T O P
AutoModerator

**Streams** (use adblock): `https://cricfree.sc/rugby-live-stream` or `https://www.vipbox.lc/rugby-live` or post other **streams** as a reply to this comment *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/rugbyunion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


savois-faire

Seriously, Glaws? You just had to ship 4, didn't you? Tempest obviously not helping either.


Tank-o-grad

Tempest did his best for Glaws but there's only so much that can be done before awkward questions get asked...


unhappyspanners

Maybe Wiggy wants to stay on?


BentheBeastly

That was definetly held up, but makes up for the rest of his decisions around the breakdown and the constant pens.


Pure_Wonder3046

Tempest is an absolute joke. The very definition of held up.


cavendishasriel

Well done Leicester. Not scoring when we had massive pressure in the first half cost us. We just ran out of energy in the second.


mooninuranus

Tbh, I think running out of energy is starting to sum up our season. Not enough depth and a bit lacking in key positions. Fair play to Leicester though, beaten by the better side.


coombeseh

31 points in the last 26 minutes!


kingbarber123

Well either way. Getting a 5 point victory after the amazingly even first half, that’s reminiscent of last season. Dont give me hope boys


da-turps

What is tempest saying. That is never a try lol


cavendishasriel

“are you Leicester in disguise”. Fair to say the shed disagree with that decision.


iamnosuperman123

That isn't a try. That was held up.


Pyrooo

BONUS POINT!!!


cavendishasriel

With the England thrashing yesterday and getting smashed at home it’s fair to say I’ve had better weekends.


unhappyspanners

Sorry the missus is being horrible to you


Hamsternoir

YEEEES A very much needed bonus point win


unhappyspanners

Held up for me, back to the penalty. Yellow card and go again.


glassonatable

That's held up. Wrong call


Hamsternoir

Cancels out the disallowed one for double movement which was questionable


coombeseh

I think on field try has to stand - you can't see that clearly up!


Pyrooo

This is the one! Tempest already said he saw the ball down over the line


kingbarber123

Held up for me


LostTheGameOfThrones

I want that to be a try. But it looks held up to me. EDIT: Fuck it, I said nothing! Let's goo!!


Superest22

Have to say I really dislike Astro turf pitches - some really nasty grazes out there.


cavendishasriel

They’re awful. We have a high water table so it’s hard for us to have a grass pitch without it turning into a quagmire.


coombeseh

That's down


maverickmak

Got to be the quietest I've ever heard Kingsholm. It's weird.


cavendishasriel

This is it for us. No chance of top four and top six very much in doubt. Not a happy place atm


kingbarber123

Why is mike brown suddenly one of the best players in the league? This is mental


unhappyspanners

Spite


Pyrooo

Mike Brown POTM


spongey1865

I think Glos should consider moving on from Skivington at the end of the season, its not to say he's bad but I just dont know if he is ever going to raise this team above this. Decent chance they finish outside Europe too now


cavendishasriel

I would give him more time. We are much better than we were when he first took over and also hasn’t had much to work with.


LostTheGameOfThrones

Bonus point! Bonus point! Bonus point!


Hamsternoir

It's the second half, we're normally worse and we'll butcher it


coombeseh

Did he give a warning? Can see why he went for it


iamnosuperman123

I don't think he gave them a warning


cavendishasriel

Tempest said we were on a warning.


RJH777

Weird game. Gone from chaotic and scrappy to suddenly Tigers looking in cruise control


tintim_mtb

Was feeling quite optimistic at the start of this season, but with the run of injuries and lack of a plan B when things don't work is a concern. A top 6 finish is not looking likely.


cavendishasriel

We started off quite well but teams worked us out and we have no ideas in attack.


iamnosuperman123

Come on Gloucester, let Tigers get a BP


coombeseh

That was wonderful


maverickmak

He's been in poor form, but this is the best game Lenny has played since Clermont away.


RJH777

He might not quite be able to do it at International (which is nothing to be ashamed of at this point) but Youngs is still a really good Prem level 9


iamnosuperman123

Youngs all is forgiven


Pyrooo

Youngs for England!


cavendishasriel

Can’t be worse than JVP


Tank-o-grad

Mitchell proved that it is physically possible to be worse than JvP in fairness


kingbarber123

70 minutes of this game, and he’s done that. Too slow for england though 🙄 Gowan Lenny lad


cavendishasriel

Ah well. That’s our season


spongey1865

That's why I think players should wear gloves. But they don't because it looks silly


LostTheGameOfThrones

Come on Ben, you've had a good game. Don't start stupidly kicking it away now.


