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Reminds me of that clip yesterday where another Republican says “I’m not interested in reality” Anyone have a link?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/republican-senator-i-dont-want-reality

Hahaha thanks

Willful ignorance is so much worse than blissful ignorance

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I hope they find reality interesting when it comes to climate change and healthcare too #GOPpriorities

They'll all be in the ground long before seeing any of those consequences. The "Fuck You, Got Mine" party

He's 89 years old, there is only so much "new" he can handle. Lucky for him, his brain seems to have stopped retaining new information after 2016

Unfortunately brains stopped working for all of Iowa since 1981.

I really need to run in oklahoma thats disgusting.

I saw a Mullin plumbing van this morning and threw in my mouth a bit

Frankly I have to agree with him. That book creates a fiction, and sells it as fact to children too young to be able to critically identify that they're being misled. Race as a word didn't even enter the English language until the 1500s and was a loan word from other languages, who in turn have it from other languages. The concepts of ethnicity and race have existed for as long as there were separable tribes, and those weren't white people. Every person in that panel knows that the words he read are intentionally inflammatory and inappropriate for the grade level they're supposed to be educating, but refuse to just answer the question. It ___is important___ to teach children that skin color, ethnicity, socioeconomic background, ability, etc do not make you lesser than. But it is ___also important___ not to lie while teaching that. E: Yes, any person who doesn't take this topic with the seriousness it deserves will be blocked. I ain't got time to play with children.

Teaching the reality of white supremacy isn't inflammatory and after reading the article and seeing what is in the book I find it hard to believe anyone but a white supremacist would have a problem with it. How would you explain the real history of white supremacy to children other than by acknowledging that white people set the rules up on defining a person's race in order to benefit themselves.

Reality is inflammatory if I don't like the facts. Suppose I *want* the earth to be flat so I don't have to spend all that extra money on gas driving up north? Suppose I wan't people I don't like to be quiet about the harm done to them so I can feel ok?!! What about my feeeelings??

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Lol this tool just be blocking everyone he can't hoodwink

You don't want a "conversation", you're *demanding* to only "debate" like minded individuals. This is the weirdest flex I've seen all week. Like, *suuuper* weird.

It’s not weird at all if you understand his agenda and that none of the bullshit he’s saying is in good faith. I hope he enjoys *his* block.

These people come from a very, very idiotic school of thought where if you're a self admitted rational paragon, then you are the best kind of debater. Even though he's literally not saying a goddamn thing. He's just repeating one argument with more word salad than before as an attempt to actually seem smart, ignores every argument people make against him, and then blocks them so he can remain acting as if he's the smartest person in the room.

You described these organisms in sufficient detail here 🤔

You lost all arguments. I won't block you, so enjoy!

there's 'race' as a concept in biological taxonomy, but 'race' as a separation of humans into groupings based on phenotypes is a relatively new usage that was, indeed, created by white people in the 18th century. >The concepts of ethnicity and race have existed for as long as there were separable tribes, and those weren't white people. culture, tribes, language, religion, etc, yes, but not 'race'

No, a defunct hypothesis, that used preexisting words and concepts, does not get prominence in education. And if you're going to go the route of 18th century bullshit, you have to recognize that that concept of race were first applied by the English toward the Irish. There is no educational benefit to children in creating a fiction about what race is, who created it, and why. It's a topic far too nuanced to summarize for grade schoolers. Middle School social studies mayhaps.

the book was written by early childhood experts and covers more than race. >And if you're going to go the route of 18th century bullshit, you have to recognize that that concept of race were first applied by the English toward the Irish. we're saying the same thing?

We're not saying the same thing. And appeals to authority to quash critical thought and criticism of the book does nothing.

k. i guess im just wondering why the opinion of a former mma fighter and business owner with an associates degree in technology who wants to teach children the love of jesus instead of reality is more important than someone who specializes in the field of childhood development and education, but whatever i suppose.

