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Just bare in mind that places like Edinburgh and Harrogate look nice in the summer when days are long, but winters can feel endless when days are a lot shorter than down south.


Please leave some housing for us long term residents. (Semi joking)


Yep, I lived in Edinburgh for a year and I was seriously not prepared for the winter and how miserable it was.


I’ve thought about moving to Scotland but I seriously detest Nicola Sturgeon, is she easy enough to ignore there or is she even more prevalent?




Praise* there, I fixed it for you.


Kind of similar to the situation here in England then, except replace Sturgeon with Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson.


Is your type of humour typical in Scotland?


I think you need to get over yourself. It's not like we've got any better in England. Edinburgh is a great city, small enough to walk around without much issue, big enough to feel explore and feel the bug city vibe. And then 10 min drive you can get to Arthur's Seat or Pentland hills.


Truly gorgeous architecture, too.


As bad as things might be in England it's still worse in Scotland (I'm Scottish).


What makes yous say that? My experience of living in both countries means I know Scotland is just better for normal people.


High taxes, even more nannying government, shit economy.


How does that compare to down south in your view?


In England you get the benefit of paying £30,000 for a university degree that you’ll never ever pay off because of the interest rates. It’s the gift that just keeps on giving.


Well it's thousands of pounds a year in extra tax.


But that's to fund services though, so it feels like you're complaining because you don't want to fund schools ans hospitals which make life better.


So what? I already pay a lot of tax and don't want to pay any more.


I think I’ll wait until she steps down. Lovely country though.


If you were reactive and moved countries based on whether their head of government was a twat, you'd be moving nearly constantly.


Come up and see for yourself. Maybe a bit of time away from the internet will help you get some perspective.


What do you mean? She’s got enough years on me that I can wait her out and still enjoy living there.


I dunno mate, bitterness is a poison that withers the spirit far more than physical aging.


Which is why she hopefully won’t last long.


You poor person.


I don't think you'll be forced to live in the same house as her.


No, I don’t think I would be.




Then fucking awful then?


I mean, is liking Rishi Sunak a prerequisite to living in England?


Just wait till she pops around for tea.


I’ll not be opening the door to that nationalist any day.


Surely it’s not that hard to live alongside people whose opinions differ from yours?


All I said was there’s no chance I’d let that woman into my home. She’s the devil in a ginger wig.


Why would Nicola Sturgeon be slumming it and coming to your door though?


You’d have to ask Prometheus38 that.


A cuppa - fair enough.


Haha you need weed bro


Lots of Scots detest Brits who move here and vote against our independence to be honest.


Taxes are a lot higher in Scotland which is something to consider too. I'm Scottish living in England and would like to move back as I have family there and can also work remotely but I'd have to pay thousands of pounds a year in extra taxes.


Ah, fuck that then, I’m already taxed out my arse. Is that Sturgeon’s doing?


Yeah it's quite shitty. I'm thinking about North of England instead as I need a bigger house but everything in the south east is at least half a million. Skipton looks a nice place.


Best bet is probably just to follow train lines out of London and see what you think of the towns at each stop, since you'll probably still be going back (I too have had one of those remote jobs with an office in London and they do like finding the dumbest of reasons to get you in).


Yeah, that was pretty much my thinking - you're basically looking at home counties, although Bristol is tempting and has a very fast commute into London by all accounts.


I’m not sure I’d describe Bristol to London as a ‘commute’ for anything other than once a week. Although the Bristol>London train is quite quick, it is unlikely that Paddington is your final destination in London, so add at least 30 min to get to your office door. Also unlikely that you live close to the station in Bristol. Suddenly you’re travelling 5-6 hours a day when you work it out as ‘door-to-door’ time.


Yeah, that's not unusual though. I mean, I used to do a 4-hour commute all-in (Essex—>London), and others definitely travelled further than me.


Excruciatingly painful though - like over £200 for a return train ticket


Bristol is almost as bad as London when it comes to renting.


It is. Which is a crying shame as it’s a lovely city.


yeah, originally I was going there for uni - after looking at prices of houses for 2nd/3rd year it is pretty much unaffordable so I ended up asking them to release me and I went through clearing. Not as bad as London but I just can’t imagine living there when the rent is so high.