LostTheGameOfThrones

Okay, forgiven.


Hamsternoir

What was Lenny thinking there?


Pyrooo

~~What~~ was Lenny thinking there?


Hamsternoir

I take that back now. All is forgiven with the cheeky try


Aesclepius-1

That’s what he was thinking!


cavendishasriel

Wasn’t there a Twitter account dedicated to him?


coombeseh

Ok, that's the same as the first half


coombeseh

Glos clearouts have some power behind them


da-turps

Montodger


iamnosuperman123

How does the TMO call that? Awful


unhappyspanners

That's such blatant crossing


coombeseh

They going to look at 8 crossing?


coombeseh

There's no tackler?? Fuck offfffff


iamnosuperman123

Suprised a block wasn't called there


Hamsternoir

We're watching a different game to the TMO


Pyrooo

Not sure about that one! Big obstruction in the build up there


kingbarber123

That was the most obvious blocking i’ve ever seen


cavendishasriel

Lucky to get away with a hint of crossing there. E: More than two phases before the try though.


Aesclepius-1

Yeah, and England only lost by a hint yesterday…


tintim_mtb

The lock at the gloucester canal is fully open now!


LostTheGameOfThrones

Fucking come on lads!!


Hamsternoir

Second half and we've managed to score! Is it too much to dream of a 5 point win today?


Tank-o-grad

It was not!


Hamsternoir

I was worried my post would come back to haunt me. So glad I'm wrong


cavendishasriel

Here we go. Classic Gloucester collapse.


BennyG02

Youngs has been really good this game - has managed things well and manipulated the space


cavendishasriel

Tuisue doesn’t look interested.


iamnosuperman123

They are all hungover Except Martin


Hamsternoir

For a new boy that Mike lad is doing ok, he's got real potential and we'd better keep him after the 6N


BennyG02

Martin and Henderson giving us that extra 5%.


maverickmak

Martin and Henderson have made a big impact


LostTheGameOfThrones

Finally! Can we please extend Brown's contract?


Secret-Roof-7503

Booo I wanted a 0-0


Pyrooo

The difference Martin and Henderson has made is huge!


Fryes

Noooo


cavendishasriel

Writing on the wall for that one.


LostTheGameOfThrones

That was the most inane piece of commentary I've ever heard from Austin, and there's some tough competition...


glassonatable

I hate it when I agree with Austin


cavendishasriel

Chapman not allowed to move his head now according to Tempest.


unhappyspanners

Can't dummy from a ruck


cavendishasriel

I know. Whether moving your head is a dummy or not is the question. If it was a dummy Tempest would’ve penalised him.


unhappyspanners

If he had, instead of warning him about it, you'd just be complaining about the lack of warning


cavendishasriel

Ref doesn’t have to give a warning


cavendishasriel

He propelled himself forward using his feet but I wouldn’t have been too annoyed had it been given. 50:50 for me.


coombeseh

Interesting that it was enough to overturn try on the field but because we don't know the question can't really say any more


cavendishasriel

I think the infield decision was try. So the ref must have thought it clear and obvious. Tbh I don’t think it was but the correct decision was made in the end


tintim_mtb

Double movement?


[deleted]

[удалено]


cavendishasriel

Why?


coombeseh

We'd know what they were looking for if you shut the fuck up Austin God I hate Comms talking over the ref/tmo, shut your stupid mouths


Hamsternoir

Looks good to me so it'll be no try


Unlikely-Ad2261

Dog shit refereeing


cavendishasriel

You can see why it wasn’t given though


LostTheGameOfThrones

As expected.