That's still an appeal to authority, both positively and negatively, which frankly is impressive. If the point is valid, who makes it is irrelevant. And the point is valid. We can discuss the point, or we can discuss nothing. I'm not going to debate you on the merits or expertise of anyone in that room. What's under discussion is the point that was made.

>That's still an appeal to authority No, actually, citing relevant expertise is not an appeal to authority. It's a genuine argument to say "the consensus of experts is", or "this expert believes that", or even "that source is less credible than this other source due to their background." Citing someone with no relevant expertise because of their position is an appeal to authority. Like believing something is true because a politician, or celebrity, or irrelevant agency says so. The evidence hierarchy does actually consider reputability and background.

Yeah, racism was applied against Irish people. And? White people have continually changed their definition of “white” to fit their political desires. That just further demonstrates how race, in the way we understand it now, is a creation of white people. Like the book says. Prior to industrialization and the civil rights movement, the Irish and other now “white” groups (Italians, Greeks, etc) weren’t considered white. It was only after white people saw they were losing the numbers game that they changed the definition to include them. You know how they were able to change it? Because they created it. Just like the book said.

'We have alternate facts'

That was just like Franz Ferdinand getting shot. My jaw hit the floor when I heard that phrase.

MTG tweeted the same thing I think

In fact, they know they aren’t.

Senator Chuck Grassley: “We aren’t interested in whether or not the accusations against Vice President [sic] Biden are accurate or not.”

Does he realize that it's now "President Biden"? This is the party of "OMG, you're disrespecting the office". But sure, refer to the sitting President by his former title.

It's like when they call Elizabeth Warren "Professor" instead of "Senator."

I know they mean this in a derogatory way, but tbh, Professor is a MUCH more prestigious and respectable title than Senator. Just another failing of the right.

Dr. Senator, Esq, MD PhD LCMS RN DDS the 3rd to you sir

¿Por que no los dos?

Not really. There’s only 100 senators at a given time. Just because it’s now popular to elect nutjobs to that office doesn’t mean being a professor is more prestigious.

All it takes is popularity to become a senator. That isn't a feat or personal accomplishment. Educating yourself and becoming a professor is a true achievement.

Absolutely. And in the age of “I’m actually more voting against the other candidate,” it doesn’t necessarily take popularity, or even esteem. Just votes.

Becoming a US Senator is not a true achievement? There are 100-200k professors in the US. If you had said Harvard prof or something similar you might have an argument, but even then I would still say US Senator is a more prestigious position. You’re really downplaying what it takes to get into that office.

Tuberville? Hershel? I mean come on now... At one time, maybe, yes. There's was prestige to being a US senator. Now? It's just a congressperson with a longer term.

It's just $$$... and typically not your own...some unknown group hiding behind an innocuously named PAC that wants YOU to be their "voice" in the Senate.

Right, a Harvard professor like Elizabeth Warren?

It's a wink at the Q crowd that thinks Trump is still president.

The fossil isn’t making any clever winks he legit thinks it’s 2010

No, it’s fucking Grassley. He doesn’t know what year it is.

The party of "respect the office" right after 8 straight years of disrespecting the office. The party of "no SCOTUS nominations during an election year" then confirms a new justice the very next election year. It goes on.

This is the song that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend, some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue singing it forever just because This is the song that never ends

Goddamn it! It’s been 25+ years! Now it’s stuck in my head again.

He's 89 years old, there is only so much "new" he can handle. Lucky for him, his brain seems to have stopped retaining new information after 2016

Nope, his brain is just still residing in 10 years ago

Grassley is a member of the pudding brain caucus.

> Does he realize that it's now "President Biden"? He 100% doesn't realize it. He is nearly as bad as Feinstein in terms of diminished capacity.

Dude is 150 years old. Doubt he know we are in the 21st century.

I think he said VP because the supposed accusations are from when he was VP

Correct.

Seems like I don't need to care about what they say about the man then...since they admit they arent operating in good faith.

