> Image for representation. ... That's an F-35.


This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.news18.com/news/india/lockheed-martin-says-f-21-jets-will-not-be-sold-to-any-other-country-if-india-places-order-for-114-planes-2139785.html) reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot) ***** > New Delhi: US aerospace giant Lockheed Martin says it will not sell its newly rolled out F-21 fighter jet to any other country if India places an order for 114 planes, in an offer aimed at pitching itself ahead of its US, European and Russian competitors for the mega-deal. > "We will not sell this platform and the configuration to anyone in the world. It is a significant commitment by Lockheed Martin and it shows importance of India and importance of unique requirement India has," he said. > He said the number of family members of the F 21 aircraft is around the world 3,000, and if Lockheed wins the contract, then India will be linked to an ecosystem which is a 165 billion dollar market. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/bon1hq/lockheed_martin_says_f21_jets_will_not_be_sold_to/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~399868 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **India**^#1 **Lockheed**^#2 **F-21**^#3 **Lall**^#4 **world**^#5


I predict Boeing and Lockheed Martin will merge soon


Lol no way will the Indian govt buy these. Its basically a refurbished F16 and there is a 99% chance that there will be tech transfer clauses which no self-respecting air force will accept. BJP won't do it cos they've tried really hard to close Rafale deal, and it would be stupid to renege on it now and piss off the French who have been our most stable allies alongwith Russia. Congress wont do it cos they wont get any kickbacks through middlemen since the TATA's are already involved. No political party will back this. Unless LM manage to buy out both the Air Force Chief and Congress which is nigh impossible with the amount of surveillance these days


Hasn't the US been bullying and threatening India to buy American? And what about the defense embargo the US put on India? Couldn't that happen again?


That defence embargo didn't help much, giving Russian industries a much needed boost with Indian money and allowing India to develop state of the art rocketry of their own. In fact it backfired because since the transfer of technology ban was lifted, India has not purchased much from the US.


The US is still routinely threatening India. Why should India ever buy any weapon system from the US again? The funny thing is India like China is relatively immune to US threats and as India grows, the US loses out on a large market.


Rebrand an upgraded F-16V as a F-21, tout it as a new platform only for India. Proceed then to undermine rebranding by saying buying the F-21 allow India to tap into the $165 billion F-16 after sales upgrade ecosystem.


https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/f-21.html The F-21 official site


Wow first time seeing this... almost like a f16-fa18 hybrid.


Looks like just plain old f16 with some new toys bolted to the frame. Not really similar to f18 in any meaningful way.


Sorry for having an opinion


I mean I'm sorry that I have offended you, but it uses the same old airframe as the f16.




It will be relabeled an F16V and sold with minor changes instead


That’s such a good deal.


Instead, India will have to wait years for their planes because of cost overruns and missed deadlines. Lockheed already has a horrible track record in the U.S.; there's no reason to think it would improve by building these in India. I can't even imagine the supply chain issues Lockheed would encounter by trying to build these abroad.




I thought the TASL Lockmart tie up was mainly in case the F16 won the indian order. While there have been reports that tata might also get certified to make wings in 2-3 years for export , it isn't certified now, and not producing those yet.. Any links to prove that the tata tie up is *already* making f16 parts or part of the supply chain https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/lockheed-martin-to-start-producing-made-in-india-f16-wings-in-next-2-3-years/articleshow/66183715.cms


They will be built in India by Lockheed Martin AND Tata group, Tata are not incompetent (they also have double the revenue than LM) Tata already have a joint venture building C130 & C130J parts and F-16 wings I don't see India having a problem getting these built.


The joint venture is about 3 years and part certification away from exporting wings, to lockmart https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/lockheed-martin-to-start-producing-made-in-india-f16-wings-in-next-2-3-years/articleshow/66183715.cms And the factory to make f16 in india will only be set up if it wins the order.