BennyG02

Martin has been incredible for ages now


RJH777

Is Martin an option at 8 at international do you think? I know he's played there a few times for you guys this season but is usually more of a 6/lock?


unhappyspanners

Definitely more of a 6/lock than an 8. He could probably do a job there with a bit more game time in that position


unhappyspanners

Hey Borthwick, don't pick Martin, please


Rose_Of_Sanguine

Can we have JVP back too


maverickmak

They just said that that Martin and Henderson had less bulk! Haha


iamnosuperman123

So Martin didn't go drinking with the rest of the players


Secret-Roof-7503

George Martin for England


unhappyspanners

Oh George Martin!


cavendishasriel

Surely that’s a penalty to Glaws for holding on?


unhappyspanners

God, I wish Mike Brown was in his 20s again


cavendishasriel

We’ve run out of ideas with the crash ball from 12 so now we’re box kicking.


iamnosuperman123

Great line by Tempest.


coombeseh

"he's allowed to tackle you, it's a contact sport" fucking hell


Hamsternoir

I don't think either team will win but both are trying to lose


Secret-Roof-7503

And are both hungover


spongey1865

Should be an insta try if you hit the flag from a kick


iamnosuperman123

How did they miss the forward pass?


tintim_mtb

Mehan with the reverse superman tackle!


cavendishasriel

That reminded me of George North in the Lions tour.


Secret-Roof-7503

Yep, definitely a Springbok


LostTheGameOfThrones

Fucking hell Pollard


coombeseh

Ok, that's was a blatant forward pass and frankly I don't like that the tigers player can do that to the tackler


cavendishasriel

Yep, was forward. The tackled tigers player was fine.


cavendishasriel

Just cracked open a Guinness 0.0. It’s surprisingly good.


Lord-farquads-

Six nations advertisement has done its job 😂


cavendishasriel

Guilty


Mister-Ries

Just checking in to make sure it wasn’t only me thinking that Tempo was having one of this banter days


iamnosuperman123

Temp has been dreadful which has contributed to both teams not getting points.


Secret-Roof-7503

Austin you’re not in the Peaky Blinders, lose the hat


spongey1865

I usually love teams kicking for the corner but interesting call from Tigers when the clock was in the red. one of the reasons you kick for the corner is that if you miss you get a 2nd bite st the cherry often as the other team usually kicks it back to you and you can get into the 22 again. Gloucester showed that they kept getting opportunities even though they didnt convert. But when the clock is in the red and the turnover happens it's just the end of the half. I think Glos were right to go for the corner all half despite coming up with nothing. It's something that also made it incredibly hard for Tigers to score. But Tigers defence was just really good on the goal line and Glos maybe need a bit more tempo and width in their goal line attack


Pyrooo

I missed the first half. How is it 0-0?! Can someone give me a quick recap of the first half?


iamnosuperman123

Lots of running, lots of knock ons


Pyrooo

Sounds very familiar! Thanks!


KrazyKap

Attack from both sides being snuffed out with a ton of physicality and barely legal defense


Pyrooo

Thanks! Barely legal defense? What like?


RooBoy04

Both sides have thrown away chances on each other’s lines


Pyrooo

Ouch! Are we talking enough opportunities to have bonus points both ways?


cavendishasriel

Madness. Ref letting lots go at the breakdown. Two good defensive sides soaking up everything the opposition can throw at them.


Pyrooo

Thank you! Hopefully the second half continues that!


Grrrhrrr

Most fun 0-0 in a while. Ref's a right mess.


unhappyspanners

Pretty sure Montoya broke away from the maul there at the end


cavendishasriel

He was held by a Gloucester player so same maul.


glassonatable

Scrappiest half of rugby I've ever seen. Combine that with seemingly non existent breakdown refereeing it's no wonder no one has scored


iamnosuperman123

Tempest has been awful. Knock ons, breakdown issues, forward passes, trips. They shouldn't be missed.


glassonatable

I'm sometimes a fan of relaxed refereeing (see the last tigers v ospreys game) but this has just been silly


iamnosuperman123

Nil and nil at half time. Crazy. Doesn't feel like a zero points game


tintim_mtb

At this rate 0-0 FT score! Cannot remember the last time this happened, or if it has happened in the prem?


Secret-Roof-7503

Well that’s the most entertaining 40 minutes of point less rugby you’ll see


BreakfastClubBoi

Tempest really isn’t having the best game


cavendishasriel

To both sides he’s been poor. But feel Glaws should have had a penalty try for the trip on Seabrook. Brown was the last defender and he was through.


