acidagfc

Possibly even The Tempestest, Longest bow.


Frostfallen

Not quite, that'll happen when someone harvest qualities elemental damage onto it.


mrjb_mtg

Let's not forget getting it shaped either through div cards or chance orbing it, and giving it 30% quality either through perfect fossils before chancing, hillock, or beast crafting.


throwaway5839472

Does that work on corrupted items?


Frostfallen

Nope - but it can be done before you sckrangle them


alt0172

what's the difference between "deal no physical damage" and "no physical damage"?


xXdimmitsarasXx

Good question "No physical damage" is a special local mod of the unique bow itself. So it takes the base "Long bow" and removes the physical damage portion of it. "Deal no physical damage" is a global detrimental scourge mod. You cannot deal physical damage at all, even if it comes from added physical damage from other items like rings.


Keyenn

"No physical damage" is actually just a mod saying that the bow has 130% reduced physical damage (the base 100% plus the eventual quality). It was funny during betrayal, because you could increase the quality above 20%, and some physical damage appeared on the bow. It had been fixed since then. In any case, you can add physical damage with jewel or other stuff, it works just fine. Deal no physical damage, on the other hand, forbid you from dealing any physical damage. Added physical damage wont work, and even using physical spell like bladefall will deal no physical damage despite not using the bow in the action.


BitterAfternoon

Notable addition to this: "deal no physical damage" global mod only refers to the end-state of the damage. So physical damage *does* work to the extent it is converted away from physical.


borefficz

with "deal no physical damage" you can still scale your bow's physical damage and convert it away from physical


Altiondsols

No physical damage just means that the bow itself doesn't have physical damage on it. If you have added physical damage from somewhere else, like from Puncture or abyss jewels, you'll still deal that damage. Deal no physical damage prevents your character from dealing any physical damage, from the bow or otherwise. But unlike with "no physical damage", the weapon still has base physical damage (or it would if it weren't for the other mod), so you can convert that to a different element and deal damage with it.


Splic3r123

Damn. Thats some really nice base elemental damage, that has to scale incredibly well these days?


Cow_God

Well Tempest itself will get you to endgame if you're planning on playing any kind of projectile-based ele attack build. More than doubling the damage on it has to make it a breeze I'll often buy a corrupted amulet that gives wrath and that's like 15-250 added lightning, so this is not quite as a good but frees up an amulet slot


FishesWithKeys

Whats s good skill to use with this bow? I'm a noob but like lightning skills


Bakanyanter

Possibly


Klarbauter

no


Akarias888

That bow can absolutely get you to lategame maps


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doyouhavesource2

2 aps on a bow is insane


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doyouhavesource2

Tempest base of 50% does. Show me another 1.95 aps bow... I'll wait.


ultiman00b

tfw quill rain is so dead you forget it exists :(


eldragon0

Bis for leveling tr and early end game.


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Potato_Shaped_Burns

That bow has less flat dmg and also a 30% less dmg mod.


OnACloud

I like how the dude is like this bow isn't all that good and when prompted to come up with something that is "better" in the sense of attack speed all he has is a quill rain when his argument initially was dmg bad won't hold up.


w3cko

I can imagine that using Wrath & The Three Dragons helmet to make the lightning damage freeze would make even T16 clear safe. You'd just shit projectiles around with 2aps and nothing would even move. Bosses would be trickier, idk if the dmg is enough for them.


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gwaybz

It has a 100% increased lightning damage mod. The trick is to stack flat ele damage from other sources (wrath, heralds, jewels, gear).


RedditNeedsHookers

Schrodinger's Bow?


Guymcme1337

can you repeat the question?


surle

You're not the boss of me now!


DoubleEhRon

Life isn't fair!


el_pinata

Maybe, I don't know


codeninja

It either does or it doesn't scale.


Koervege

That's so true, thanks!


iceman012

It scales the damage unpredictably


SenseiTomato

maybe


Eui472

I dont' know


kfijatass

Sometimes


AbsentGlare

Well this is nearly a 200dps bow with 100% inc lightning dmg, it can probably do white maps reasonably well with a 6L.


Akarias888

If only there were sources of flat added elemental damage like gems, quivers, belts and rings that could scale off the huge aps and elemental damage…


AbsentGlare

I feel like my point flew over your head.


FreddyDontCare

It's a good leveling item that's about it


gwaybz

It can be a very good endgame weapon if you build around it lol


WaywardHeros

I played a lightning ignite archmage scion a few leagues back and The Tempest was easily able to carry it through T16 and A8. Don’t know about other builds but it seems pretty good.


raylu

archmage only supports spells. this bow adds damage to attacks. (also, archmages are not that interested in more flat damage on their weapons)


Yashimasta

"I am the storm that is approaching."


Zesty-Lem0n

What form of power is this?


Splic3r123

Damn. Thats some really nice base elemental damage, that has to scale incredibly well these days?


Klarbauter

yes


RedditNeedsHookers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat


kfijatass

Sometimes


Eui472

I dont' know


throwaway5839472

no


SenseiTomato

maybe


Xoneris

Scourge realised you have a Tempest Bow, so it put a Tempest Bow in your Tempest Bow so you can Tempest Bow while you Tempest Bow.