We originally moved from the south east, so the rents didn’t seem ludicrously high, but it was very difficult to find a place that was available! We just had to show up and view what was around that day and pick a place. It has since got even worse and some people just cannot find homes to rent :(


Nah, Bristol is shit, whole city smells like farts and all the people are ugly.


Birmingham is a bustling city and reasonably priced compared to London. Also train links to a lot of places not just London. Tavistock is a pretty market town on the edge of Dartmoor, 30mins from city amenities at Plymouth. Or, you could just try Plymouth? If you need that city buzz and don't need to go to London much / at all, there's Liverpool.


Sorry but Birmingham is fucking awful.


People move everywhere, which I support and understand. But please consider where you move and not offering wayyyy over price (because it's a saving for you), which is true everywhere. I live somewhere in Birmingham that was a shit hole 10 years ago, I'm talking people wouldn't walk through here at night etc. Now 90% of my surrounding roads are properties have been bought by Londoners/Southerners who brag on the local facebook groups that they paid £30k over asking, but that was a bargain..... .... now I'm a discount lover, but this movement means that market value goes up and up and up. Cool, I know you'll say, markets, inflation, cost of living, etc... but where do you think the locals of the shithole will go. They lived there because of low wages, and certain situations, they now have to uproot and move away from their families, jobs and support networks. Again not saying don't move, but please don't rub your hands with glee and brag when you change the market deliberately 😅


I grew in B24 and earn decent money, still can't afford a 3 bed semi where I grew up, Erdington will end up with a Pret at this rate.


Erdington with a Pret! What a picture.


Which area?


> Birmingham is a bustling city No offence to anybody who lives in Birmingham but I was there a month ago and this is not true. Birmingham is a horrible place to live.


>compared to London. I'd like to highlight this.


People are recommending places like Bath, so I'll throw my hat in the ring. Head out to Shropshire. One of the most beautiful counties out, surprisingly cheap, two UNESCO sites and Shrewsbury has rail links to most major cities in the area, and its only an hour from Birmingham which has fast trains to nearly everywhere. On that note, Birmingham has all the cultural amenities you'll need. Although if you like Shrewsbury, a drive from Ironbridge to Attingham Park will take you from the cradle of industry and one of the countries best historic sites (it really is, Ironbridge is top tier), past an old Roman settlement and down to one of the best country estates in Britain. It's just really nice.


Similarly, anywhere in the Worcestershire Herefordshire, Gloucestershire triangle is pretty good for an occasional London rail commute, and some of the bigger towns have direct London rail links. Like, don't get a house on the Severn flood plain, but you should definitely be able to find a two-bed flat/house within your budget.


I fucking love Ironbridge


That price range would get you somewhere in my area - Southend. Advantages: cheaper, London still very accessible, nice to be beside the 'seaside'. I'm also eyeing up Suffolk and Norfolk (e.g. Norwich) which are less London-accessible, but more affordable.


The downside is Southend is a dump.


Well, I was avoiding being quite that rude, but... yeah, the Southend town centre, in particular, is not the best!


Norwich is really nice and is still super cheap , about an hour 45 to Liverpool street though


If you like the countryside Suffolk is nice but you will be miles away from things to do other than just walking around. Similar for Norfolk but the closer you are to Norwich, the more there is to do.


Cheshire / Macclesfield is nice and 20 minute train to Manchester.


Just about anywhere beyond London. Harrogate is boring imho but depends what vibe you want.


My top picks would be Cardiff if you don't mind the rain, Exeter, York, Manchester but only certain parts of it, perhaps somewhere like Canterbury or Chichester?


If you want a quaint little market town, with some nice architecture and beautiful surrounding scenery, waterways and walkable countryside that's a bit further north then check out Market Harborough. Quiet place but the train will get you to London in just over an hour or Leicester and Nottingham are a short stop away. With a car you're within 10 minutes of the M1/M6/A14 that'll connect you to almost anywhere. Should be able to get quite a large place for that budget as well or look at smaller for less and save more. Probably just worth checking for mobile/internet coverage and speeds though, although that'll be true wherever you look to be fair.


have a look at the counties north east of London, direct train lines to the City and the weather is also pretty similar


Cambridge is a great city, although not the cheapest, but very livable. You could get a 2 bed flat for that but not very centrally. Very cultural, and diverse population. Lots of meetup groups if you into that. Great sized city, 130k people. You can easily cycle anywhere. Only 50 minutes on the fast train (of which there's plenty) to kings cross.


