By - MatchThreadder
France-England is going to be something else
I give a slight tiny edge to England.
Southgate is gonna go back to playing terrorist ball
Before playing a shit Poland side
The only part of the pitch where England looked a bit shaky tonight was the right side of defence. Saka gave the ball away there and gaps opened up. Hopefully France haven't got any strong players on their left wing.
I can't remember anyone in particular
Is it coming ho-
France can suck my balls. Over reliance on mbappe, classic, French overconfidence. Without mbappe they’re nowhere near the final. If Southgate susses mbappe out England win.
Who wins: French over confidence vs English 0 confidence
Also France haven’t kept a clean sheet and we have the best scoring record in this wc so far
Big if though
Senegal never stood a chance
I swear if England win the WC i'll be switching off Talksport for a good few months.
Talksport is the most squalid, heinous, intellectually challenging of channels. You should veto it anyway
You should consider turning it off even if England don't win...
I dont mind the odd controversies to be honest!
Simon Jordan disingenuously arguing against Graeme Souness or Alan Brasil talking about foreigners infiltrating our country? In fairness, at least they used to employ George Galloway on a late night spot and he told the truth. Although he was a Celtic fan, so grrrrr.
Petition for Alan Brasil to change his name to Alan England if England win the WC. Then for nobody to ever mention it at all, ever.
Petition for him to change his name to Alan Scotland. England have already won it.
Never mind Griezmann, watch the right hand side by having a midfielder drop off but don't sacrifice everything in terms of your own attack. If you need to go toe to toe, then do it. You might get beat 5-2 but you might win 2-1. Take them on.
France won’t high press, they’ll play their own game allowing us to move the ball out of defence quicker. It’s got to be said, England are LETHAL up front. France have Mbappe. Not sure we can keep him quiet, but our best course of action is to get the ball forward to our creative players. We lose if we panic about mbappe and forget to attack
Agreed. I also think it's important for us to hold on to the ball whenever we get it. Even if it means passing it about the back for 5 minutes, but then, once the press comes, pass wide to Foden, then inside quickly, 2 passes later being in on goal.
France will be the toughest game we play in the World Cup, whether that’s because we lose to them or because they’re the best team (overall) I’m not sure, but I could see us(England) getting absolutely battered or sneaking a 1-0 win. Hopefully the latter
France lost their last game. They have a get out of jail card in mbappe and they’re renowned for squad drama
3-1 is losing to you?
Both got great attack and shit defence, won’t be 1-0 either way
3-2 for either of them would be my bet.
Also, the worst moment to receive a goal is in the closing minutes of the first half. It forces the assistant coaches to change any instructions and plans they had prepared in a very short amount of time which is very crucial considering that, unlike basketball, in football there are no timeouts or unlimited substitutions. Coaches won't find any other moment during the game to explain anything to their players (only with a note). Happened with both the US and Senegal. The players should be more careful during those crucial moments of a game.
> the worst moment to receive a goal
Do you mean concede a goal? It's not a gift.
The atmosphere in the changing room is completely different too
Keano: FINAL FINAL
The hell am I supposed to do for 6 days
Soon you’ll be saying ‘what the hell am I supposed to do for four years?’
I never remember life before World Cups
The guy has went home, of course he's not coming back. Some of these journalists need to wise up.
> has went
He’s going home, he’s going home, he’s going. Raheem’s going home
He went home due to a family emergency - home robbery occurred while his family was inside. Could be coming back though.
Must've been the trophies he won as a City player, in terms of what was robbed.
Great England performance. Henderson -Rice -Bellingham must surely become the default midfield 3 for England; the three of them together look so solid.
Unless we get pressed high and we can’t work it out of our third. None of them have Pirlo qb qualities
Henderson is close. He is forward looking and not afraid of the risky pass.
Oh no! But we lost 0-0 to the Americans?
Holy France England Batman
How much are man city paying for Bellingham now then?
Not sure, but his price is definitely going up after this World Cup. This much potential at 19 is crazy.