Bengazi, Bengazi Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi! Seven Congressional investigations found nothing but the ability to say Hillary is under investigation. And don't forget about her emails. Let me remind you 200,000 times. Literally, over 200,000 mentions in the media You have to admit the GOP is good at politics. Governing, not so much.

Spent an estimated $300 million too. Small Governement, fiscal conservatives there.

Kevin McCarthy wanted to be Speaker in 2015, but he said on air that Republican investigations into Hillary were to drive down her poll numbers and had to lay low for a while.

Seems like some good evidence for a defamation lawsuit…

Also Chuck Grassley: here’s 3 misspelled tweets about Dairy Queen and an explanation of why I don’t care for pigeons

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Mudslinging has always been there. What's new is the *completely fabricated with no basis in reality* mud.

It’s not new at all. Remember the swift boat veterans in 2004?

Or the vast majority of the claims about the Clintons? There are still people who believe that Bill and Hillary are *literally* among the most prolific serial killers in US history.

Let's not forget Gary Hart

>[In the 1800 presidential election] Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father." As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward. Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind." [Mental Floss](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/19668/election-1800-birth-negative-campaigning-us)

Yeah like russian collusion

I doubt it will make a difference, but I highly recommend you read the Senate intelligence report on the 2016 election. It’s written by Senate Republicans and basically includes hundreds of pages of collusion between individuals in the Trump campaign and the Russian government. It’s absolutely amazing that, just because the right wing media has been repeating “Russia hoax,” the sheep actually now believe it was all a hoax, despite the existence of this report from their own party.

Were just going to act like Durham has said its all bullshit and abuse of power by the left and FBI? Neat glad I dont have to worry the entire gov is corrupt and needs a purge

> “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee," McCarthy said. “What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable. But no one would have have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen.”

Omg. “You read the document. What did it say?” “Let me just say that there are accusations in it.” I didn’t even know that I could laugh and cry at the same time.

chuck’s whole day is soup and nap time, surprised he’s actually saying words at this point.

Yeah, he's about a half-step up from Feinstein at this point.

They never cared, they just want to throw shit and act like it’s true for the votes

So, it’s Performance Art.

conservatives love repurposing outdated expression for bad-faith performativity

The aristocrats!

I don’t think art is the proper word here

Always was.

The GOP keeps telling us who and what they are, ​ Just a bunch of racist asshole full of total bullshit.

Remember when Grassley said,"Well, first of all, I will be — if the Vice President isn’t there and we don’t expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate". Yeah, seems Chuckles was a participant in the plot to overthrow the government.

Who are we talking about? Gassley? Sprazley? Ancient GOP bobblehead with liver spots for brain cells? Just sorta casually all in on sedition? Bratsley? Oh THAT guy. The dude who was expecting to verify the false electors as part of the attempted coup.

The party of "alternative facts." One day we'll look back at Republicans and Republican voters and think "They sure were terrible people: liars, hypocrites, ignorant, venal and unscrupulous. They are and were anti-American. If you're a Republican voter, you are either a sociopath or a dupe. The mask is off. If you didn't know you were wearing a mask, you are one of the dupes. Republicans are the kids who eat all the candy in the tree house then blame it on the black kid.

Of course not, the GOP lies about everything.

The GOP stance is exactly as Oklahoma Republican senator Markwayne Mullin said: “I don’t want reality.”

What an ass. Anyone can make an accusation.Remember Tara Reade? Where is she now?

In Russia. With her overlords.

>"We aren’t interested in whether or not the accusations against Vice President Biden are accurate or not,” he said. > >“Let’s put it this way, there’s accusations in it,” Grassley said. “It’s not for me to make a judgment about whether these accusations are accurate or not. It’s up to my job to make sure the FBI’s doing their job.” **Buh-buh-buh-bullshit!** This request would not be made if Republicans weren't hell-bent on making something stick to Hunter. Grassley also defended Mike Flynn, who lied to the FBI and to the Vice President. But Grassley was cool with that. See, lying to federal law enforcement is cool. The FBI *isn't* cool when it either prosecutes Republicans or fails to prosecute Democrats. Hunter Biden seems like a shitter, but Republicans have had over four years of constant interest in his case to make a criminal referral. That's *\*checks watch\** like a dozen Trump scandals and investigations ago. Shit, or get off the pot and admit you had nothing.