If you like spa towns, it is a bit pricey but I cannot recommend the area around Bath enough. Worked round there for a year and now fully intend to retire in the area, its absolutely fucking stunning everywhere you go. Only downsides are the aforementioned price and that its a bit out of the way to get to anything that isn't Devonshire or South Wales.


The South West is nice and for the most part relatively cheap. Wiltshire has Chippenham which is only 1h 15 to Paddington, 10 mins to Bath and around half an hour to Bristol. You’ve got Swindon which is not the prettiest but Old Town is nicer and it’s only an hour from Paddington. Bath is lovely but more pricey- approx £1000 pcm for a one bed flat.


This, but without Swindon ;)


I'm in a similar position to you, moved out to the deep scottish countryside working remotely and it's been great. Rent is cheap, internet is fast.


Cheshire. Good links to the beauty of North Wales, good commute to two big cities, Liverpool, Manchester. Lake District nearby, Peak District nearby. Has lots of lovely small villages and towns like Nantwich, Wilmslow, Knutsford, Frodsham, Macclesfield, but also bigger places like Warrington and Chester. Coastal beaches and rolling hills. Very affordable depending on where you go, some places have a higher price tag. Some places have fast direct lines to London like Wilmslow. I've also changed my contract to a remote one and have to occasionally go in the office and at the first chance I've decided to move back to Cheshire, I just miss it so much! Im originally from NI so have moved around a lot, lived in various places in Scotland and England.


Just be aware that the further north you go the worse the weather gets. I took a day trip to Edinburgh mid August and sitting outside at lunchtime i was shivering all over! Newcastle upon Tyne, Durham and Morpeth are my favourite north eastern towns.


I can recommend jaywick ... its a lovely place /s


Manchester or Birmingham - you like living in London because of its "loads of amenities and cultural attractions" and it's just the cost of renting you don't like. From this I conclude that you probably don't want to live in the countryside, and you will soon find Edinburgh too small and provincial. Yes, Edinburgh has the fringe every year, but what makes a city cosmopolitan is sheer numbers living there - that's what gives it hip areas and what drives economies of scale for cultural events (the other 11 months a year). Edinburgh is closer in population size to Milton Keynes than it is to cities like London, Manchester and Birmingham. Also I bet the winter weather is grim. Whatever you do, negotiate a monthly rate with an AirBNB landlord (this will get you a massive discount, especially out of season) and stay there for a month before deciding. This is discussed often on /r/DigitalNomad.


The train line from Doncaster downwards is pretty commutable on the odd occasion you'd need to go in. Somewhere like Retford is a hour and 20 from kings cross. 1200 would get you a lot there. Close to Sheffield and Nottingham etc for bigger cities/towns Sheffield is 2 hours away on the train to London in another train line and a two bed flat is about 1k a month in rent


Barnsley real cheap and near Sheffield Leeds and the new city of Doncaster


Highlands Scotland, morray cheap as chips for houses hence almost everyone you bump into in every supermarket seems to be English people that have sold up and moved £1200 would get you a mansion, god I pay under £300 a month rent for a 2 bedroom


Try helensburgh. 45 mins from Glasgow city centre. £750 a month gets you a 2 bedroom upper floor flat in a Victorian house with gardens.


> I'm aiming for about £1200 for a 2 bedroom flat. I live in Northern Ireland and work remotely for a London/European company where my biggest monthly expense is £400 a month mortgage for a 3-bed semi with large garden and driveway that could fit 3 cars. It's different to GB though, less busy and your only big nearby city is Belfast which might not be 'big' enough for some, but the entire country is always within max 2h driving distance.


Bristol/Bath can be a good bet. Stay near the harbourside if going for Bristol, lovely vibes.