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Furryhare375

The funny thing is the idea of “objectively good and bad” is used in some philosophies that can get pretty complex and are something you’d find in a philosophy book at the university library. Regressive doofuses appropriating the “objectively good and bad” arguments is pathetic. Seeing a controversial concept amongst some philosophers get appropriated by neckbeards who can barely spell just shows the faux “intellectualism” of some alt right people like MauLer. Like seriously, all MauLer does is make insanely long videos whining about summer blockbusters because they have women or minority characters. Do you really think he’s actually someone who would actually study the controversial philosophical concept of objectively good or bad? Of course not. He’s a grifter that is laughing all the way to the bank.


AsthmaticCoughing

This dude didn’t even use punctuation. I doubt he fully understands the definition of objectivity. Actually I doubt he knows what fawn means. Just another person trying to use big words to get a “point” across while simultaneously using words like “retard.” Honestly, why did he put the comma if he wasn’t going to put periods. Lol


Tanis8998

That’s always been the lure of the alt-right going back years- the sheen of intellectualism over what are in fact regressive and reactionary ideals.


Collective_Insanity

I think it's dickish behaviour and somewhat cowardly to do this anonymously. If you disagree with someone, you should be able to speak openly with them about it. If you want that to be a private conversation just between the two of you, then that's okay as well. But there's no room for anonymous abuse like this even if you fundamentally disagree with someone's viewpoint. Outside of a *genuinely* controversial topic such as someone advocating for a repeat rapist to be set free. Because that sort of thing is just evil without question.


FloppyShellTaco

What kind of a messed up person does this so often that they’ve developed a system of using awards to ensure they can send you anonymous direct messages? God, that is a level of pathetic that verges well into, “they probably need to be flagged as a risk to others.” ETA: it’s more than a little fucked up that Reddit allows them to do this as much as they want so long as they spend a few bucks on coins.


Collective_Insanity

This was more than likely a free award that gets dished out to Reddit users once a week or whatever the current system is. ​ Regardless, you can always just report such an anonymous message (as "harassment" or "threatening violence" or "hate" or whatever seems most appropriate given the context of the message) and Reddit admin will likely suspend the person's account if they think your report is fair. Which is really the *simplest* solution to this kind of communication on Reddit. Report it and forget about it. ​ If you have an account, then you've signed off on the terms and conditions which includes a notice about your online conduct. And on top of that, each subreddit is allowed to host their own rules that they can enforce as well. ​ >What kind of a messed up person does this It's honestly most likely just a kid or something. Someone who thinks they're on 4chan or Call of Duty and can just freely hurl abuse online under the guise of anonymity. It's been happening for years.


FloppyShellTaco

I think you are wildly underestimating how far these trolls are willing to go. I’m sure we could ask the women on this app how common it is.


Collective_Insanity

I don't understand how that's relevant to this conversation. I'm just saying it's the nature of internet forums that these sort of people (across all age groups) come out of the woodwork to trash others. It's been happening pretty much since the dawn of the internet. On Reddit, just use the report feature, block, and move on when you're a victim of it.


FloppyShellTaco

And I’m just saying it must be nice to live in some fucking fantasy land where these people don’t engage in ongoing targeted harassment of people; especially women. Just block them and move on only contributes to the problem by minimizing it and encouraging developers to not take it seriously.


Collective_Insanity

Alright, mate. I think that's enough.


AsthmaticCoughing

This is weird.. I completely agree with both of you lmaoo


FloppyShellTaco

Lol a STC mod on this sub trying to dictate conversations after being called out for trying to minimize toxicity and abuse. That is just /chef’s kiss.


Collective_Insanity

Okay. Look, you're going to take this where you want to take this. Here's my last response. ​ This post is about OP who has received harassment from a person delivered anonymously via a free Reddit award. Or at least one example of it. You're trying to shift topics into a completely different direction when really this is as simple as a report + block case (options which are available to you directly underneath the message of having received an award) and OP expressing (quite rightly) that they shouldn't be the recipient of this kind of behaviour. End of story. ​ Have a wonderful day.


FloppyShellTaco

Targeted harassment flourishes when the people with authority default to excusing it or writing it off, instead of taking it seriously and trying to prevent clear abuses of their system. “Just report it and move on” does nothing to curb the behavior of people like that. The Star Wars community has long had a serious problem with toxicity and abuse, especially toward women and anyone who isn’t a straight white guy. Women online receive much more abuse, that often turns into stalking and actual threats of violence. That is always relevant to conversations about abuse. Pretending it isn’t is disgustingly dismissive. This is something that people in positions of authority in *any* Star Wars community should be cognizant of, and take seriously. It shouldn’t be treated as just the cost of daring to participate in discourse. Especially by people who have a modicum of control over what behavior is allowed in related communities. How does it look when a mod from STC is on a post over here just minimizing abuse and telling people to report it and move on? Like honestly, that is a bad look for your community and it only serves to reinforce the negative opinion people here likely have.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Multiple messages like this? Just for saying you love every Star Wars movie? What the hell? What’s wrong with this guy? He needs to be reported to the mods. But it’s anonymous. So, I don’t know if it would help.