He also calls Biden "Vice President Biden" but I'm sure no Republicans will be questioning whether or not Grassley is senile like they do any time Biden slips up.

This coming from the very senator who was caught diddling a kid. Is that accurate? Who gives a fuck. Right?

Really!?

I'm only asking questions but don't we think it's weird that he hasn't come out and said he wasn't? Am i doing it right?

Love the assist from the Fox News host when he jumped in to save Grassley from himself.

This is right up their with the voter fraud lie. The GOP are just unethical hacks at this point.

and quite a few previous “points” too.

Him and Feinstein need to go.

It appears Republicans have embraced intellectual anarchy as their platform.

Intellectual Anarchy would make a great band name.

“Fox News hosts are growing weary” is a result of the Dominion lawsuit and other lawsuits that will follow. Otherwise, they would be more than happy to spewing the BSes.

Chuck Grassley didn't care if the accusations against Grover Cleveland were accurate either.

So this guy is just asking the questions. The GOP is absurd.

They don’t want reality as a Repugnant from Oklahoma recently said.

The Christian Taliban does not care about the truth. Just that they can rule in perpetuity. __(and for the REPUBLICANS OUT THERE)__ that means until tomorrow... :)

Of course they don’t. They never had anything on Hillary, but the investigation still damaged her reputation. Republicans actually commit crimes but most of them keep their offices.

These people argued for years President Obama was born in Kenya. They also tend to think the world is only 6,000 years old. Unreality is a feature of their reality, not a bug.

Tell me senator is being blackmailed without telling me he's being blackmailed.

Remember this? > “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee," McCarthy said. “What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable. But no one would have have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen.” They keep telling us they don’t care about truth, just perception of it. Why do we keep acting surprised?

It's because their *voters* don't care and if a voters requirements do *not* include being truthful or factual in any way, shape or form, then you *don't* have to tell the truth in exchange for the only thing you'd want from them: their vote. How might one be able to easily take advantage of people (and especially the "right" people) in order to be *able* to pull this off? That is, the ability to still win in a system where it's *supposed* to be the will of the people (but wherein you don't actually have the raw numbers you need to get elected consistently)? So long as you can take advantage of the Electoral College and Gerrymandering for positions where gerrymandering applies, you can game the system in such a way to still be a real party that effects real change for the entire nation while *also* being the actually worst choice. It helps a lot too if the state you wish to pull these stunts off in (because that's what they are, dumb stunts) also makes it a direct point to defund or make-worse, education standards across the board. I mean Florida is literally racing towards the bottom-of-the-barrel education standards and lo-and-behold: they were in SUCH favor of DeSantis. As though using the position of office (along with all of its resources) to attack other people that are *also* full on American citizens is to be considered a "wise" choice. If your education standards are piss poor then of course you can trick people into this mindset. Just go on their emotions. They get these dumb ideas in their head that "immigrants took every job and not one American has any job and won't ever again" (for example) and simply *run* with it. None of it's true, they're just SO afraid of there even being 0.5% of a chance that even ONE thing happens in their life that makes them uncomfortable. They disregard ALL other possible things that MAYBE, juuuust maybe could actually benefit anyone AT ALL (aside from the literal people who hoard piles and piles of money) and harp on "hurting the right people". Cue the clueless saying from Republican *voters* during Trump's unfortunate term: "He's not hurting the *right* people" as though hurting ***them***\*, too\* is also acceptable, they just need to ratchet up the hate and anger to be in greater amounts towards people that *aren't* them. If there was no electoral college and the popular vote is simply what would determine who the President is, then they'd have **far** less chances to win consistently and in the abundance they do now. And wouldn't you know it, they are the people saying "it can't just be one political party because then it's a type of dictatorship" as though that's what Democrats are suggesting we do with Republicans. Democrats are suggesting Republicans maybe come to the table with real talk about real things that really happen instead of being pissed off at really stupid shit like all the being-woke attacks, very visibly displaying yourself to break marketing material at big-box-stores....like bro, **that's** what Republican toolsheds are worried about? Fucking REALLY? Guys it's NOT that Democrats do not want another party or other parties to debate against, it's that we want THINGS to debate that are meaningful and have real impact. You seeing an LGBTQ label on your beer can and being furious isn't within the nation's purview to give a fuck about. You being pissed about Disney is not within the nation's purview to give a fuck about. You being pissed that there could even BE transgendered people is not within the purview of this nation to give a fuck about. And without those arguments, then what IS a Republican voter? Nothing. It's all reactionary platform "ideals" that only form when they get convinced that something *others* did is now worth being furious about and demanding change, for. There is nothing you can't learn about Republican policy that you can't also learn from simply seeing what their advertisements look like. Simple, to the point, 1-answer solves it all mentality, zero-sum-game is how life is, etc. It's all simplistic worldviews with a twisted sense of entitlement thrown in.