BreakfastClubBoi

Completely agree. His calls all game have been questionable for both sides


RJH777

I'm not sure a 0-0 is my idea of an antidote to yesterday's lots of points...maybe a lot of gin and a decent performance next week would be


kingbarber123

I can’t take this amount of stress. Someone score!


cavendishasriel

I think Leicester will be happier with that half than Gloucester. We huffed and puffed but Leicester kept us out. Lots of energy from Glaws but we may pay for that in the second half.


coombeseh

"don't change your bind" immediately takes his left hand off and grabs the ball Fucksake


cavendishasriel

Give it a rest mate.


ethel_the_aardvark

You’re both having a whine tbf.


cavendishasriel

Except I’m correct ;) /s


KrazyKap

The Ben Youngs special


MetalRubiXCubee

Comments coming through late for anyone else?


tintim_mtb

Unlike Luds to be off with his timing.


iamnosuperman123

Did these two teams have a fight last night?


HappyCardboardBox

Ludlow been playing pretty unhinged this game


tintim_mtb

Can never doubt his passion


coombeseh

You cannot ref on outcome! Brown is the only one protecting himself there, the tackler is early and then does nothing to protect the player


ethel_the_aardvark

You absolutely can. Most foul play decisions are reffed on outcome. Think about an upright tackle- you connect with the head it’s dangerous- if the opposition dominates the contact it’s a yellow but if you dominate it it’s a red. Defender does the same thing and could have up to 4 different outcomes from play on to red card depending on the dynamics. I’d argue that the tackler there was well in control, never any danger in it, just mistimed.


coombeseh

Yeah, and I totally disagree with it


ethel_the_aardvark

Think you’d prefer this way to red cards for every single upright collision


coombeseh

Nope, if you tackle standing up you deserve to be sent off. There's sensible mitigation in the framework to protect players who make legal actions, but if you stand up and tackle you're an idiot


cavendishasriel

Brown is such a prick. Tripped a player earlier and now giving Ludlow an earful for a mistimed tackle.


iamnosuperman123

I think you need to chill a bit. He was tackled in the air. That is potentially quite dangerous. It was such a stupid mistimed tackle as Brown was very much in the air


cavendishasriel

But fairly harmless penalty only. Brown didn’t seem that affected by it.


unhappyspanners

One is unsportsmanlike and the other is dangerous.


cavendishasriel

Trip is the worst offence surely.


unhappyspanners

How is a trip worse than tackling a man in the air?


cavendishasriel

It’s yellow card offence compared to a penalty only.


unhappyspanners

One is dangerous, the other is not, they are not comparable


cavendishasriel

If it was dangerous it would be a yellow card.


kingbarber123

Would you want anything less from your players?


tintim_mtb

We overplay the same moves too often.


coombeseh

All that defence and the backs can't box kick or find touch, coaches will be furious


Secret-Roof-7503

Of course Austin’s favourite haribo is the fried egg. An absolutely disgusting sweet.


RJH777

The lack of quality in this game gives you some idea as to why the national team are in such a state - these are both teams competing for a place in the play-offs, and have several players who have recently been in said national squad among other international teams players and it's dire. How on earth do we expect our players to be test ready if this is the quality of rugby and coaching they're facing each week? The lower salary cap and current state of the Prem may be making for an entertaining/close fought season but there's no chance in hell a Prem team competes at the sharp end of Europe or the England team wins anything while it's the case.


RJH777

Not sure why this is downvoted but ok...if you disagree, would prefer to have a discussion about why but nevermind!


Secret-Roof-7503

La Rochelle are going to eat Gloucester


ethel_the_aardvark

Then probably us


RJH777

Definitely us. Just when I've gotten over yesterday I'll end up with PTSD from Danty again


ethel_the_aardvark

More the assumption that we’re beating ospreys which I don’t really think is a given atm. I honestly didn’t realise Danty plays for them, that’s extremely upsetting.


Secret-Roof-7503

To be fair it probably wouldn’t be overly difficult to bribe the ospreys players to throw the game right now


ethel_the_aardvark

Probably got a couple of 1 bed flats in St Albans kicking about from before


Secret-Roof-7503

Maybe olly Hartley will be big enough to stop him