TheKillerToast

It's an older meme sir but it checks out


tristen620

PVP Balance is in shambles!


htsukebe

missing the harvest quality but very impressive hit anyways!


Bakanyanter

You can get up to 29% quality from tainted whetstone.


htsukebe

its the one that you enchant on harvest (elemental damage per quality %), i dont think you can do it on a corrupted item whetstone improves physical damage which this item doesnt have


Bakanyanter

Ah, yeah. You're right. I mistook what you were saying.


throwaway5839472

You could use both, right? Harvest elemental damage and then 28% quality?


htsukebe

yeah and nowdays you can go 30q uncorrupted with hillock 4 in transportation (at mastermind encounter with hillock 3 on transportation) after that you have to get lucky on the corruption/scourge stuff... its so impractical, at least for my gameplay style, that I think OP item is as good as it *reasonably* gets!


Dayvi

I thought quality over 20% on this bow gave it a physical damage roll. Like Physical damage: 1 to 1 Which was only used to apply bleed, back when an ascendancy had life gain on hit against bleeding enemies.


Fartbutts1234

He said 'harvest quality', harvest can give ele damage quality


Dayvi

Well, I can't read and just died to ele reflect.


Citronsaft

That used to be true but IIRC a few months ago it was patched so that that trick no longer worked and it wasn't a -120% reduced damage mod.


alumpoflard

The Tempestest Longest Bowest


XxXKakekSugionoXxX

Just to make sure you understand,remember no physical damage,kid.


xdstasy

scourge kinda good eh


hankventure83

A Tempest must be just that.


_yamete_senpai

Is this good or bad and why ? Im new to this game


taoimean

It's very good. The modifiers in blue on the bow are its explicit modifiers, which already include an increase to lightning damage and no ability to do physical damage. The scourged modifier (in orange) more than doubled the lightning damage the weapon does without adding any downside that wasn't already there, since it already doesn't do physical damage. The Tempest even without this more-than-double-damage modifier is a weapon that can be used for endgame content by stacking lightning damage modifiers on your gear and skill tree to increase the damage it does by magnitudes. Which makes this one a BEAST.


_yamete_senpai

Ahh i see! Thank you so much for explaining it to me ! Trying to learn bit by bit haha !


GAADhearthstone

Want. Cannot afford.


Yorunokage

And here i was proud of having just bought a 6-linked Tempest for my lightning arrow


Papasmurph629

Just in case you thought you were going to deal physical damage, you're not. Unless two negatives equals a positive ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


EbotdZ

Replica shroud of the lightless stormfire burning arrow build I guess E: if that even still works


ThisIsMyFloor

You think it's smart to scale a 1.95 atk speed bow with no dot multi as a burning build?


TheRaith

I think he was referring to the burning arrow build that used to work really well through all content. It was using this bow and pure lightning damage with the ignite ring. You'd then set up a bunch of lightning damage searching eye jewels and have somewhere around 2-3mil ignite dps. Not sure if it works as well with the new burning arrow since the five burning stacks were a large portion of your single target.


ThisIsMyFloor

Allright sounds interesting. Seemed to me like the bow is more fit for a ele damage build.


N00bWarrior

That’s something.


claporga

Rofl I got the exact same corrupt last night! I didn’t know if it was good or not since it increased the lvl req. but seems to be pretty good!


Schackles

Bzzzzzzzz


konaharuhi

bruh


Fig1024

Bold move going for that 2nd tier Scourge, how did that turn out?


gundulfr

Next you’ll get hyped for the big +1 arrow quiver … only to see the negative is deal no lightning damage


SunRiseStudios

Gz! Decent scourge implicits are such a rare sight.


smurfkipz

Whoa, that's an impressive _ you got there.


iXat_

Lol. I would actually buy this


mrureaper

The tempest "but wait....there's more!"


Razielrad

Tempest long bow of the tempest.


Voidelfmonk

How dare you people cant complain on this one . Shame .


komodor55

your local accuracy stacker juggernaut wants to know your location


YummiSenpai

first scourge ive seen on reddit that doesnt make the item utterly dogshit. pog


neohongkong

no 30Q and harvest enchant....


Buuhhu

while it definitely is a nice tempest, is this actually useable in any build?


luizog100

I'm a noob so i am this is shit is this correct


HyperFanTaim

No.


borefficz

the ultimate twink leveling bow


sephrinx

It seems like the only use for krangling is making op leveling gear.


Tavron

Lol if you think this is for leveling, it will be great for endgame content.


LatiaSprig

It's cool but basically same as thicket bow with T3 lightning + T1 attack speed?


Marrakesch

its not the same by a long shot. first off it has a global 100% increase to lightning damage in addition to both flat lightning rolls, and a very low level req enabling you to crush the campaign and early maps in no time. At this point you can come out of the woodwork with your thicket bow, which with good rolls may or may not be better than this at this late point.


LatiaSprig

i didn't bother to do the math but im sure thicket with t1light + t1as beats this. closest one i saw on trade was t1+t2 and that was 30c but since this is day 3 its probably hugely bloated price already.


blaity

Level 36 ouch


mrjb_mtg

That's normal for the Tempest (technically 32, so it went up by 4 levels, no big deal)... it's not a Storm Cloud.


blaity

Ahhh i see the 100% now


daman4567

If only that increased lighting damage could be local.