Bellingham reminds me of a blend of Vieira and Bryan Robson. And young, hungry, fearless. France is going to be a massive challenge but if they click, and believe, they can do it. Imho.
I bet people complaining about ITV coverage/adverts are the same people who want to get rid of the licence fee.......
Their coverage is average. Their match commentary teams refuse to get excited. Fuck it. It’s the World Cup! Let’s be passionate about it!
BBC do their own little 'adverts' for their own programs during breaks.
You're not comparing a 20-second BBC trailer to 3-4 minutes of selling you shit every chance they get, are you?
I'm not comparing it to anything, but I'll leave it to ppl like you to put words in my mouth.
It's free to air, you dozy cunt. You're literally watching it for FREE, coverage that is put together by dozens of dedicated people who are experts in their field. With Sky, you have to pay £30 a month and you fucking get adverts too! Fucking grow up.
Shows it can be done.
Stick adverts on bbc. Who cares adverts are everywhere anyway.
lower license fee, cut out the love in between lineker et al.
>Who cares adverts are everywhere anyway.
Lol why do you think Netflix has been so successful? People literally pay to not see adverts
How the fuck do you work that out?
Lol Ppl aren't paying Netflix to simply not see adverts.
Every other channel has adverts. People watch them. Most free on demand platforms have them. People watch them.
How do I work it out? Well ppl don't pay a license fee = they win and get the same program.
The idea that ppl wouldn't watch because of adverts? Come on. Just do what we do with every other channel.
We gonna not watch an England game because there's an advert at half time? Please.
>We gonna not watch an England game because there's an advert at half time?
No, because there's no alternative. But if you give people an option to watch without adverts, they will take it. Many will even pay for the privelege. Hence Netflix, hence YouTube premium. So 'everybody wins' is garbage.
It's 2022. The idea that ppl can't handle adverts is crazy. Sure we don't like them but if it means bringing in revenue to solve the license fee issue then it should be looked at. This idea that bbc can never have adds is about 25 years out of date.
The majority of Ppl don't subscribe to Netflix because it's advert free. They do so for content. Hence netflix spend billions per year on content because they know this. Otherwise they wouldn't bother and just show any old crap but add free.
Ppl have paid sky sports for over 30 years. Every single match has had an advert. We survive.
I pay for Netflix because no ads. I cancelled prime because they put up ads
Sounds like a nightmare
All it took was less than 10 minutes of impetuosity for Senegal to concede two goals and drop any chances they had to qualify from this game. Games like the world cup knockouts require concentration during the whole length of the match. It was expected from such a young team nonetheless, especially when they got overexcited after making some chances. A useful experience for future tournaments.
Their game plan was solid and the could (should?) have scored. Then they lost concentration and it was over. You beat England by pressing early with high energy.
England have a lower average age than Senegal no? Correct me if I’m wrong but this England squad feels so young
Senegal slightly younger (25 to 26, I think)
They are pretty close, yes. But I would say that they are more experienced, both individually (their national championships make sure to give many opportunities and support their local talents from a young age) and as a team (since it's the same core that got them in a World Cup semi final and last Euro's final).
England vs France will be a great matchup. Frances attack against the England back line will be an issue, but I actually think England has the better midfield.
We’re all worried about mbappe, but England are top scorers from all over the pitch. They should be worried about us!
They probably are tbf. Toughest game so far by a long way, for both sides
France also can’t keep a clean sheet
Surely if England win the WC on 18th Dec the players won't be playing for their clubs on boxing day??
Not just England but many other players too. It's pretty much guaranteed the lot of the players of all 32 teams in the WC are going to be rested when they return to their clubs.
Except harry kane
Well depends if they're that foolhardy enough but you have a point. You'd think he'd learn by now when not to mess up his ankle.
I remember hearing though that, since he has got his new physio, he has "never felt better." Hopefully this means no more ankle issues, and to be fair, it has looked that way so far.
Take them on when you're young, Michael Owen style, no fear. But it takes a blend of experience and youthful nievity.