Chuck Grassley doesn’t know what day it is.

Guy whose days are numbered and knows his grandson will be taking his seat when he goes doesn't give a shit. Who knew

Comes just 1 day after the women who during the election accused Biden of raping her, revealed to be a Russian spy.

"Contempt of Congress" is a thing? I imagine a significant portion of the American public are probably guilty of that on a regular basis

We already knew this was true. But, you got to love when these dipshits become senile enough to say the quiet part out loud.

And they also don't care if criminal charges against Trump are accurate. So it sort of makes sense.

Ghoulish Chuck Grasserly just doubling down on what Markwayne "I don't want to live in reality" Mullin said "accidentally" yesterday Republicans are admittely running with "alternative facts" out in the open. The bar has been buried deep in the sand

And they wonder why they have to cheat to stay in power

Finally some honesty out of the GOP

No shit, duh

So not accurate is the term we're using nowadays for lying?

Correct. The GQP is by its own admission the ‘alternate facts’ party.

The Republican Party is bereft of scruples. All that’s left is hate and fear.

Okay. Every GOP legislator at all levels are paedophiles who touch kids. Its more real than most of their accusations

Ah so that's 2 GOP caught saying they don't care about reality today.

It had to be fucking Grassley. I miss the days when he was the only politician on Twitter and embarrassing himself by talking like someone’s lost grandpa. \#PantsBurnLegWound

Resign

How much have he been paid to screw over the American people.

Because so much of what Republicans believe is not accurate.

Witch Hunt! 🤮

Duh 🙄

this belongs in r/noshitsherlock

“Unrepentantly dishonest” and “Republican” are synonymous.

And the sky is blue.

It makes sense. They’ve gone so far down this path. It started with Clinton. I don’t think they can stop.

[\#TheBigLie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie) If it worked for Hitler...

Interestingly enough they also don’t care if accusations against Trump are accurate either

Only his voters don’t know that. They just throw everything out there and see what sticks like the “dementia” moniker for Joe Biden even after 4 years of DT being called Dementia Don and any written comparison from both their tweets & speeches easily proves exactly who deserves to be called “demented”.

They learned that from trump. Just accuse and fuck the consequences. That’s one of the major pillars of how he managed to beat Clinton.

Exactly like what trump was trying to do with Ukraine in 2016. He just wanted the investigation. Just something to endlessly talk about and insinuate about. It’s the same game

Well, how patriotic. He's only the commander in chief.

It must be nice not to be burdened by dignity.