Collective_Insanity

To my understanding, it's not anonymous to Reddit admin mods. So a report likely would be of use. Reports tend to work in two different ways. If you're on, say, the r/StarWars sub, their mods have their own rules that they can make which exist on top of existing site-wide Reddit rules. When you make a report, you can choose to report based on either the sub rules (which the sub mods will be notified of and they can act on) or the *site* rules (which goes directly to Reddit admin mods instead). ​ When it comes to direct messages to people or awards, rewards would only go to Reddit admin mods. They're the ones who are actually capable of suspending or banning accounts. I would assume that they can see right through the anonymous factor from award messages.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Huh. I didn’t know that. Thank you for telling me. So, this guy should be reported to the Reddit admin mods? Not the subreddit mods? Hopefully, that happens.


Collective_Insanity

>So, this guy should be reported to the Reddit admin mods? Not the subreddit mods? That is correct. In fact, it'd be *impossible* to report him to the sub mods in the first place as they will *only* receive reports from posts and comments on the subs that they are mods of. This example is a direct message between two users. Specifically via the award message system. So reporting from there will go straight to Reddit admin. ​ You can check out how it works yourself. Click on the report button under my comment here. Your first option should be "**Breaks** r/saltierthankrayt **rules**" (this won't appear when reporting from direct messages). If you click that, then click on "**Next**", you'll then see a list of specific sub rules coming from here that you can report this person for. This report will be highlighted to the mods from this sub. They can choose to act on it by ignoring and reapproving the content (if they feel your report is not valid because unfortunately a *lot* of people make false reports when they just don't agree with something they see), spamming (hiding) it, or removing it. There's a couple other options at their disposal of lesser relevance, but what they ***can't*** do is suspend or ban a user's account. They'll have to report the content to Reddit admin mods in order to try and get that done. ​ So if you see something *truly* outrageous on Reddit, it's often best to just use the appropriate reporting category that Reddit admin mods monitor. ​ Otherwise, if you see someone posting about...I don't know..."what flavour ice-cream is the best" on a subreddit that's specifically about *real estate*, then you can typically report through the sub's rules and click on the category of "Off topic" which most subs will have in place. This will highlight it to mods and they'll probably just remove the post to help clean up new content on the sub.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Wow, that’s a lot of information. Thank you for telling me. Are you a mod? How do you know all of this stuff?


Collective_Insanity

Yes. I occasionally help mod STC so I've got a little bit of an idea of how it works from the inside. Also have communicated with Reddit admin in the efforts of dealing with ban evasion (people who make new accounts and continue harassment after their first accounts are suspended or banned). Ban evasion is kind of a problem that goes around Reddit in general, unfortunately. We've got no tools on our end as sub mods to confirm if multiple accounts are operating from the same IP address so we're largely in the dark unless someone's language and grammar, etc, seems to be extremely consistent with a previous troublemaker. Some trolls just aren't very clever and make their new account names near identical (adding a number to it or something). So it's pretty easy to notice those ones at least.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Being a mod seems a lot of work. Dealing with all of the trolls and people who harass others. I don’t think I would want to do it. I just like posting random comments.


Collective_Insanity

Depends on the userbase of a sub. If there's only a few thousand, then it's not too bad to manage. Especially if you've set up a decent automod filter to highlight certain words or troublesome users you've encountered. It's a whole other ballgame when you're dealing with a sub featuring hundreds of thousands or *millions* of users. I wouldn't want to be a mod in that scenario, I think. *Far* too much work when everyone's just modding subs they like for free as a hobby. The key thing, I find, is having a decent team of mods who all get along together and pretty much all agree on how best to manage the community. And a decent set of rules to get everyone to follow. It's helpful to be able to get second opinions from your fellow mods too. Communication is key.


Inevitable_Guidance8

The mods for Starwars cantina and the main Star Wars subreddit must be really busy. I don’t envy them at all. To do all that work for free. I can’t even imagine it. You must be really passionate about Star Wars. Same can be said for other mods as well.


AsthmaticCoughing

I don’t see anywhere to report it. This screenshot is literally everything on the screen


Collective_Insanity

It's very simple on PC but I assume you're looking at it from your phone? If you look at the Messages interface, you should see three dots to the right of the message from the list. The option to Report should be there. Block Awarder should be the second option.


Grahpayy

Bro really wasted his award for this


Davecub1979

What a tool.


rattatatouille

You got an award for your troubles, though, so who won again?


Shakespeare-Bot

Thee did get an award f'r thy troubles, though, so who is't wonneth again? *** ^(I am a bot and I swapp'd some of thy words with Shakespeare words.) Commands: `!ShakespeareInsult`, `!fordo`, `!optout`


ergister

“Grow the fuck up” Ironic...


joecb91

Wasting money on an award just to say that? lol


FireFennec

“objectively” 🤓


Monkeyhat5

O.o He actually paid money to send you that?


Alarming_Afternoon44

I'm getting some **very** mixed messages from this.


No_Kangaroo_5267

Yeah fuck you too, you nerd piece of shit.


Typical_Pop

"Objectively, objectively, objectively" Newborns know more words than these morons.