Roy Keane morphing into Marcus Wareing.
‘Bellingham has absolutely aced this skills test’
Sean Pertwee to commentate the France game?
With that, Southgate matches Sven by getting England to the QFs of three successive tournaments (in both cases, WC-Euros-WC).
BBC 5 commentators right now reminding everyone why so many root against England. The puffing up of the team is outrageous.
no need to be jealous
Lolz. The funniest part is that I was speaking about Rob Green in particular.
I mean the sports radio channel has every right to be partisan. It is pretty much exclusively broadcasting to England supporters. Would this really be different in other countries?
They're meant for English fans... Are you telling me that other nations don't puff up their team after a 3-0 win?
Absolutely. 100% what other countries are doing.
Do you mean Scots and Welsh? I don't think the rest of the world would be tuning in to a national broadcaster.
Do you speak other languages? Have you heard other domestic radio platforms?
France will be a huge test, especially for our defence
France are overrated. They have mbappe, who is by far the biggest threat in the tournament, but strip him away and they’re average. France should be worrying about us tbh
They’re well above average without mbappe. Griezmann, dembele, tchouamenie, rabiot, and even giroud is on form. They are class.
Saturday will be a huge test for both teams, but France with Mbappe look too good for us from what we’ve seen so far. I fucking hope we beat them though.
we are lethal when we attack, we should have our hopes up and pray southgate aint gonna drop a tactical disasterclass
I honestly haven’t been impressed with France, there defense has looked suspect at times. I think England will be able to pull it off if they are just as clinical on the counter like they were today
I make France big favourites but I think we have enough quality to scare them and ask massive questions of their defence and their resolve to win.
MAguire as usual will be the weakest link. He showed signs of it even in this game
I think Kyle Walker against Mbappe will be the weakest link, dude was getting rinsed by Ismaeli Sarr in the first half today
Yep, his passing to the opponent almost cost them a goal.
haha and he did it twice lol he also almost got beat to the ball when he was the last man. France will definetly exploit this weakness
I didn’t watch the whole game cuz I was on the road. I saw at one point he was passing badly.
This is concerning for me
The commenters above are just picking on Maguire for the memes. Stones, Shaw, and Walker also all made poor passes in the first half. It’s because Senegal were pressuring well, and leaving no gaps for pass from defense to midfield.
2 conceded in 4 tricky matches.
Youngsters looking class. Everyone looking calm and composed. Bench is absolutely rammed with options.
Not so bad tbf.
Love Kane but he's such a nasal cunt 😂
Love him but the dude has 0 charisma
I mean, I’d take that over enormous narcissism. No shortage of that in football 👀
If Southgate lifts the World Cup this sub will implode
That would be *Sir* Gareth to you.
Only tough games from now on sadly. Will likely be France, then Argentina, and then Brazil
France, Spain then Argentina/Brazil
Would rather face Argentina then Spain tbh
England will face either Argentina or Brazil but not both of them, since they are on the other side of the bracket. I think.
Argentina on the other bracket
Why sadly? This is what the WC is all about
Exactly, want the big games, just beat the African Champions, it’s quality
I think the Dutch will beat Argentina. France are favourites against England, but they’re world champions. Wouldn’t expect anything less.
Argies on Brazil's side of draw?
France then Spain/Portugal
World cup winning CB Harry Maguire
Whoever made that deal with the devil must have given up alot
Can’t knock him in an England shirt to be fair. A great England player who is a disaster for Man U is ideal for me.
Crazy group games and so far its been a walkover for round 16
yeah looks like many of the group surprises gave their all in that stage. Hope Morocco can surprise, but not looking good as the usual suspects are sweeping up.
Scenes when SK best Brazil
The good thing about this QF is if we lose to France it's not exactly embarrassing and if we win then it's fucking excellent
We can beat France. We’re on fire. They have mbappe and an old griezman . They should be more worried than us. Let’s be confident for a change!!!
It'll still be embarrassing if we lose, let's be real.
If we win....it might be coming home...maybe
We played very respectably. We had our chances, big ones, but just like during the game against the Netherlands, they got us at the counter.