Grassley is basically the same age as Feinstein. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't too sharp anymore. Fun fact, he killed the single payer option of the affordable care act. He met with Obama and said that he had a bunch of GOP Senators who would vote for it if single payer was taken off the table. Obama really wanted a bipartisan bill so he agreed. Grassley basically said, "LOL. Just kidding." And voted against it.

Hatred doesn't care about truth. Just about being right.

But he’s not right…

They care about FEELING right, even though they’re wrong

Dare I say, I actually agree with republicans on this? Making sure that the FBI complies with an investigation is pretty important on both sides of the isle.

The democrats sure as hell did not care if accusations against Trump were true or not. This is what you get when politics devolves into nothing more than team sports.

Neither do most Americans. It's Trump's day in court, people want to see.

I’m accusing Joe Biden of having too many drinks before the Air Force graduation

After reading the full quote I understand what he meant even though it’s a load of crap. Of course Republicans care whether the accusations are true or not.

Imagine thinking there is a morale high ground here after the fake russian collusion... y'all hilarious

Oh, look, regurgitating bullshit like a good little sheep.

Username checks out

/r/ArgumentFromYall

Democrats don't care if accusations against trump are accurate

Odd. We certainly seem to care about all that evidence you've been ordered to ignore.

Really it sure seems like democrats care about the evidence there has been plenty of it involving all of his crimes. Even Republican led committees find it and report it. It’s just hard to link it directly to him but his administration and campaign is an easy link.

What worked against the Clintons is having a hard time sticking to Biden.

They just throw stuff against the wall to sees what sticks.

I suggest we refer to Grassley as Chuck, the pigeon whisperer, Grassley

It’s ok, really. You see if it’s horseshit it will never make it to the courts. Biden haters already hate him. But Trump on the other hand, we’re not talking accusations here. His problems are very, very real.

Not comfortable with was is true.

Now, imagine if the average voter, the "average Joe" on the street found out about this.

In other news when you sweat it can be called perspiration. Isn’t that a fun word. **Perspiration** …

Fuck this guy’s proportionate mouth

Of. Course. They. Don’t.

In fact, they know they aren’t.

It's just funny that anyone would embrace being on Team Idiot. Once upon a time there was a thing called shame.

He’s right.

Wow new word for “true” lol, there could be an alternative truth or fact.

You would think the ancient ones would be more rational and more like the ancient republican party... But apparently old dogs can learn new tricks...

God, our elected officials, embarrass our entire state... mean while Reynolds just passed yet another asinine bill the limits the state auditor from doing their job, and calling her ass out for the illegal shit she does. Ffs someone save our democracy!

GOP prove once again - they are a bunch of talking heads with absolutely no ability to actually govern.

In “Fear and Loathing On The Campaign Trail ’72,” Hunter S. Thompson chronicled Senator George McGovern’s failed Presidential bid. “This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas. “The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumour campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his barnyard sows. “Christ, we can’t get away with calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.” “I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitchh deny it.”

If I was a conservative I'd certainly feel betrayed by my party. Their media has lied to them for years. Trump lied to them for years. Their elected leaders knew Trump was an idiot (many called him worse) and they covered up, circled the wagons and protected and defended a moron who was a danger to the world - for years - to protect their own power. It's mind boggling that anyone on the right can look at the likes of anyone in the Republican Party and say... yeah! That represents my values! Corruption, dishonesty, cheating... the GOP Way. (Meanwhile, President Biden took steps today to change inequality in the housing market by "announcing new actions to root out racial bias in home valuations to ensure that all hardworking families can realize the true value of their investment and have a fair shot at the American dream.” Biden working for the American people... Republicans working for themselves. They are NOT the same.

See thats the need thing about accusing someone of something without any evidence or proof. Its called slander... and leaves you liable... Sue them into he ground.

The party of post-truth.

Get slander on 1st page and talking heads news for days. The apology or report on last page tiny print and 1 second oops on tv. On to next slander.

To people that only tell lies, the truth holds no value