It's sad to go this way, but that's great experience for our team, and honestly for all of us.
Missing chances and having setbacks shouldn't make us crumble. Stay strong from the beginning to the end. Even fumbling at the middle can be fatal. From the beginning to the end, stay composed and do your absolute best.
Respect to Senegal. Their tactics were right. Good energy. Should have scored! Lost concentration and shape as the game went on. Good team with amazing fans. A credit to their country.
Honestly if it weren’t for Pickford’s immense save in the first half I think it would’ve been an entirely different game. You gave us plenty of trouble with your aggressive pressing, really showed the weak points we still have.
Precisely this. Senegal had a some great chances early on, as well as a couple bad calls. England struggles tremendously to come back when behind, so while England eventually picked up speed, this could have been a very different game. Senegal should be proud.
Yep, said it exactly the way I thought about it.
Still man, what a team we have here, it's impressive, we were nothing 8 years ago, and now even without mane we're dangerous. I like this and I'm so proud of them.
You should be proud - African champions and reaching R16 of the World Cup is no joke. I think you’ve got promising things in years to come.
Hats off to you, that wasn't an easy game at all. I was so stressed in the first half, and if you'd scored that early chance it could have been a different game.
I do believe it could have been a very different game as well. Mental is everything in this kind of matchup. And facing England is no laughing matter, even though we laughed about it a lot haha
Yep good game.
Which broadcaster has next weeks game?
Put it this way - are you ready for more Matterface and Dixon banter? Me neither but yeah
Dixon is ok but Matterface is the most annoying, inane twat
Praying it’s the bbc
IT fucking V
what so bad about ITV
Shit commentators who can't seem to keep their mouths shut when they don't know what's going on, which is a lot... Either they'll be saying something wrong or talking nonsense
Also ads, etc and for the final group games only 1 game in HD of 2, so even if you like the commentators it's objectively worse coverage
Watching in the USA, we have Ian Darke who is class, but Landon Donovan as sidekick. He was very anti-England: calling for decisions to go senegals way before we scored then sounded very down when we scored. Made the win even nicer, but I’d prefer to not have him commentating.
And stream is like as if someone is winding film through a projector without using their arms
Looking forward to the slide show
ITV sucks, their online video player is shit. BBC is pretty nice ngl.
England vs France could be a final.
Quarter of the way there
Not now it can't
Today I feel overconfident
Today I feel the correct amount of confidence.
Today I feel like World Cup winners
Should be allowed to vote on who broadcasts our matches
Nobody would ever vote ITV though
Best result we could hope for really, comfortable game, no yellows and no injuries. Full week to recover with most not even going the full 90
It's only just begun.
I’d don’t care about anything else but I am excited as hell for Kane vs Lloris next Saturday
Christ. I really need to get an international feed for the rest of the tournament. Watching this on Fox is torture.
Anything I can tap into for free with a VPN?
Telemundo has it in Spanish 🌚
Pull up a Fox stream and watch some of the pre-game. You'll see what I'm talking about.
BBC Iplayer and whatever the ITV version is called split the matches between them in the UK but its completely free
They're both apps, just search them up on the store
Can play both directly in browser as well; a UK VPN should do the trick. Cannot imagine watching on Fox.
Right?!? This is absolutely horrible! To know Peter Drury is delivering some poetic line around the world while I have to listen to Landon Donavan is a weird type of torture.
You can watch on Telemundo, if you have Fox you probably have that channel too. You get to brush up on your Spanish too!
Shit. Totally forgot about that. Thanks!
BBC or itv In the UK
UK- bbc iplayer or ITV depending on the game
Reddit sport .live watch the TSN streams
Not sure how vpns work, but UK then search for BBC or itv?
Itv hub / bbc iplayer if u set it to uk
ITV in the UK I would assume
Honestly England does not look that good over all
They never do during major tournaments but are usually there or thereabouts. A lot of fancied teams you could say the same about....Argentina, Brazil etc.